Jason Garrett's Strengths

Idgit said:
He’s intelligent, organized, consistent, and able to dampen the circus atmosphere Jerry insists on cultivating. He develops players well. He keeps the team focused, and they play hard.

Most of what he does poorly is massively exaggerated by upset fans. They hated his play calling, though his offenses were generally in the top ten in the league in terms of production/series. They are his press conferences, though fail to understand he does it for a very good reason. They hate his clapping...never understood why that was such an issue. Really, what they’re unhappy about is the team not going on a playoff run, and when they don’t like that result, the easiest person to blame is the coach. Personally, I don’t think he’s miss d the playoffs with a playoff caliber team until last season.
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Develops who exactly? Our drafting, scouting and developing is pretty poor and has been for awhile.

And lmao. He has had a playoff caliber team every single season of his tenure here. He played in the NFC East championship game 3 years straight and lost all 3. How is that not playoff caliber? Win one single game and you win the East. You are making tons of excuses for his poor ability to coach. Romo saved him from being a 3 win coach year in and year out. The real Jason Garrett and this staff showed their ugly head in 2015. One single player goes down and we are a 4 win team. Win 2 games out of our last 14.

He has no ability to adjust in game to what is going on. His scheme is a laughing joke around the league. If you even want to call it a scheme. He's so bad, they pretty much stripped him of any decision making on game days. Because he was that bad at OC. Problem is, it's still his terrible offense and he has input during the week. It's just another guy calling plays from that terrible scheme in place.
 
Blackspider214 said:
Develops who exactly? Our drafting, scouting and developing is pretty poor and has been for awhile.

And lmao. He has had a playoff caliber team every single season of his tenure here. He played in the NFC East championship game 3 years straight and lost all 3. How is that not playoff caliber? Win one single game and you win the East. You are making tons of excuses for his poor ability to coach. Romo saved him from being a 3 win coach year in and year out. The real Jason Garrett and this staff showed their ugly head in 2015. One single player goes down and we are a 4 win team. Win 2 games out of our last 14.

He has no ability to adjust in game to what is going on. His scheme is a laughing joke around the league. If you even want to call it a scheme. He's so bad, they pretty much stripped him of any decision making on game days. Because he was that bad at OC. Problem is, it's still his terrible offense and he has input during the week. It's just another guy calling plays from that terrible scheme in place.
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Our drafting/scouting/developing has been among the best in the league under Garrett, actually. At least most attempts to score drafts that I've seen, once adjusted for picks, have us in the top 5 or so, league wide. But this is exactly the sort of stuff we see from fans all the time, so I'm glad you pointed it out.

Here are a couple of attempt to quantify the impact of drafting and developing. They each use slightly different methodology.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chriss...-the-best-and-worst-at-drafting/#6ebb0c575dcd (5th overall)

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-ranking-all-32-nfl-teams-five-year-success-by-draft-class (1st overall)

https://nypost.com/2017/04/22/studying-5-years-of-nfl-drafts-to-find-best-worst-teams-at-picking/ (3rd overall)

Good luck making a convincing argument that the 2011-13 teams were playoff teams. Go back and look at those rosters. I know it's easier to dislike a guy if you won't give him credit for overdelivering with bad teams, but those .500 teams had .500 talent.

The scheme argument I always counter by pointing out that his offenses have typically been in the top ten, if not top 5 in the league in terms of production per series, which is how you ought to look at the effectiveness of an offense. I don't understand how it can simultaneously be among the most effective and still be a laughing joke, but I'm sure this time somebody will get to the bottom of that for me.
 
seriously, I can't think of anything of his as a strength, from refusing to go on defense to start a game all the way to those unwatchable press conferences.
 
BaybeeJay said:
Losing big leads, and general lack of in-game reassessment manifests in the minds of the fans as all the stuff you mentioned.
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Maybe. Those certainly sound like the sorts of things we hear about. The losing big games I put on the defense--which lacks talent as which has been the primary reason we win a lot of games but fall short against good teams year in and year out. Some of that is on Garrett, as his teams haven't made smart choices re: adding defensive talent with picks like Gregory and Jaylon and with wasting a top 5 pick overall on a RB. But that's more an error in putting the team together overall than it is a gameday coaching thing.

Lack of in-game assessments or not, we've won more games than most teams in the Garrett era, with no abundance of picks and a difficult salary cap most of that time, and he took over a 1-7 franchise in a tail spin to start with, so he and his staff are outpacing somebody. Well, a lot of somebodies. If we were willing to be reasonable in an assessment of him, he's done a good job, but not good enough. He's made some critical mistakes in assembling teams, but he generally drafts well and gets the team to play hard. He might not be the guy to get it all done, but you don't get 12 and 13 win seasons by accident, and you don't get them if your HC is marginalized, which is a common fantasy of Cowboys fans who seem to think we magically get talent and it all gets mismanaged by an inept staff on game days.
 
Idgit said:
Our drafting/scouting/developing has been among the best in the league under Garrett, actually. At least most attempts to score drafts that I've seen, once adjusted for picks, have us in the top 5 or so, league wide. But this is exactly the sort of stuff we see from fans all the time, so I'm glad you pointed it out.

Here are a couple of attempt to quantify the impact of drafting and developing. They each use slightly different methodology.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chriss...-the-best-and-worst-at-drafting/#6ebb0c575dcd (5th overall)

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-ranking-all-32-nfl-teams-five-year-success-by-draft-class (1st overall)

https://nypost.com/2017/04/22/studying-5-years-of-nfl-drafts-to-find-best-worst-teams-at-picking/ (3rd overall)

Good luck making a convincing argument that the 2011-13 teams were playoff teams. Go back and look at those rosters. I know it's easier to dislike a guy if you won't give him credit for overdelivering with bad teams, but those .500 teams had .500 talent.

The scheme argument I always counter by pointing out that his offenses have typically been in the top ten, if not top 5 in the league in terms of production per series, which is how you ought to look at the effectiveness of an offense. I don't understand how it can simultaneously be among the most effective and still be a laughing joke, but I'm sure this time somebody will get to the bottom of that for me.
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If he won any of those last games, we would've become playoff teams. But since he choked 3 years in a row, there's no chance we were playoff teams?:confused: Win or go home. We went home 3 years in a row. He had a franchise QB in Romo and Demarcus Ware/Spencer on D.
 
ondaedg said:
Yes you read the title correctly. I am sincerely trying to see the positives of JG as our head coach. What competitive advantage do you feel he brings to the organization?
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Good at convincing Jerry he can win without much to back him up. It's a strength to be able to have a billionaire in the palm of your hand without anything more than words.
 
BigStar said:
If he won any of those last games, we would've become playoff teams. But since he choked 3 years in a row, there's no chance we were playoff teams?:confused: Win or go home. We went home 3 years in a row. He had a franchise QB in Romo and Demarcus Ware on D.
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Yeah, I'm aware of who was on the teams, I mean, beyond those two guys. Which is why, when you look at the rest of the roster, it ought to be pretty obvious that only actual homers thought they were shoe-ins for the post season. They had .500 talent, and got .500 results.
 
With the title of this thread being Jason Garrett’s Strenghts, I’m surprised this thread made it past a few posts.
 
Idgit said:
He’s intelligent, organized, consistent, and able to dampen the circus atmosphere Jerry insists on cultivating. He develops players well. He keeps the team focused, and they play hard.

Most of what he does poorly is massively exaggerated by upset fans. They hated his play calling, though his offenses were generally in the top ten in the league in terms of production/series. They are his press conferences, though fail to understand he does it for a very good reason. They hate his clapping...never understood why that was such an issue. Really, what they’re unhappy about is the team not going on a playoff run, and when they don’t like that result, the easiest person to blame is the coach. Personally, I don’t think he’s miss d the playoffs with a playoff caliber team until last season.
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fredp22 said:
a good season doesnt mean he'll become a better coach. In fact he's had a 13-3 season. all a good season does is extend his contract. A bad season will force Stephen to push Jerry into a new coach. I'd rather sit through 1 bad season than another 5 or 6 with him as HC
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How bad do you want it? 4-12 didn't get it done and he rebounded and got CotY just to piss us off.

I could be wrong but the main reason I think they kept the coordinators was as sacrifices if this season goes down. I still think Garrett is family to them. His wife and Booger's daughter are best friends.
 
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