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So... Only draft blue chip players. Got it.

No. Draft long tough tackling defensive backs who can make up a lot of ground. They only need to demonstrate good skill sets with their hips and backpedal. They don't need to be elitish in their skills. You can teach them good technique if they are coachable and have the above. They have to be able to tackle and stay on the field.
 

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It's because he doesn't have anything to work with. One first round bust, nobody taken higher than a fifth round pick from a major university and a bunch of Division II talent. We continue to select DB's from small schools in high rounds. They aren't on the team anymore and Wilcox will follow them out the door.

I'm not certain I completely agree with all this but there is definitely some smoke there. They need to get the right kinds of guys to 'coach up'.
 

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This guy is supposed to be one of the best DB coaches in the game. Our defensive backs have been awful.

They've been awful longer than he's been here though. Is there a scout that is in charge of scouting DBs, or do scouts just scout every position.

I cannot for the life of me understand why our DBs are consistently terrible. And they have been for a long time.

What's going on? It's not like the organizing isn't trying. They are throwing tons of resources at the position.

Does anyone have any ideas? I'm being serious. Not trying to start a complain thread. This is a legitimate question.

My take on why we've been so bad for so long has to do with our DBs not recognizing the plays in front of them and who is supposed to watch who.

I'm going out on the limb here and say that the reason for our DBs being so bad is not because of athletic ability or skill - its because they don't know how to recognize certain formations and don't know who's responsibility is who's. This is because we have been practicing an over-simplified and predictable offense that when it comes to game time, our DBs face formations we never seen before, thus causing confusing. Don't believe me? Take a look at why Vernon Davis was so wide open.

Garrett not only affected this team negatively with his bad play-calling. But he also affected our defense because Garrett just doesn't know how to call a pro-style offense. Thus our DBs are always confused.

This is why Sean Lee excells. He recognized formations better than anyone on our team. When he went down we seem to run around like chickens without heads.

To fix this is to have an offensive playcaller run a pro-style offense which I think Linehan is on the right path. Or have everyone on defense watch more film.
 

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or maybe we should actually invest more premium resources into that defense. I bet you carr and claiborne look different if we didn't constantly throw late round projects into the safety position or actually fielded a top notch D-line. Also, we need to stop switching coordinators and schemes. It's hard for any of these guys to really settle in when every year they are under a new scheme, especially one that doesn't utilize their particular skillset. We can keep playing the coordinator carousel and think it's going to solve the problem when it's not. There's only been a couple of constants here. Is it funny how no matter who we bring in as coordinator and no matter how heralded they've been prior to coming here, once they land on Dallas shores, they look incompetent?
 

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My take on why we've been so bad for so long has to do with our DBs not recognizing the plays in front of them and who is supposed to watch who.

I'm going out on the limb here and say that the reason for our DBs being so bad is not because of athletic ability or skill - its because they don't know how to recognize certain formations and don't know who's responsibility is who's. This is because we have been practicing an over-simplified and predictable offense that when it comes to game time, our DBs face formations we never seen before, thus causing confusing. Don't believe me? Take a look at why Vernon Davis was so wide open.

Garrett not only affected this team negatively with his bad play-calling. But he also affected our defense because Garrett just doesn't know how to call a pro-style offense. Thus our DBs are always confused.

This is why Sean Lee excells. He recognized formations better than anyone on our team. When he went down we seem to run around like chickens without heads.

To fix this is to have an offensive playcaller run a pro-style offense which I think Linehan is on the right path. Or have everyone on defense watch more film.

Interesting take, something I haven't seen proposed around here but makes a world of sense
 

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I'm with you and want to add Eberflus to the mix. Our coverage has been awful for three years and they have been the coaches involved most in coaching coverage players.

Eberflus was a horrible DC at Mizzou. Guy had db's playing off line 10 yds and same standard base d.
 

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Jerome Henderson will be the next scapegoat that loses his job at the end of the year. Seriously I think Jerry will clean house at the end of the season and make a run at getting Gruden.

No, he will not. Garrett will still be here . Garrett is not going anywhere and he does not need to go anywhere
 

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Players aside... I don't believe in this scheme with the way team spread you out.

Watching Anquan Boldin sit in 5 yards of space over and over isn't just something you can blame on talent. I think the scheme just gives up too much underneath.
 

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No, he will not. Garrett will still be here . Garrett is not going anywhere and he does not need to go anywhere

Let's wait until the end of the year.

Garrett has done nothing to deserve a contract extension and in all honesty the team has become stale, boring, and not successful under his watch.
 

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Its not the coaches Dallas has just been terrible or unfortunate with drafted corners. Like Jenkins and Claiborne and missing with later picks. sounds more like scouting to me. whoever stood on the table for Claiborne needs to demoted to Rowdy status.
 

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Carr was great in KC. He sucks here. Mo was great in college. He sucks here. Newman was pretty bad here in his last years. Now he is pretty good in Cincy. Same for Pacman. Even Alan freaking Ball had an int last sunday for Jacksonville.
 

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One, he has been saddled with awful Safeties.

Two, we suffer from an identity crisis. We bet the farm on man Corners and then jumped ship a year later to a zone heavy scheme.

Back to point one, someone in the Cowboys FO is of the opinion that two run-supporting Strong Safety types is the way to go and then everyone sits around looking at each other when we get beat in deep coverage over and over again. I would think that in the pass-happy modern NFL, two Free Safety types might be the way to go. This team identifying and adding one true Free Safety would be a huge start.
 

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Risen is right though, fix the pass rush and the Secondary improves. I would just add to spend less on Corners and more on a Free Safety.
 

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This guy is supposed to be one of the best DB coaches in the game. Our defensive backs have been awful.

They've been awful longer than he's been here though. Is there a scout that is in charge of scouting DBs, or do scouts just scout every position.

I cannot for the life of me understand why our DBs are consistently terrible. And they have been for a long time.

What's going on? It's not like the organizing isn't trying. They are throwing tons of resources at the position.

Does anyone have any ideas? I'm being serious. Not trying to start a complain thread. This is a legitimate question.

Well..

3 different defensive coordinators in 3 years is a lot of reasons in my opinion..
 

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I'm honestly confused. On one hand I don't think Barry Church, Wilcox and Scandrick are underacheiving. On the other hand, Brandon Carr and Claiborne seem to be doing that these past two seasons. I would simply write it off as Claiborne just not developing and fulfilling his potential if Brandon Carr wasn't playing as bad as he has been these past two years. But its still early in the season. I'll give Carr the benefit of the doubt.

I personally don't think its Henderson but i'm sure he'll be the scapegoat for this.
 

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We have had two mommas die in key positions in our secondary two years in a row, then we've had our leader go down twice as well in Sean Lee, those are three big hits right there...
 
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