Jason Garrett Contract Extention

khiladi

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Wade Phillips record here was outstanding. Wade Phillips got Dallas first playoff win in 17 years. He had a top five defense in terms of scoring
And had three winning seasons out of four.

In his only losing season, Garrett’s offense had 19 TOs in the first seven games of the season Wade got fired and Garrett couldn’t run the ball. Garrett has absolute control over the offense then. Wade was a scapegoat for Garrett’s pathetic play-calling and lack of being able to properly manage the offense. Players like TO were actually blasting Garrett.

Nobody hated Wade on this team. Guys like Ratliff were monsters with Wade and had issues with the organization after Wade left.
 

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How many playoff-quality rosters did he actually miss with? 1, if you don’t count 2015 that had an otherwise good team but zero workable answer at QB2?

I am sure a lot of the head coach's around the league that just got fired...……..8 so far?...…….would say their rosters were not playoff caliber either. Too bad they dont get to use that excuse.

Point is that Jason Garrett is the longest tenured head coach in the NFL that has not made it to the SB. In fact, he has never advanced past the Divisional Round. Next week is an opportunity for him to change that. Lets see how he does, shall we.;)
 

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I am sure a lot of the head coach's around the league that just got fired...……..8 so far?...…….would say their rosters were not playoff caliber either. Too bad they dont get to use that excuse.

Point is that Jason Garrett is the longest tenured head coach in the NFL that has not made it to the SB. In fact, he has never advanced past the Divisional Round. Next week is an opportunity for him to change that. Lets see how he does, shall we.;)

We can take this lap one more time, if you care to.

First: Jason doesn’t need an excuse. He wasn’t fired, and his team’s still playing.

You’re probably right that some guys got fired when the issues were with the quality of players they were given. Mistakes get made all the time in the NFL. There are also coaches like Tomlin who have won Superbowls and who’s presiding over a dumpster fire in PIT right now. Getting to a Superbowl isn’t the validation of a coach you like to think it is. Sometimes lots of things just break right and a good job coaching one season is good enough.

As I always say, there are lots of things that can keep an organization from winning a world championship. Not all of them are the responsibility of the head coach. Dallas has a lot of issues tht come with the job. It’s maybe the toughest job in the NFL.

But the fans don’t like Garrett because the team hasn't won more, not because of actual issues with the job he’s done. They retrofit their criticism of the job he’s done based off of the organization’s success. At one point, he’d never get us over .500. Then it was he could t get us to the playoffs. Then he couldn’t win in the playoffs. Next it’ll be he hasn’t advanced far enough. At each step, more fans will come around, assuming the team keeps winning. But it doesn’t change the fact that the problems in Dallas under Garrett have never really been the coaching. And changing coaches any of these recent seasons wouldn’t have fixed anything.
 

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The funniest thing about these Garrett defenders is they keep ignoring the fact Dallas success has been a result of stripping Garrett of power.

His genius was supposedly his brilliant offensive mind which is why Jerry refused to get him help, when Wade was telling him he needed it.

Jerry wasted Romo’s prime with the clown only to admit later on they were training him and that they don’t want him touching the offense and he’s good with ambiguity. Jason was stripped of play calling duties.

Jerry always gushes about coordinators now. He’s fine with keeping Garrett as the figure-head.
 

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I am sure a lot of the head coach's around the league that just got fired...……..8 so far?...…….would say their rosters were not playoff caliber either. Too bad they dont get to use that excuse.

Point is that Jason Garrett is the longest tenured head coach in the NFL that has not made it to the SB. In fact, he has never advanced past the Divisional Round. Next week is an opportunity for him to change that. Lets see how he does, shall we.;)

Guys like Frank Reich and Sean McVay were what Jerry originally expected with Jason, guys that could call the plays while being HC. These guys are getting paid their worth. Now Garrett is a figure-head not going anywhere. Jerry has success with Linehan and Marinelli and now Richards, so he’ll always look at it from a coordinator perspective while protecting his pet car.

Zeke was still running against the Colts in a blow out. They didn’t take him out.

Beasley has ankle injury for weeks and Garrett had him in the meaningless game all last week and he was hobbling on the PI call.

Garrett is incompetent.
 

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All NFL players play hard for their HC , they are professionals .

3 playoff berths in 9 years is atrocious .

I think it is better to say players never quit on JG. At 3-5 a lot of coaches might have lost the team, yet this team never quits on JG.
 

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JG gets a five-year extension. As long as Linehan is gone.
 

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Wade Phillips record here was outstanding. Wade Phillips got Dallas first playoff win in 17 years. He had a top five defense in terms of scoring
And had three winning seasons out of four.

In his only losing season, Garrett’s offense had 19 TOs in the first seven games of the season Wade got fired and Garrett couldn’t run the ball. Garrett has absolute control over the offense then. Wade was a scapegoat for Garrett’s pathetic play-calling and lack of being able to properly manage the offense. Players like TO were actually blasting Garrett.

Nobody hated Wade on this team. Guys like Ratliff were monsters with Wade and had issues with the organization after Wade left.

Wade did it with the team Parcells built. When that started to fall apart, so did Wade's Cowboys.
 

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Wade did it with the team Parcells built. When that started to fall apart, so did Wade's Cowboys.

Parcells couldn’t stop a screen with that defense. The Lions and Kitna destroyed it and the Saints massacred it. We had the worst coverage LBs in the game in Bradie James and Akin Ayodele, had an aged Anthony Henry brought in before Wade got there and garbage safety play, let alone scrubs like Jacques Reeves. Roy Williams was done by then. That defense was so over-rated in so many respects.

If anything what Wade did with that defense was testimony to how good he is as a DC. Wade is the guy that started Ratliff and made him a NT in the 3-4. Parcells actually brought Ferguson for that role and he got injured.
 

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Parcells couldn’t stop a screen with that defense. The Lions and Kitna destroyed it and the Saints massacred it. We had the worst coverage LBs in the game in Bradie James and Akin Ayodele, had an aged Anthony Henry brought in before Wade got there and garbage safety play, let alone scrubs like Jacques Reeves. Roy Williams was done by then. That defense was so over-rated in so many respects.

If anything what Wade did with that defense was testimony to how good he is as a DC. Wade is the guy that started Ratliff and made him a NT in the 3-4.


But where did Wade get the players? Did he summon them from nothing? oh...wait, no he didn't.
 

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But where did Wade get the players? Did he summon them from nothing? oh...wait, no he didn't.

Maybe you didn’t understand...

Bradie James was mediocre with Parcells and a liability. Pat Watkins and Jacques Reeves..

Wade actually drafted Sean Lee. We brought in Ken Hamlin as a stop gap when Wade was here for the trash we trotted out there in the backfield and we brought in Keith Brooking because of LB trash like Ayodele who was slow as molasses and would constantly get exposed in passing downs.

That ‘talent’ you claim Wade won with is over-rates and it was better because Wade does that..
 

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Maybe you didn’t understand...

Bradie James was mediocre with Parcells and a liability. Pat Watkins and Jacques Reeves..

Wade actually drafted Sean Lee. He brought in Ken Hamlin as a stop gap for the trash we trotted out there in the backfield and also brought in Keith Brooking because of LB trash like Ayodele who was slow as molasses and would constantly get exposed in passing downs.

That ‘talent’ you claim Wade won with is because ofWade. He does that with defenses.

I never disputed that he was a great coordinator, but the record has shown that as a head coach, he's an utter failure. That's not just his tenure in Dallas, either.

He also inherited a lot of talent and didn't have to build from scratch, so don't give me that. Every team has player turnaround. And how much of bringing those guys in was Wade, and how much was it the scouting department? Are you privy to that nugget of info?
 

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I think it is better to say players never quit on JG. At 3-5 a lot of coaches might have lost the team, yet this team never quits on JG.

Maybe because Jones went out and got Cooper, meaning they got talented players.. hardly a Garrett thing..
 

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I never disputed that he was a great coordinator, but the record has shown that as a head coach, he's an utter failure. That's not just his tenure in Dallas, either.

He also inherited a lot of talent and didn't have to build from scratch, so don't give me that. Every team has player turnaround. And how much of bringing those guys in was Wade, and how much was it the scouting department? Are you privy to that nugget of info?

How is three winning seasons out of three and a half seasons, and the first playoff win in 17 years an utter failure and that too while being hamstrung with Garrett as OC all the while Jerry was aching to make JG his HC?

How do you know Parcells brought in those guys and not the scouts? You see how that works? Are you privy to that nugget of info?
 

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There is no question this team plays very hard for Jason Garrett. His regular season records so far
8-8, 8-8, 8-8, 12-4, 4-12, 13-3, 9,7,
10-6. Now add 2 playoff wins. Not bad compared to the constant coaching changes around the league. As it stands now, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Jerry extend him for something like 3yrs 7m per year (through 2022). I still want another coach, but it’s hard to justify a change now. Like it or not, Garrett’s here for the long haul folks.

Keeping him without an extension would be a good compromise between firing him and the extension.
 

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How is three winning seasons out of four, and the first playoff win in 17 years an utter failure and that too while being hamstrung with Garrett as OC?

His do you know Parcells brought in those guys and not the scouts? You see how that works?

His team utterly quit on him. That's all you need to know about his HCing ability.
 

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His team utterly quit on him. That's all you need to know about his HCing ability.

You mean the offense Garrett controlled with its 19 TOs in seven games was wade’s fault? How is that a team quitting on a coach and not simply a floundering OC who was getting worse and worse every year? Garrett calling a pass play with six seconds left in the half and 70 yards to go with a checkdown route was Wade’s Fault when it led to a fumble and TD return and the Commanders ended up only winning because the offense gifted them that TD in a low scoring game.

Getting blown out by the garbage Bears and getting destroyed by the Saints in 2012 wasn’t quitting on Garrett? The 2015 wasn’t quitting on Garrett? This 3-6 season before Jones went and got Cooper wasn’t quitting on Garrett?
 
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