Jean-Jacques Taylor: Henson Project Could Be Sacked

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iceberg said:
you're assuming i've continued to read your tirades, jack. tired of your crap dude so let's just ignore each other and you go over there and hate me quietly now. but fyi - yes some - does *include* you but you're not the only one i've had this disagreement with but feel free to take all the credit if it ends this discussion.

hehe, it doesn't seem like it going to work Ice:D You will be hounded regarldless of accepting defeat. You probably have to kill yourself now :lmao2: :lmao:
 

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wileedog said:
This is a complete non-issue, yet amazingly it still gets brought up a year and a half later as some monumental mistake that is the sole reason we are unsure of our backup situation.

It's not a reason to be "unsure" about the backup position.

I think it's safe to say who is the backup. We are unsure about the players in the position.

But it's more to point out someone's own issues with not being confident in Romo because they haven't seen him play, not that most armchair analyses would mean much. It's also a free shot at the coaching staff, who apparently haven't secured their "stamp of approval".

After all, we have a range of opinion that talks about our potental Hall of Fame starter being a loser all the way to our out-of-football mentally challenged former stater being capable of leading a team to the Super Bowl.
 

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Alexander said:
It's not a reason to be "unsure" about the backup position.

I think it's safe to say who is the backup. We are unsure about the players in the position.

But it's more to point out someone's own issues with not being confident in Romo because they haven't seen him play, not that most armchair analyses would mean much. It's also a free shot at the coaching staff, who apparently haven't secured their "stamp of approval".

After all, we have a range of opinion that talks about our potental Hall of Fame starter being a loser all the way to our out-of-football mentally challenged former stater being capable of leading a team to the Super Bowl.

kinda normal for a fan forum, isn't it?
 

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Alexander said:
Talking about a backup, no it isn't.

for the cowboys, i think it is.

bledsoe is a year, maybe two and likely done. when bp leaves, good chance drew follows again. i can think of no other time in our history we went to an aged vet to "lead the way" and didn't focus on our youth and next "long term" answer. so *to me* until we have an aikman, stabauch or even a danny white back, we'll argue who sucks more till someone steps up and ends it.
 

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iceberg said:
so *to me* until we have an aikman, stabauch or even a danny white back, we'll argue who sucks more till someone steps up and ends it.

Then you probably need to be prepared for a long wait.

This is not a league where you just draft a franchise QB and solve the issue.

The QB position itself has demonstrated it's volatility. For each Palmer or Roethlisberger, you have literally dozens of misses. In each draft you probably have one or at most two who actually make an impact.

The position itself is pretty bleak and you hear NFL coaches lamenting about how weak the position is nearly every year. That's why the 1983 draft is so remarkable. It basically was responsible for feeding the NFL its' top talent for over a decade.
 

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Alexander said:
Then you probably need to be prepared for a long wait.

This is not a league where you just draft a franchise QB and solve the issue.

The QB position itself has demonstrated it's volatility. For each Palmer or Roethlisberger, you have literally dozens of misses. In each draft you probably have one or at most two who actually make an impact.

The position itself is pretty bleak and you hear NFL coaches lamenting about how weak the position is nearly every year. That's why the 1983 draft is so remarkable. It basically was responsible for feeding the NFL its' top talent for over a decade.

i'm prepared.

frustrated at initial lack of success then going the "aged vet on his last leg" route, but prepared.
 

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kartr said:
Everyone was pressuring Parcells to play Henson, he went against his better judgement. Jerry expressed disappointment when Henson was taken out and Parcells has declined go against his better judgement again. So many have criticized Parcells for playing Henson, now you're saying that Henson was being thrown to the wolfs. I think you and the other Hensonites are just frustrated that your guy has been disappointing. I understand that, but as much as I disagree with Parcells overall drafting and free agency strategy, I honestly believe he's handled the qb's he has now the right way.

If you review my post from the time Henson was signed, you'll see that I am pretty consistant in what I think of Henson. I am a supporter but I am not a blind loyalist. I would rather not be characterized as a Hensonite. It is a rediculous way to be discribed.

Thank you in advance.
 

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iceberg said:
didn't focus on our youth and next "long term" answer.

whattaya think we're doing with Romo and Henson?

iceberg said:
so *to me* until we have an aikman, stabauch or even a danny white back, we'll argue who sucks more till someone steps up and ends it.

you guys are gonna have to let go of the past when expecting something from QBs nowadays, Aikman, Staubach and even Danny White come around once in a blue moon
 

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summerisfunner said:
whattaya think we're doing with Romo and Henson?



you guys are gonna have to let go of the past when expecting something from QBs nowadays, Aikman, Staubach and even Danny White come around once in a blue moon


That's the question. What are we doing.

I am not of the opinion that fans have to get used to having an average player at QB. Why does it have to be that way? It's not as if great players at the position don't come around. You simply have to be willing to invest in what it takes to try and get one. Will we ever do that? I don't know. I do know that the chances of getting one are far less if we continue to try to find our starters in the UFA market or what have you. I guess we'll just have to see what happens.
 

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ABQCOWBOY said:
That's the question. What are we doing.

uh, developing them, using the phrase, "I don't want to throw him to the wolves", pretty much sums up the whole situation

ABQCOWBOY said:
I am not of the opinion that fans have to get used to having an average player at QB. Why does it have to be that way?

I'm not saying settle for an average QB, even though nowadays you don't have to be really special to lead a team, like Ben Roth, he's a good QB, but he's not special, and he's certainly no Aikman or Staubach, but good enough to build a perennial contender around, expecting to find another Aikman is setting yourself up for some serious disappointment, again, a player like that comes around only so often, and usually are only available within the top 3, 5, picks of the draft, and like Alexander noted, the quality for QBs has been really down for a really long time, and more busts than franchise QBs have come around
 

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If it means anything, Jeff Ireland spoke highly of Henson in an interview on the Ticket. He said he thought he got good experience out there playing in a multitude of game situations...and most importanly that he was happy with his development so far. Surpsiginly to me, this interview kind of fell under the cracks, probably because it wasn't transcribed on the forum here.
 

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CowboyManDan said:
If it means anything, Jeff Ireland spoke highly of Henson in an interview on the Ticket. He said he thought he got good experience out there playing in a multitude of game situations...and most importanly that he was happy with his development so far. Surpsiginly to me, this interview kind of fell under the cracks, probably because it wasn't transcribed on the forum here.

thanks for the snippet, it probably was missed on here because it's too positive
 

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summerisfunner said:
thanks for the snippet, it probably was missed on here because it's too positive

No prob. The interview was probably a month ago or so, give or take. I jst happened to be listening online at the time.
 

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summerisfunner said:
uh, developing them, using the phrase, "I don't want to throw him to the wolves", pretty much sums up the whole situation



I'm not saying settle for an average QB, even though nowadays you don't have to be really special to lead a team, like Ben Roth, he's a good QB, but he's not special, and he's certainly no Aikman or Staubach, but good enough to build a perennial contender around, expecting to find another Aikman is setting yourself up for some serious disappointment, again, a player like that comes around only so often, and usually are only available within the top 3, 5, picks of the draft, and like Alexander noted, the quality for QBs has been really down for a really long time, and more busts than franchise QBs have come around

I think everybody is fine with developing a young QB but it kinda gets back to the whole, if you've been here 4 years and your not good enough to even throw a pass in a game situation, not ready is probably the better wording, then you have to wonder how well that development is actually going. Same with Henson and his 3 years. At some point, you have to know. That's whatthe whole issue is about IMO.
 

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ABQCOWBOY said:
I think everybody is fine with developing a young QB but it kinda gets back to the whole, if you've been here 4 years and your not good enough to even throw a pass in a game situation, not ready is probably the better wording, then you have to wonder how well that development is actually going. Same with Henson and his 3 years. At some point, you have to know. That's whatthe whole issue is about IMO.

but when Jerry Jones said it's going to be a process w/ Henson, and it's going on year 4, maybe they were right then, and are still in that process, and now we're hearing good things from Parcells about Romo
 

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ABQCOWBOY said:
I think everybody is fine with developing a young QB but it kinda gets back to the whole, if you've been here 4 years and your not good enough to even throw a pass in a game situation, not ready is probably the better wording, then you have to wonder how well that development is actually going. Same with Henson and his 3 years. At some point, you have to know. That's whatthe whole issue is about IMO.

I see your point but most NFL coaches are only going to play the backup QB in the event of an injury to the starter or possibly late game garbage time which tells you basically nothing. We've been fortunate here not to have injury problems with our starters. I hope that trend continues this year because we need to win as many games as we can and Bledsoe gives us the best chance of doing that. But there is a cost of not knowing what you've got at backup. Nature of the beast.
 

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summerisfunner said:
but when Jerry Jones said it's going to be a process w/ Henson, and it's going on year 4, maybe they were right then, and are still in that process, and now we're hearing good things from Parcells about Romo

there's throwing him to the wolves, and there's not letting him throw a pass in 3 years running. as i've said before - we've had opportunity to play them when it didn't really matter. could this in the end wind up being the "right move"?

contrary to what *SOME* have slapped me with, i DO feel this *could* be the right move. just because i don't rant and rave about ALL SIDES of an issue (who does?) doesn't mean i'm saying my way is the *only* way.

but it sure does get taken that way a lot by SOME who feel they must slap me cause i don't see it THEIR way. (not you summer)
 

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iceberg said:
there's throwing him to the wolves, and there's not letting him throw a pass in 3 years running. as i've said before - we've had opportunity to play them when it didn't really matter. could this in the end wind up being the "right move"?

coaches can read as much into practice as they can into 2 or 3 meaningless games about a player, when the gameplan isn't even being ran around them

your starter going into the season and for the duration, the gameplan is made to fit them, but just all of a sudden changing it up for a new guy w/ a little over a week or 2 to prepare isn't going to tell you much of anything
 
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