Jason Garrett thread

[28 Joker]

Why didn't we go for it on their 30 when we needed a foot?

Please draft a kicker.

Please stop taking Felix Jones out of the game when he's going off.

Please replace RT and LG and start warming up Adams' replacement in a hurry.

I want young talent in and competition to unseat Adams.

Adams was playing well down the stretch, but he got hurt today. He isn't a spring chicken, anymore.

 

[Jimz31]

That may be the case. If it is, then it was likely Garrett's decision to not go for it on 4th and 1.

Who knows.

On ST issues, I think that WP has a little bit more input. But I could be wrong....

It really was a dumb decision....

 

[Cochese]

Lie. Lie.Lie.

There was a screen in the 4th quarter, we diddnt run playaction when we were gashing them with Felix, and i dont think we ever had a play devised to Austin or Williams on a slant.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Lie. Lie.Lie.

Screens are pointless when they are rushing 4. Im sure there was a slant or two but I don't remember any playaction.

He still did not do anything to move the pocket at all.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Screens are pointless when they are rushing 4. Im sure there was a slant or two but I don't remember any playaction.

He still did not do anything to move the pocket at all.

that wouldn't have mattered

vikes owned the edge

 

[SultanOfSix]

There was a screen in the 4th quarter, we diddnt run playaction when we were gashing them with Felix, and i dont think we ever had a play devised to Austin or Williams on a slant.

We had a slant called, or it was a hot read.

The one where Witten thought it was to him, and batted it in the air, but Austin still caught it.

We had one screen that didn't even get started I think. I don't think it had to do with the defensive pressure though. It just wasn't set up right or run correctly.

I didn't see one play action call attempt to go deep. Garrett rarely ever takes those chances anymore. He's so unlike Norval. The last time he did, it worked against NO.

 

[28 Joker]

You are smarter than this. Dont be a dope.

The OL gave nobody any chance today. If you cant block, you cant win. Romo had no chance.

Agreed. Direct your anger up front

I stated that Ellis, Henry, Williams, Owens, Pacrat , ect.. needed to go after 2008.

I was calling for Henry and Ellis and Williams to be gone after the 2007 season. They did it a year late and went 9-7 and missed the playoffs.

Oh, you can better believe changes are coming up front on that offensive line.

 

[baj1dallas]

I disagree

Not sure what he was supposed to do with absolutly no OL support.

I also dont think Wade should go. Defense did all they could given the support they had.

I don't agree either. I think Garrett improved as the year went by, yea he may have not called the greatest game today but I think he will learn from it and have a good season calling plays next year.

 

[brickman]

They started oyut fine moving the ball and then seemed to get away from it. I'm not a Garrett fan. He had some good gameplans. Unfortunately, he didn't come up big today.

 

[JustDezIt]

I don't agree either. I think Garrett improved as the year went by, yea he may have not called the greatest game today but I think he will learn from it and have a good season calling plays next year.

On the same note, why do we still have to deal with a learning curve at our OC position after all this time? I am frustrated, yes, but at the same time i think criticsm of garrett is valid as long as equal blame or more blame is put on the oline.

 

[peplaw06]

There was a screen in the 4th quarter, we diddnt run playaction when we were gashing them with Felix, and i dont think we ever had a play devised to Austin or Williams on a slant.

I remember at least 2 of each.

 

[Cochese]

I remember at least 2 of each.

document them, and i will admit im wrong.

the screen to felix in the 4th quarter doesnt count.

 

[peplaw06]

We had a slant called, or it was a hot read.

The one where Witten thought it was to him, and batted it in the air, but Austin still caught it.

We had one screen that didn't even get started I think. I don't think it had to do with the defensive pressure though. It just wasn't set up right or run correctly.

I didn't see one play action call attempt to go deep. Garrett rarely ever takes those chances anymore. He's so unlike Norval. The last time he did, it worked against NO.

There was another slant to Austin... I believe it was on a 3rd and 3 or 4, when one of the Vikes DL jumped over the LOS, but Gurode didn't catch it and snap. At least IIRC. I know that there was one on a 3rd and short that Austin was in between 3 guys and Romo threw it high. It may not have been when the DL jumped.

 

[Doomsday]

This game was similar to the GB game, we needed to keep feeding Felix Jones and use play action passes to take some shots down the field. How come every one under the sun could see that Felix Jones needed to get the ball more but JG? What was he saving him for today? Felix is a special player, it is pathetic to see this guy on the sidelines while MB3 is running east and west never turning it up field.

 

[Brooksey]

I remember at least 2 of each.

JG did not call a good game. When JG called a deep toss right to Barber..let me guess he thought everyone would bunch the middle for barber and he would fool them with the toss, right? What a Genius. What he failed to think about is if the end or a DB step up the field, it equals a loss of 7 yds and stalls out the drive. Bad Play call, Drive Killer. That was the nail in the coffin.

BTW- We needed at least 10 screens called today against that front four.

 

[theogt]

There was another slant to Austin... I believe it was on a 3rd and 3 or 4, when one of the Vikes DL jumped over the LOS, but Gurode didn't catch it and snap. At least IIRC. I know that there was one on a 3rd and short that Austin was in between 3 guys and Romo threw it high. It may not have been when the DL jumped.

That wasn't a slant. That said, Witten was wide open for the first there.

 

[8FOR!3]

I'm not blaming the game on Garrett, but his play calling is suspect. He's definitely the Vince Russo of football.

 

[fanfromvirginia]

You can do something. Dont just keep running the draw when they are hitting runners in the backfield.

Yes, by all means, call plays that require no blocking. That would have helped a lot.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Alot of the blame should be shouldered on Jason Garrett. If they replace him this year I'd be very happy.

This isn't the first time that our Oline got demolished. It happened against the Giants in 2007. It also happened against Denver and Green Bay this year. All the Vikings had to do was watch film against Denver and Green Bay. Then make sure the Dline isn't fooled by our bread and butter run play which is the delayed draw.

Garrett never changed his play calling. He kept doing those delayed draws. He also kept putting Barber in there when Jones was slicing up the D. And the worst part is why are we pitching the ball out to Barber on the outside?

I can't also imagine why we weren't using alot of quick passes and 3 step drops or even call a screen to Felix?

Garrett is very much overrated. He garnishes alot of praise because he has Romo. But put him in another offense he you will see how lousy of a off coordinator he really is.

He never adjusts, never changes his playcalilng. You want proof? Rewatch this years Denver and Green bay game. Its the same exact blueprint that the Vikings used against us.

 

[peplaw06]

document them, and i will admit im wrong.

the screen to felix in the 4th quarter doesnt count.

PLAYACTION to Felix on 1st and 10 at 11:50 of 1st quarter.

Swing pass to Felix on 1st and 10 at 8:15 of 1st quarter. Not a screen, but it got a back involved out in a pass play. And it was for a 1st down.

SLANT to Austin on 3rd and 9 at 6:30 of 1st quarter. Pass tipped by Witten, but caught by Austin, and intended for Austin.

PLAYACTION to Barber on 1st and 10 at 2:03 of 1st quarter, AND they set up a backside SCREEN to Bennett that was thrown at his feet... Bennett was covered.

Austin ran a SLANT stop route on 2nd and Goal at 12:54 of the 2nd quarter. Romo sacked before he got the ball out.

The play where Allen sacked Romo and forced the fumble was a DRAWACTION play on 2nd and 11 at 6:35 of the 2nd quarter.

At this point, down 17-3, Fox shows a graphic that on 17 Romo dropbacks, he had been sacked 3 times and hit 8 times.

SLANT to Austin on 3rd and 3 at 2:00 of the 2nd quarter. The DL over Colombo jumped offsides, Gurode didn't snap it, Romo throws high. Austin got his hands on it, but was in the middle of 4 guys.

Swing pass to Felix on 1st and 10 at 2:30 of the 3rd quarter. Makes 4 yards out of nothing.

And you've already acknowledged the SCREEN to Felix in the 4th quarter. Not real sure if you're talking about the one at 13:30 of the quarter on 1st and 10 that drew the ineligible down field flag. But there it is.

What do I win?