Jaylon Smith's nerve has no significant improvement yet

Daillest88 said:
man I love the player and it has only been 2 months. but if he can never play football again, especially with tony romo at the end of his career. this pic will haunt us, I say that because there was plenty of talent left on the board. I tell ya these 2nd round picks piss me off.
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Who would you have wanted them to pick at 34 then? I'm not trying to pick a fight, I swear... I'm just wondering.
 
AsthmaField said:
Who would you have wanted them to pick at 34 then? I'm not trying to pick a fight, I swear... I'm just wondering.
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Every year guys get picked in the 2nd that contribute. We might know their names or upside. But the good scouts and good talent evaluators do. By the end of the year they'll be six guys taken in the 2nd that will be in the we should of taken him list.
 
Vinnie2u said:
Every year guys get picked in the 2nd that contribute. We might know their names or upside. But the good scouts and good talent evaluators do. By the end of the year they'll be six guys taken in the 2nd that will be in the we should of taken him list.
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How about Mackenzie Alexander, Tyler Boyd to mention two of my favorite prospects from the draft. There were a ton of guys still on the board.
 
Vinnie2u said:
Every year guys get picked in the 2nd that contribute. We might know their names or upside. But the good scouts and good talent evaluators do. By the end of the year they'll be six guys taken in the 2nd that will be in the we should of taken him list.
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But on the flip side there are 26 guys who disappointed. If only you knew who those 6 were.
 
I see it this way. You have enough money to pay the mortgage. But not enough to pay the car payment. You go to Vegas to gamble with the mortgage money. You win big. Does it make it the right move or just luck? Which eventually runs out..
 
I'm not going to overreact to this, the rest of you uninformed lot can do that

I'm just going to wait for the most reliable source, Dr @FuzzyLumpkins to do another Google search and tell me the odds of his playing this year
 
Vinnie2u said:
Every year guys get picked in the 2nd that contribute. We might know their names or upside. But the good scouts and good talent evaluators do. By the end of the year they'll be six guys taken in the 2nd that will be in the we should of taken him list.
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That is true... but I bet the teams that hit on those 6 second rounders will probably be different from the teams that hit on them the year before. And those 6 will likely be different that the 6 before that.

My point is that it won't be like the teams that hit on them this year know anything different than the other 26 teams... if they did, then they would have hit on them the year before... and the year before that, etc.

The scouts and coaches know more about the players than us fans do but they miss an awful lot too. If teams knew for certain who would be those really good second round picks, then they'd be the first 6 guys taken in the second round. They never are.

Dallas would have taken someone else if they would have really thought they knew who was going to be great. Had Ogbah or Dodd made it one more pick, they would have been Dallas' pick. They didn't and apparently Dallas didn't think anyone else was a better pick than Smith along with the risk.

Having said all of that, I was a little upset that the Cowboys didn't go with a guy who could help them this year. I wasn't a real big fan of rolling the dice at 34.

Now though, I hope for the best with the pick and I understand the logic in taking him, even if I didn't agree with it. He certainly is a fantastic, dominant player if he can get back 100%. The pick can be a grand slam, for sure.

I just wouldn't have done it most likely. However, there wasn't anyone that I just absolutely loved that was available... which is why I'm asking who people think they should have taken.

There were some nice DT's sitting there but not anyone who would be a better 1 than Thornton, and I think the team had Collins (or Day) targeted for the 3rd round and wasn't going to take a 3 tech in the second round anyway. Spence, I don't think was an option because of Gregory, etc.

I'm just not sure who they should take after Dodd and Ogbah went.
 
AsthmaField said:
I'm just not sure who they should take after Dodd and Ogbah went.
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Dodd and Ogbah right in front of us took the wind out of my sail. Imagine if we got Hunter Henry. This place would have been a riot

Smith is high risk. If you wanted a LBer, Ragland was available and is a tackling machine
 
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Daillest88 said:
Sterling Shepard, Noah Spence, Su'a Cravens, could of traded down and picked up Carl Nassib or Darian Thompson, a lot of options, but I do like Jaylon, and im hoping he can play again.
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Well, I thought Spence has a shot at being good (particularly in Marinelli's defense) but I don't think Dallas was going to take him at all because of recent events with Gregory, Hardy, etc.

I like Shepard a whole lot but I doubt Dallas would have taken him that high because IMO, they view him as a slot guy and they have a young Beasley who is very good.

I would have been upset with Cravens. Not a fan of his at all. Too slow and can't cover good enough for safety and won't have enough anchor to play LB very well. He would be a sub package player and a good nickle backer, IMO. There were plenty of guys like that who could have been had much later. I actually don't see him as very different from Frazier.

Nassib I didn't like, particularly that high. Thompson wasn't good enough to take at in the second at all, IMO.

Again, not saying I'm right but that is my thought process and why I struggle with who I would have taken at 34 in their shoes.

The only guy I personally would have been happy with (of those you mentioned) is Shepard.
 
Vinnie2u said:
I see it this way. You have enough money to pay the mortgage. But not enough to pay the car payment. You go to Vegas to gamble with the mortgage money. You win big. Does it make it the right move or just luck? Which eventually runs out..
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But in the Cowboys case they know the dealer and he told him to come see him. wink-wink
 
Vinnie2u said:
I see it this way. You have enough money to pay the mortgage. But not enough to pay the car payment. You go to Vegas to gamble with the mortgage money. You win big. Does it make it the right move or just luck? Which eventually runs out..
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Sort of the way I looked at it too. There is more than just a roll of the dice (luck) in the Cowboys favor though. They had reams of medical info to look at and could use judgement in the decision. I do think it is better than 50/50 that he'll recover.

However, your analogy does hold up somewhat in my eyes. I see it and probably would have gone with a player that I liked almost as much without the risk.
 
Well there is nothing we can do now but wait and see.

Its done, and the only time we can really second guess is this time next year if they are saying the same thing.
 
CalPolyTechnique said:
I do think you need them to run though.
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Yeah......It was a reference to 'ol Parcells.

His trainer came out and told Bill that his kicker wouldn't make warm up's before a game because he had the stomach flu.........Bill said, " He don't kick with his stomach."
 
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