Javonte or Pickens?

While I know it's a "fun" game, for me I wouldn't re-sign either right now.

We need to see how Javonte holds up over a full season with him after severely tearing his ACL and other ligaments during the 2022 season that took him longer to recover from than normal ACL tears.

Even beyond that, he's never had to carry the load like he is in Dallas. In looking at his stats, he carried it 217 times (his most ever in a season) in 2023 and 139 times in 2024.

So far in 5 games, he's carried the ball 79 times which puts him on pace for 269 carries this season if he plays every game.

If he finishes the season like he started the season, then I can easily see the Cowboys bringing him back with a 2 or 3 year contract for a reasonable (not overpaid) amount.

As for Pickens, he has definitely stepped up since Lamb's injury and he's definitely showing he can be a solid #2 receiver to Lamb and step-in #1 receiver when Lamb is out.

What remains to be seen is how he will handle adversity as the season progresses whether that be few catches in games the Cowboys lose or protracted low-target games where he feels his 2026 contract potential is being impacted.

Like Javonte, if Pickens continues playing at the level he is and continues being a team player and avoiding drama, I can see the Cowboys making him a solid offer as well after the season.
 
Stak78 said:
If we can only bring one back next year?
Who would you pick?
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I don't think we have a choice man you guys really think George Pickens with that agent with all the things he said do you not listen to the post game press conferences him talking about showcasing his skills to maximize his value that is exact words over and over..

Do realize what that means he wants to be paid like a number one wide receiver we already have that guy we cannot pay him like a number one wide receiver this is not going to work out well for you guys who believe he's going to stay here to be the WR2..

Who wants WR1 money he wants to be the guy he's using the Dallas Cowboys to get there but he doesn't realize that Jerry will play hardball he will franchise tag him but he will not try to keep him he will seek a trade to get maximum value but then Jerry controls the trade...

Either way we would get a comp pick probably a 3rd rounder I don't know if they go that high but it probably would get our 3rd rounder back anyway so it's a 1 year rental you guys are delusional if you think he wants to be Under CD lamb forever.

By My UP Williams If he's still playing like this at the buy II may offer him 3years 24M.. I should do it I mean I don't know how much Williams wants but with his injury concerns and all that I mean that's pretty good damn payday for a guy who was almost out of the league...
 
Reality said:
While I know it's a "fun" game, for me I wouldn't re-sign either right now.

We need to see how Javonte holds up over a full season with him after severely tearing his ACL and other ligaments during the 2022 season that took him longer to recover from than normal ACL tears.

Even beyond that, he's never had to carry the load like he is in Dallas. In looking at his stats, he carried it 217 times (his most ever in a season) in 2023 and 139 times in 2024.

So far in 5 games, he's carried the ball 79 times which puts him on pace for 269 carries this season if he plays every game.

If he finishes the season like he started the season, then I can easily see the Cowboys bringing him back with a 2 or 3 year contract for a reasonable (not overpaid) amount.

As for Pickens, he has definitely stepped up since Lamb's injury and he's definitely showing he can be a solid #2 receiver to Lamb and step-in #1 receiver when Lamb is out.

What remains to be seen is how he will handle adversity as the season progresses whether that be few catches in games the Cowboys lose or protracted low-target games where he feels his 2026 contract potential is being impacted.

Like Javonte, if Pickens continues playing at the level he is and continues being a team player and avoiding drama, I can see the Cowboys making him a solid offer as well after the season.
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The same time I hate to break it to you and anybody else who hasn't thought about this listen to his postgame press conferences all of them he's used these words i'm glad I can be here as a cowboy showcasing my skills maximizing my value you know who his agent is right parsons maximized his value by getting out of Dallas..
What George is gonna want is to be the number one wide receiver who gets the number one wide receiver money therefore we almost have zero control on who we're choosing here..

Just don't see this guy wanting to be behind CD lamb Not just about money he wants to be the guy and that's not Dallas Fall or Jerrys fault we're going to get him as a one year rental but the only thing we can do is franchise tag him so we can maximize his trade value and then let him go so he's not a headache I am not going through that again this offseason with this agent...

Just don't believe he'd even be happy with T Higgins money he just doesn't seem like that guy he really is thinking about a real long term deal at a really big bag..
 
ThatJerryKid said:
It better be both. That’s why we left Parsons go.
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See you use words like better and you don't even know the business that's not under Jerryd control all the time we didn't let Parsons go parsons forced his way out of here why do you keep acting like Jerry didn't offer him good money he did They didn't like the process they took off for more money that's just greed that's just the way it went they did not allow Parsons to go parsons made it uncomfortable and annoying and he kept raising the bar on the money and the years he wanted less years more guaranteed money and bigger money and he got it somewhere else...

At point Jerry didn't want to play the game anymore yes Jerry made it a circus as well but Parsons made the choice to leave here he was offered between 40 and $42 million and turned it down that's a fact..

The same agent represents George Pickens and we're not gonna be able to keep him because of this he's gonna want a number one money he's gonna wanna be a number one and he's not gonna be under CD lamb he already said it in post press conferences listen really close he used the words I'm glad I have a place like Dallas to showcase my skills and maximize my value...

Do know what that means right he's using Dallas to get his bag he doesn't want to be under CD lamb he literally wants number one money and there's no way your expectations is for Dallas to pay him number one money while he's behind CD lamb.

Lastly and I know you don't want to hear this the draft picks are still coming those are why we traded Parsons we got Clark we got two draft picks and we've already used money to sign who bland and Ferguson and Hunter already aubrey's probably next Didn't they just extend Tyler Smith I mean you act like they have an endless amount of money because of this trade no they signed these guys early because they knew they had the money.

The rest of it is the draft picks that's it that's what this got us not an endless amount of contracts that you think is endless it's not the money is not open ended..

.. Is it me or did you miss all those signings after Parsons left to go on top of all the other signings they had earlier in the year George Pickens will control his narrative and I already hearing it in his voice he wants to be number one he can't do that here it's not possible are you saying we should trade CD lamb for him hell no..
 
BleedSilverandBlue said:
Williams also won't command top money. You can probably have him for $5-$8 mil a year.

I'd sign him to 3 years at $24 million in a heart beat. He's only 25 years old.
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That's as far as I go though but that would be good for both sides I don't see why he don't seem like a guy who's greedy... But that's the thing people keep missing all these clues george Pickens wants to be a number one wide receiver he came to Dallas to showcase his skills and up his value and he's going to use that with his agent who we all know very well to go out and find that job somewhere else because it isn't here he can't be a number one receiver with number one money here I just don't see this guy wanting to be WR 2 even for T Higgins money I just don't see it..

He's using Dallas and if Jerry's smart he'll franchise tag him and then let him seek trades that way we can control the narrative of where he goes and how much we get for him that works for both of us he'll get what he wants in the end but I'm not going through another offseason fighting David Eagle maniacal whatever his last name is..

He literally came to Dallas to use Dallas to get maximum money for wherever he goes to that just seems like a done deal to me..
 
blueblood70 said:
The same time I hate to break it to you and anybody else who hasn't thought about this listen to his postgame press conferences all of them he's used these words i'm glad I can be here as a cowboy showcasing my skills maximizing my value you know who his agent is right parsons maximized his value by getting out of Dallas..
What George is gonna want is to be the number one wide receiver who gets the number one wide receiver money therefore we almost have zero control on who we're choosing here..

Just don't see this guy wanting to be behind CD lamb Not just about money he wants to be the guy and that's not Dallas Fall or Jerrys fault we're going to get him as a one year rental but the only thing we can do is franchise tag him so we can maximize his trade value and then let him go so he's not a headache I am not going through that again this offseason with this agent...

Just don't believe he'd even be happy with T Higgins money he just doesn't seem like that guy he really is thinking about a real long term deal at a really big bag..
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Who is going to pay him more than T Higgins money? The guy could have been had by 30 other teams for a 3rd round pick and they all passed. 71 yards per game so far, and that could realistically go down once Lamb comes back and if the defense doesn't force us to into shootouts half the time. I just can't see anyone giving him #1 money after the low interest he had just a few months ago with his numbers being pretty much on par with what he did in Pittsburgh.
 
Let me know how Pickens behaves and how Williams does physically and then I will let you know. Right now I dont want to pay either. Just use up their rookie deals and move on. Jerry who spent a 3 for Pickens probably pays him though.
 
blueblood70 said:
The same time I hate to break it to you and anybody else who hasn't thought about this listen to his postgame press conferences all of them he's used these words i'm glad I can be here as a cowboy showcasing my skills maximizing my value you know who his agent is right parsons maximized his value by getting out of Dallas..
What George is gonna want is to be the number one wide receiver who gets the number one wide receiver money therefore we almost have zero control on who we're choosing here..

Just don't see this guy wanting to be behind CD lamb Not just about money he wants to be the guy and that's not Dallas Fall or Jerrys fault we're going to get him as a one year rental but the only thing we can do is franchise tag him so we can maximize his trade value and then let him go so he's not a headache I am not going through that again this offseason with this agent...

Just don't believe he'd even be happy with T Higgins money he just doesn't seem like that guy he really is thinking about a real long term deal at a really big bag..
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I don't fault Pickens trying to make the most money he can.

NFL player careers are short and can end at any time so the only security they have is the money they already received and the contract they have when the injury happens.

He could have pulled a Parsons and threatened to hold out but he showed up and has done the job.

Sure, he's focused on showcasing his skills (I would be too in his place) but in the end, helping the Cowboys win helps his next contract value so the goals of both the team and the player are aligned.

Now, that said .. if he wants Lamb type of money and a team out there is willing to pay it, then wish him well and start looking for another #2 receiver from within, the draft or free agency.

Right now, the only thing that matters with Pickens is whether he plays hard, helps the Cowboys win and keeps the drama out of his game.
 
thunderpimp91 said:
Who is going to pay him more than T Higgins money? The guy could have been had by 30 other teams for a 3rd round pick and they all passed. 71 yards per game so far, and that could realistically go down once Lamb comes back and if the defense doesn't force us to into shootouts half the time. I just can't see anyone giving him #1 money after the low interest he had just a few months ago with his numbers being pretty much on par with what he did in Pittsburgh.
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So let me get this straight you think George Pickens has high value he's a great wide receiver but you don't think he'll get paid like a number one ride receiver somewhere number one wide receivers make more than number two how do you know what his value is somehow Parsons was able to up his value about 5 1/2 million more than he deserved he's got an agent that can do it they're using Dallas to do it....

Yes I believe he can get more guaranteed money but also be the guy did you not hear that part 'cause you somehow go blank he wants to be the guy he has an ego he wants to be the number one wide receiver and he's not going to do that here...

Courses in a contract year using the Cowboys who he's gonna be on his best behavior but once it's over and he has control to try to leave here all bets are off he will push him to get his way out of here with his wonderful agent that we already dealt with and I don't even acknowledge he exists...
 
Reality said:
While I know it's a "fun" game, for me I wouldn't re-sign either right now.

We need to see how Javonte holds up over a full season with him after severely tearing his ACL and other ligaments during the 2022 season that took him longer to recover from than normal ACL tears.

Even beyond that, he's never had to carry the load like he is in Dallas. In looking at his stats, he carried it 217 times (his most ever in a season) in 2023 and 139 times in 2024.

So far in 5 games, he's carried the ball 79 times which puts him on pace for 269 carries this season if he plays every game.

If he finishes the season like he started the season, then I can easily see the Cowboys bringing him back with a 2 or 3 year contract for a reasonable (not overpaid) amount.

As for Pickens, he has definitely stepped up since Lamb's injury and he's definitely showing he can be a solid #2 receiver to Lamb and step-in #1 receiver when Lamb is out.

What remains to be seen is how he will handle adversity as the season progresses whether that be few catches in games the Cowboys lose or protracted low-target games where he feels his 2026 contract potential is being impacted.

Like Javonte, if Pickens continues playing at the level he is and continues being a team player and avoiding drama, I can see the Cowboys making him a solid offer as well after the season.
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I can appreciate that position but I think we all know that the prices will only go up the longer we wait.

The Joneses have certainly shown us that.
 
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