Jason Campbell

[Sarge]

He's scared to death to throw the ball more than 15 yards.

 

[bbgun]

He's scared to death to throw the ball more than 15 yards.

That's five yards farther than Brad can throw it. :

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

The change of system is BS too.

Quincy Carter had like 4 different systems in four different years too. He never got that excuse.

Romo got a new system with Garrett last year and almost threw 40 TDs.


Just another Campbell excuse.

 

[Bonecrusher#31]

The change of system is BS too.

Quincy Carter had like 4 different systems in four different years too. He never got that excuse.

Romo got a new system with Garrett last year and almost threw 40 TDs.


Just another Campbell excuse.

Couldn't agree more

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

The change of system is BS too.

Quincy Carter had like 4 different systems in four different years too. He never got that excuse.

Romo got a new system with Garrett last year and almost threw 40 TDs.


Just another Campbell excuse.

Not trying to be combative, but I don't agree with this. The basic terminology of Garrett vs. what Sparano ran the previous year are similar, plus Sparano stayed on the staff last year, which greatly helped the transition. Very big difference between that and Al Saunders' scheme being scrapped entirely to bring in Zorn and the WCO, plus drafting skill positions when they desperately needed help along the O-line.

Plus, comparing Romo to Campbell is a very bad comparison. Only an extreme Commander homer would think the two are anywhere close to being in the same league. Romo can lift a team to victory and Campbell is just not that guy.

As for Quincy, well, Quincy sucked. That was the reason no one cared to worry about excuses with him. Campbell is better than Quincy ever was. In Quincy's 4th season he had a 71.4 QB rating. Campbell is currently at 87.8 and is protecting the football, which is something Quincy could not do.

Campbell is not a top ten QB, nor will he ever be, but he can be a decent one if he can be brought along slowly in the same system over time. I just doubt that this scenario would occur in Washington and he will always fall short of his potential because of that.

 

[2much2soon]

Except for extreme cases (see Baltimore circa 2000) you have to have a QB that can win games for you.
Bus drivers practically never win SBs.
Going with a guy to not make mistakes and 'manage' games is just a losing proposition. Somewhere along the line it will bite you and end your season with a loss.
Get ready for the story of the rest of your career, Jason Campbell.

 

[Mansta54]

Jason Campbell sucks end of discussion.

And we have a winner....

 

[Extreme]

He's scared to death to throw the ball more than 15 yards.

No he's not, the coaches are scared to death to let him.

 

[Sonny#9]

No he's not, the coaches are scared to death to let him.

Well that and there isn't enough time for a receiver to get open downfield before Campbell gets pasted.

Really, this comparison to Carter is the fabrication of idiots. If you honestly believe Campbell and Carter are the same player, you are the Cowboys version of tr1. Their careers aren't close. Just stop it. You're an embarrassment to yourself and intelligent Cowboys fans.

 

[Hostile]

Well that and there isn't enough time for a receiver to get open downfield before Campbell gets pasted.

Really, this comparison to Carter is the fabrication of idiots. If you honestly believe Campbell and Carter are the same player, you are the Cowboys version of tr1. Their careers aren't close. Just stop it. You're an embarrassment to yourself and intelligent Cowboys fans.

Uh, he's a Commanders fan.

 

[Sonny#9]

Uh, he's a Commanders fan.

I know. It was more of a general comment to some of the posters in this thread. Should have had made that more clear...

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I don't know that I see a QB in the league right now that I'd take Quincy Carter over. Carter was terrible.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I don't know that I see a QB in the league right now that I'd take Quincy Carter over. Carter was terrible.

I'd take Q Carter > Jt o' Sullivan

 

[Vinnie2u]

Jason Campbell = Tony Banks

 

[Bob Sacamano]

whoever Jason Campbell reminds people of

it's not a good QB

speaking in general

 

[Aikbach]

Carter had the athletic tools but an intellect that would make Billy Carter blush.

 

[burmafrd]

And billy never blushed.

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

Well that and there isn't enough time for a receiver to get open downfield before Campbell gets pasted.

Really, this comparison to Carter is the fabrication of idiots. If you honestly believe Campbell and Carter are the same player, you are the Cowboys version of tr1. Their careers aren't close. Just stop it. You're an embarrassment to yourself and intelligent Cowboys fans.

Did anyone actually compare the ability of both QBs and say "hey Campbell is just like Carter!"

No, so I have no idea who you are trying to single out here.

The idea was that we never gave Carter the excuse of changing systems, because we knew he sucked. But Campbell ALWAYS gets the excuse of changing systems.

Let me repeat that.....

We never gave Carter the excuse of changing systems when he sucked, but we always hear that excuse handed out to Campbell. And now apparently, another theory that Skins fans have agreed to, his coaches hold him back from throwing the ball beyond 15 yards.

 

[Extreme]

And now apparently, another theory that Skins fans have agreed to, his coaches hold him back from throwing the ball beyond 15 yards.

They do, it's not a theory, because they have stated it publicly several times. They say things like "he's in a new system again, and taking time to learn it," "we want to make sure he works on his timing and routes first," "We'd like if he adjusted to the short slants before we let him throw deep." That's how we come up with these "theories" because the coaches spew it. It's not like we sit around all day making excuses for the guy.

Seriously, take a look at our long history of worthless QBS, and show me one example of when we ever latched on to a guy and made excuses for him. We say what we do about Campbell's potential, because he has proven that it's there, he is just unable to gain the confidence of the coaches, because we have top dollar receivers who can't hold on to a ball when it's thrown to theit hands.

All Skins fans hated Tony Banks, Heath Shuler, Mark Brunell, Jeff George, Danny Weurffel, etc. We aren't delirious, we just wish that we could use the talent we had instead of keeping it on a leash because our coaches have no balls.

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

Wouldnt that say something about him? I mean his coaches don't trust him to throw the ball beyond 15 yards, but hes a professional football player.

He must not be very good at it in order for them to not have trust in him.