Jason Garrett - Coach of the Year?

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If the Cowboys finished 12-4 making the playoffs Garrett would definitely be in the coach of the year mix when you consider a lot of preseason predictions had the Cowboys being the worst team in the league.
It took a while to find someone who said there's a chance. Kind of ironic it is you.

Yeah, I think he's clearly in the mix because no one had us better than 8-8, and several had us 3-13.
 

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note even close. Here are some:

Jim Caldwell - Lions
Mike Pettine - Browns
Chip Kelly - Eagles
Dolphins coach

Philly won the East last season with a 10-6 record and practically everyone had them winning the division again this season. If Philly does end up 12-4 I don't see Chip Kelly being named coach of the year. Not sure you'll find any team that had a worse offseason than the Cowboys. They lost 2 of their best defensive players to free agency and arguably their best defensive player was lost for the season in OTA's. They lost their top defensive pick for more than half the season due to an injury and they started the season with their top corner suspended. Plus Romo was coming off back surgery and still isn't healthy. Based off how bad everyone thought the Cowboys would be I definitely think Garrett has a shot at coach of the year if the Cowboys finish 12-4 and make the playoffs. That would far exceed the expectations everyone had for this team.
 

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12-4 winning the East - maybe, but detractors will say it took Garrett to get out of the way (hiring Linehan) and committing to the run (finally)
 

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Given the fact this team was ranked darn near dead last and counted out by virtually ALL national, and even some local, media... does JG deserve to be in the conversation for Coach of the Year? Is he deserving of the award? If the team makes the playoffs? If they win a playoff game? Get to SB and/or win it?

I'm curious what y'all think?
If they win the final 3 games then definitely YES.
 

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Seeing that it is a national award. A lot of writers are going to look at what they thought we were going to do and see 6-10 and that will influence. There are a lot of haters in this thread.

I have no doubt that we would need to perform better than the Browns and Dolphins to earn on merit but I am not exactly sold on them these last 4 games. 11-5 puts Garrett in the conversation. 12-4 sees him win it.
 

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It took a while to find someone who said there's a chance. Kind of ironic it is you.

Yeah, I think he's clearly in the mix because no one had us better than 8-8, and several had us 3-13.

Beat the Eagles in the rematch, win the division and get a playoff victory or two and he is in the conversation.
 

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Maybe. Most people said we'd be terrible. This board wasnt alone in that.
So yeah. Maybe
 

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Coach of the year for breaking 500.............LMAO..............is the bar really that low for Garrett?

It's got nothing to do with the bar. Before the season began most of the so called "experts" had the Cowboys at 5-11 and in last place. We have greatly exceeded those expectations hence the consideration. Ron Rivera of the Panthers won last year.

Coach of the Year Voting Results
Rank Coach Team Votes
1 Ron Rivera Carolina Panthers21.5
2 Andy Reid Kansas City Chiefs13.5
3 Bill Belichick New England Patriots7
4 Chip Kelly Philadelphia Eagles4
5 Pete Carroll Seattle Seahawks3
6 Bruce Arians Arizona Cardinals2
via NFL.com
 

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It took a while to find someone who said there's a chance. Kind of ironic it is you.

Yeah, I think he's clearly in the mix because no one had us better than 8-8, and several had us 3-13.

I'm all about giving honest opinions and based on how mediocre the Cowboys have been the past 4 seasons and how much the team had to overcome from the loss of several key defensive players during the offseason from a unit that was already the 3rd worst statistically in NFL history Garrett would definitely be in the mix. The Cowboys were a challenged team starting the season minus 4 of their best defensive players and having their top defensive pick on the shelf for half the season plus Romo wasn't healthy. Romo ended up being injured again and having to miss a game but despite all the challenges and doom and gloom predictions the Cowboys are in contention at 9-4.
 
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It took a while to find someone who said there's a chance. Kind of ironic it is you.

Yeah, I think he's clearly in the mix because no one had us better than 8-8, and several had us 3-13.

The issue isn't what we, as fans on this board thinks. The issue is what the guys who actually vote for Coach of the Year thinks.

Right or wrong, the narrative outside of Cowboys land is that Garrett is not a good coach. He was a laughing stock when he iced his own kicker. His sideline time management was awful. The narrative was that he's a puppet of Jerry and he keeps his job because Jerry can control him.

I don't believe this is true. But there are many out there to this day think it is. That narrative, even if it's completely wrong, isn't going to change just because we have 9 wins now instead of 8.

Something much more dramatic has to happen to change the narrative. Like a Super Bowl appearance.

My guess is that most national writers would probably put Garrett in the middle of the pack if they were to rank coaches in the league. Maybe he should be higher. Maybe not. But do these guys think he's Coach of the Year material? No way. Not today. Only if the team is still playing in February will the narrative on Garrett start to change, right or wrong.

On issues like this, Garrett gets penalized for having a loud mouth, microphone chasing GM and owner. That may be unfair, but that's the way it is.
 

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The issue isn't what we, as fans on this board thinks. The issue is what the guys who actually vote for Coach of the Year thinks.
Agreed. Where did those guys have the Cowboys and where are they?

Right or wrong, the narrative outside of Cowboys land is that Garrett is not a good coach. He was a laughing stock when he iced his own kicker. His sideline time management was awful. The narrative was that he's a puppet of Jerry and he keeps his job because Jerry can control him.
Actually that's the mindless narrative of the media and fans who surround the team. Around the NFL he's very respected.

I don't believe this is true. But there are many out there to this day think it is. That narrative, even if it's completely wrong, isn't going to change just because we have 9 wins now instead of 8.
No, it won't. But we have 3 games left. 11 or 12 wins could change it, and I think should. Coach of the year is about exceeding expectations.

Something much more dramatic has to happen to change the narrative. Like a Super Bowl appearance.
Based on what evidence? 2013 winner, Ron Rivera. 2012 winner, Bruce Arians (interim coach for Chuck Pagano as he had cancer). 2011 winner, Jim Harbaugh (went to the Super Bowl in 2012, not 2011). 2010 winner, Bill Belichick.. 2009 winner, Marvin Lewis. That's the last 5 years. One coach took his team to the Super Bowl. One out of 10.

My guess is that most national writers would probably put Garrett in the middle of the pack if they were to rank coaches in the league. Maybe he should be higher. Maybe not. But do these guys think he's Coach of the Year material? No way. Not today. Only if the team is still playing in February will the narrative on Garrett start to change, right or wrong.
Clearly, looking at the evidence I just posted, the writes do not agree with your criteria. They base it upon expectations and results.

On issues like this, Garrett gets penalized for having a loud mouth, microphone chasing GM and owner. That may be unfair, but that's the way it is.
Hmm. If that's true then he has bigger hurdles than anyone else, so he deserves more credit for this year's wns than other will. You're making the case for him now.
 

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At the half-way point, it was Arians, Garrett, and Kelly in the NFC, with the clear nod going to Arians right after they beat us. Now, I'd say that situation has probably changed a bit.

Pentine's a good option, too. I guess we'll see how the season plays out and go from there. If we win the NFCE at 11-5 or 12-4, Garrett would probably get some deserved consideration. Not here, of course, but across the league.
 

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If he wins out, I would consider it.

My only issue is that he's had literally a pro bowl offense for years now and we've finished 8-8 in all of those years. We are 9-7 right now and we added an All pro guard in Martin to the mix.

He hasn't exactly had the roster of the Dolphins, Browns, and Buffalo
 

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If we win the NFCE at 11-5 or 12-4, Garrett would probably get some deserved consideration. Not here, of course, but across the league.

Of course he'd get consideration here. He's already getting consideration here right now.
 

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At the half-way point, it was Arians, Garrett, and Kelly in the NFC, with the clear nod going to Arians right after they beat us. Now, I'd say that situation has probably changed a bit.

Pentine's a good option, too. I guess we'll see how the season plays out and go from there. If we win the NFCE at 11-5 or 12-4, Garrett would probably get some deserved consideration. Not here, of course, but across the league.



After a 6-1 start..............we have gone 3-3................need to finish strong and not limp to the finish line.
 
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