Jason Garrett vs Dave Campo

[Hook'em#11]

I don't think Campo would've done any worse than Garrett. The Garrett teams were loaded with talent at some point IMO..

Campo had nothing close to that. What I did like about the Campo years was that the team played balls out. Until the end.

 

[Coy]

The difference between those two is Romo. Nothing more.

You can add Dez, Witten and Ware in their prime as well.

 

[Coy]

Really.......wow.........tons of talent on those teams Campo had

uarterbacks

• 17 Quincy Carter
• 7 Chad Hutchinson
• 5 Clint Stoerner

Running Backs

• 29 Woodrow Dantzler KR
• 42 Troy Hambrick
• 35 Jason McKie FB
• 22 Emmitt Smith
• 44 Robert Thomas FB
• 32 Michael Wiley

Wide Receivers

• 88 Antonio Bryant
• 84 Joey Galloway
• 87 Ken-Yon Rambo
• 85 Darnay Scott
• 80 Reggie Swinton PR
• 89 Randal Williams

Tight Ends

• 86 Mike Lucky
• 82 Tony McGee
• 83 James Whalen

Offensive Linemen

• 76 Flozell Adams T
• 70 Javier Collins T
• 65 Andre Gurode G/C
• 68 Matt Lehr C/G
• 77 Solomon Page T
• 69 Ross Tucker G
• 78 Kurt Vollers T
• 71 Tyson Walter C

Defensive Linemen

• 96 Ebenezer Ekuban DE
• 98 Greg Ellis DE
• 92 Demetric Evans DE
• 97 La'Roi Glover DT
• 94 Michael Myers DT
• 60 John Nix DT
• 75 Brandon Noble DT
• 64 Daleroy Stewart DT
• 95 Colston Weatherington DE
• 93 Peppi Zellner DE

Linebackers

• 52 Dexter Coakley OLB
• 51 Kevin Hardy OLB
• 57 Louis Mackey MLB
• 59 Dat Nguyen MLB
• 55 Markus Steele OLB

Defensive Backs

• 40 Keith Davis SS
• 24 Tony Dixon SS
• 27 Mario Edwards CB
• 23 Dwayne Goodrich CB
• 47 Pete Hunter CB
• 25 Jermaine Jones CB
• 20 Derek Ross CB
• 21 Lynn Scott FS
• 31 Roy Williams FS

Special Teams

• 3 Billy Cundiff K
• 58 Jeff Grau LS
• 10 Filip Filipović P

Reserve Lists

• 73 Larry Allen G (IR)
• 50 Jamal Brooks ILB (IR)
• 67 Dan Collins G (IR)
• 81 Raghib Ismail WR (IR)
• 15 Anthony Lucas WR (IR)
• 34 Jamar Martin FB (IR)
• 79 Marques McFadden G/T (IR)
• 66 Jeremy McKinney G (NF-Inj.)
• 48 Jeff Robinson TE/LS (IR)
• 45 Bob Slowikowski TE (IR)
• 28 Darren Woodson SS (IR)

Rookies in italics
53 Active, 11 Inactive

Give this roster to Garrett and he could get you about 3 wins.

 

[Ratmatt]

I don't think that anyone could argue that Dave Campo couldn't have gotten us 8-8 records with this talent.
Thats sad

I don't know what Campo would do with this team,probably the same as Garrett,but Garrett with out a doubt has better talent than Campo did.

 

[Ratmatt]

Give this roster to Garrett and he could get you about 3 wins.

It's amazing how Parcells got 10 wins out of that roster.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I don't think that anyone could argue that Dave Campo couldn't have gotten us 8-8 records with this talent.
Thats sad

But were you entertained?

 

[Coy]

It's amazing how Parcells got 10 wins out of that roster.

Amazing but that's what a good (in that case great) HC does for his team, you think a guy like Parcells or any other good HC would have a 24-24 record + no playoffs with this roster for the past 3 years.

 

[slomoxn]

You guys remember the days when bill parcells was a no good east coast hack robbing Jerry. I mean he went 9-7 two years in a row and didn't win a superbowl. I mean he fixed the entire organization, franchise qb, two running backs, franchise pass rusher, franchise left tackle, good along both lines....young team...

But that guy had to go, he was a conservative no good poor game manager who just hires people from New Jersey. Everyone wanted that guy fired.

Now we debate who is worse Jerry or Garrett and there are a bunch of people who think they are doing a good job and are snakebitten.

Ahh the good ol days. We were watching a guy building a Super Bowl contender and nit picking details because the big picture was taken care of, now the goal is to just win the east and keep the stadium full.

Before we know it, we will be arguing over the next installation of chad Hutchinson and Quincy carter.

He did a good job but was far from building a Super Bowl contender. He wasn't going to be here that long and also had his own draft busts. What he did was keep Jerry out of his way and put some of the pieces together in which this team could have built a firm foundation for a strong future. Provided they had the right staff to coach the them and save the QB from himself.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

Really.......wow.........tons of talent on those teams Campo had

And the had coach is partially responsible for assembling talent. He's responsible for having the team prepared to play with whatever talent he has. Anyone who watched those Campo teams and concluded they were well prepared to play doesn't know football. Campo absolutely was the worst Cowboys HC ever, as is reflected by his record.

 

[Risen Star]

If this the thread where we pretend the roster is really, really talented?

 

[Alexander]

The difference between those two is Romo. Nothing more.

And Murray. And Bryant. And Lee. And Bailey. I could go on.

But in terms of the quality of the game management, they are pretty close.

Remember, those Campo teams "battled" as well, losing close games also.

 

[sbark]

But...Garrett pushes for the RKG"s.........those type of guys that self correct mistakes, work and study to avoid mistakes, change things up to improve, guys that wont throw teammates under the bus..............

hmmmm.....does Garrett do any of those things?............is Garrett himself a RKG?..........and yet he asks it of everyone else around him. Does a Ivy League diploma exempt one from having to be a RKG?

 

[The Natural]

Defensive Backs

• 40 Keith Davis SS
• 24 Tony Dixon SS
• 27 Mario Edwards CB
• 23 Dwayne Goodrich CB
• 47 Pete Hunter CB
• 25 Jermaine Jones CB
• 20 Derek Ross CB
• 21 Lynn Scott FS
• 31 Roy Williams FS

that secondary is comedy

 

[visionary]

Forget wins, playing hard is what really counts.

and, my personal favorite..... "the team hasnt quit on him yet"

that is the new coaching criteria for the dallas cowboys

 

[Alexander]

But...Garrett pushes for the RKG"s.........those type of guys that self correct mistakes, work and study to avoid mistakes, change things up to improve, guys that wont throw teammates under the bus..............

hmmmm.....does Garrett do any of those things?............is Garrett himself a RKG?..........and yet he asks it of everyone else around him. Does a Ivy League diploma exempt one from having to be a RKG?

The biggest difference I see between Garrett and Campo is presentation. Garrett looks and acts more like a head coach at times. Garrett gives the impression of being harder and more professional. But I guess not allowing players to pull his pants down helps that.

 

[sbark]

The biggest difference I see between Garrett and Campo is presentation. Garrett looks and acts more like a head coach at times. Garrett gives the impression of being harder and more professional. But I guess not allowing players to pull his pants down helps that.

and yet the "presentation" that millions see the most...........are critical game mngt situations where Garrett figureativly speaking-----drops his own pants for all to see

 

[Eddie]

I don't know that. Some of those 5-11 teams could have won a few more games if the breaks went our way. I remember our kicker cost us a few games too. I know he didn't have half the talent that Garrett's had over the years. I think one year he had about 5 or 6 different starting QBs and he still got 5 wins out of them.

Those 5-11 teams would have won a few more games if they had a reasonable QB.

Those Defenses were very good. Bill Parcells took one of those 5-11 teams and turned it into a 10-6 overnight.

 

[Don Corleone]

If The Poodle had this offense, he would have 10 wins. His defenses were good in the 5-11 years. The Poodle was a horrible game manager, and often blundered late in the games or just before the half. Sound familiar?

Conversely, Garrett would be 2-14 with The Poodle's team, as his in game management would cost at least 3 games in a season.

 

[theebs]

He did a good job but was far from building a Super Bowl contender. He wasn't going to be here that long and also had his own draft busts. What he did was keep Jerry out of his way and put some of the pieces together in which this team could have built a firm foundation for a strong future. Provided they had the right staff to coach the them and save the QB from himself.

It was a Super Bowl contender without question. The only thing missing was the qb and he got that in oct of 06.

Had we had parcells running things in 07 and 08 it would have been mighty different.

Did he have draft misses? Of course, everyone does but they were misses within his system, they were not grab bag maybe this guy will work type of things. He had a set of rules to go by and he dictated it to the scouts and they all knew what they were looking for.

It was not an accident in 2006 our defensive line was Marcus spears, Chris canty, Jason ferguson, jay Ratliff, Stephen Bowen, Jason hatcher. They were all within the mold. Same thing at lb.

The man had a plan and stuck to it, if we got two more years out of him who knows what would have happened.

We have not had a plan since. I thought Garrett had one in 2011 but I was terribly wrong, what is going on is Jerry just running drafts again fifteen minutes before the thing starts and we get the results we have.

There have been very few sound decisions by this organization in recent years and it shows every week.

 

[Risen Star]

It was a Super Bowl contender without question. The only thing missing was the qb and he got that in oct of 06.

Had we had parcells running things in 07 and 08 it would have been mighty different.

The GM, if he had the slightest clue as to what he's doing, should have recognized that and either done whatever it took to keep Parcells around or brought in another established head coach with the same authority.

Instead he brought his case of puppets back out.