Jaylon Smith nerve regenerating

eternaljester81 · Jan 5, 2017

dstew60105 said:
He was on the NFI, moved off it and eventually placed on IR. At least that's my understanding.

I believe that is correct, and that a player must stay on IR at least 8 weeks before returning to practice, and 2 more before playing in a game.

dstew60105 · Jan 5, 2017

jimnabby said:
Not exactly. You get the 5th pick in 2017, but you can only sign the guy for 3 years, instead of 4 with a 5th-year option.

Since he didn't play I believe we maintain his rights for an extra year. Thought I read that somewhere.

GhostOfPelluer · Jan 5, 2017

dstew60105 said:
He was on the NFI, moved off it and eventually placed on IR. At least that's my understanding.

I think you have to be activated from the NFI to be moved off of it. Which would have required him to take a spot on the 53-man roster. He never was, and even the team website currently lists him as Reserve/NFI, which is different from Reserve/Injured (which is often called IR). I know it sounds like I'm splitting hairs but you can't be activated from the Reserve/NFI once that 3-week window closes.

eternaljester81 · Jan 5, 2017

eternaljester81 said:
I believe that is correct, and that a player must stay on IR at least 8 weeks before returning to practice, and 2 more before playing in a game.

I was close:
"That designated player is eligible to return to practice if he has been on the IR list for at least six weeks from the date he was placed on Reserve. He is eligible to return to the active list if has been on the IR list for at least eight weeks from the date he is placed on Reserve."
(http://www.dummies.com/sports/football/new-nfl-injuredreserve-ir-rule/)

irishline · Jan 5, 2017

dallasfan4lizife said:
Tony Romo ran a 4.3 running backwards..

So a 4.5 isn't impressive.

Don't you mean Sanchez ran a 4.3 backwards? Pretty sure I saw that during a sack he took in the Eagles game.

Nightman · Jan 5, 2017

jimnabby said:
Not exactly. You get the 5th pick in 2017, but you can only sign the guy for 3 years, instead of 4 with a 5th-year option.

the 20m in savings more than pays for the Franchise tag if needed

plus DAL could have tolled the year but they decided to pay him in full while keeping him on the NFI

dstew60105 · Jan 5, 2017

GhostOfPelleur said:
I think you have to be activated from the NFI to be moved off of it. Which would have required him to take a spot on the 53-man roster. He never was, and even the team website currently lists him as Reserve/NFI, which is different from Reserve/Injured (which is often called IR). I know it sounds like I'm splitting hairs but you can't be activated from the Reserve/NFI once that 3-week window closes.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...oys-to-activate-jaylon-smith-mcfadden-off-nfi

He was activated and the team received a 3 week roster exemption to add him to the active roster.

LandryFan · Jan 5, 2017

irishline said:
Don't you mean Sanchez ran a 4.3 backwards? Pretty sure I saw that during a sack he took in the Eagles game.

He was moving like he was at the Bonneville Salt Flats.

Old'Boyfan · Jan 5, 2017

Supercowboy1986 said:
I hope jaylon smith doesn't become the 2016 Matt Johnson.

The greatest player who never played.

I'm fired up for May.

Lol. I was blasted on another forum for saying we should cut ties with Johnson after he missed his 3rd (?) year. One poster said "you'll be eating crow when he's our starting safety this year".
I'm certainly not writing off J. Smith. I just don't want to get hopes up till we see some practice time.

Nightman · Jan 5, 2017

xwalker said:
Jaylon Smith signed a $6.49 million contract with the Cowboys. Smith received $4.52 million in guaranteed salary including a $2.923 million signing bonus.

Are those Cadillacs? Probably not too bad spending wise if that's all he is giving away.

Cadillacs for his parents is not extravagant at all....plus he got 5m in insurance for slipping out of the 1st round

bayeslife · Jan 5, 2017

jimnabby said:
Right. This is Jaylon speculating, not somebody else speculating.

I mean. He himself is now saying he is regaining feeling and has been told the nerve is coming back. How is that speculating?

GhostOfPelluer · Jan 5, 2017

dstew60105 said:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...oys-to-activate-jaylon-smith-mcfadden-off-nfi

He was activated and the team received a 3 week roster exemption to add him to the active roster.

Fair enough on the previous activation. He's still not eligible for reactivation currently because he's not on IR currently, but is on NFI, which is not eligible.

Rogerthat12 · Jan 5, 2017

This is GREAT news, Jaylon will be ready for 2017, the kid has the work ethic, character and skills at an elite level.

Once he has fully healed and motor function is normal, I have no doubt he will be an elite talent for our defense going forward, he is that good including pass rush ability.

NoLuv4Jerry · Jan 5, 2017

RS12 said:
I think Lee is playing at more than a somewhat elite level. When he isnt out there, more bad things seem to happen.

He may be playing at an elite level considering the talent around him. But I consider elite as somewhat getting sacks, generating turnovers, making tackles for loss on a consistent basis. Don't get me wrong...I LOVE Sean Lee...so I meant no disrespect. But when I think of elite...I think of Lawrence Taylor, Reggie White, Derrick Thomas etc...

JD_KaPow · Jan 5, 2017

187beatdown said:
I mean. He himself is now saying he is regaining feeling and has been told the nerve is coming back. How is that speculating?

First, I was responding to your comment about him saying he would participate in OTAs, which is speculation until they actually start.

Second, given things like this...

...I'm not going to read too much into what Jaylon says about his status. He hasn't actually said in a straightforward way, "I'm regaining feeling," so far as I know.

Proof · Jan 5, 2017

mrtxstar said:
Maybe this is good news for next season but the idea of him in these playoffs needs to be shelved. I'm praying for the young man but he is not coming off IR.

Only because he literally can't. But if they hadn't missed that 3 week window back in November....

Sydla · Jan 5, 2017

bkight13 said:
Cadillacs for his parents is not extravagant at all....plus he got 5m in insurance for slipping out of the 1st round

I don't believe he got $5MM. The $5MM was if he never played again. He got $700M for slipping out of the first round and was taken with the top pick in the 2nd round. Every spot in the 2nd he slipped, he would get another $100M. So he ended up getting $900M.

Toruk_Makto · Jan 5, 2017

jimnabby said:
Not exactly. You get the 5th pick in 2017, but you can only sign the guy for 3 years, instead of 4 with a 5th-year option.

But you also pay only 7M over 4 years rather than 25M plus over those 4 years plus top 10 position money on a 5ht year extension.

LucaBrasi · Jan 5, 2017

doesn't turn 22 until June too.

dstew60105 · Jan 5, 2017

GhostOfPelleur said:
Fair enough on the previous activation. He's still not eligible for reactivation currently because he's not on IR currently, but is on NFI, which is not eligible.

http://sportsday.***BANNED-URL***/d...lb-jaylon-smith-season-ending-injured-reserve

He's on IR, just not eligible to return because he would need to be on IR for 6 weeks to be able to return.

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