Twitter: Jerry’s continued insanity about the sun at AT&T

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Oh ok so we used that route to pull defenders off other routes, but then threw to that route.

Wow, you and KM have it all worked out.
Dak threw to that route, not KM. That's the point.

So many fans think that offensive coordinators determine where the ball is thrown. They just call the play. The QB can run that play, audible out of that play, etc, and when it begins the QB decides where the ball is going.

There's a reason Dak makes 40 times more money than Kellen Moore. It's on him.
 

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I remember the giants coach, the one after Coughlin, said he studied the field, and designed plays around it. I don't think we have coaches smart enough to do that.
So why did the Giants lose here almost every time?
 

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Jimmy studied the field in SF prior to the 1992 NFCCG and had Norv design plays based on field conditions. They resodded parts of the field and Jimmy wanted to make sure his players had good footing. I miss those days!
Yeah, I read about that. Those kind of details are things I'd never think of, but I'm also not a football coach.
 

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Dak threw to that route, not KM. That's the point.

So many fans think that offensive coordinators determine where the ball is thrown. They just call the play. The QB can run that play, audible out of that play, etc, and when it begins the QB decides where the ball is going.

There's a reason Dak makes 40 times more money than Kellen Moore. It's on him.

Duh. My point is why eliminate one route all together when you can flip the play around or run any other variation, which doesn't involve throwing into the sun. Dak took what was open. That's not on him. He has about a second and a half to make his progressions and throw the ball. The coordinator set him and Gallup up for failure. Run the corner fade on the opposite side and the issue is remedied.

Yes football is super hard.
 

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Duh. My point is why eliminate one route all together when you can flip the play around or run any other variation, which doesn't involve throwing into the sun. Dak took what was open. That's not on him. He has about a second and a half to make his progressions and throw the ball. The coordinator set him and Gallup up for failure. Run the corner fade on the opposite side and the issue is remedied.

Yes football is super hard.
There was a receiver on the other side, too, who wasn't in the sun.
 

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Dak threw to that route, not KM. That's the point.

So many fans think that offensive coordinators determine where the ball is thrown. They just call the play. The QB can run that play, audible out of that play, etc, and when it begins the QB decides where the ball is going.

There's a reason Dak makes 40 times more money than Kellen Moore. It's on him.
I remember reading something a few years back where former a NFL QB (think it was Alex Smith but not sure) said NFL QBs run the actual play called maybe 60% of the time. In todays game with lots of run-pass option plays, the QB is more the actual play caller than the OC.

I’m not a huge Kellen Moore fan, but he gets way more criticism for “play calls” than he deserves. All fans love the play calls that work and hate the ones that don’t. Those are the bad calls, lol.
 

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They're are 5 receivers to choose from.
Yes, but there is a primary receiver, and if Dak took the time to look around the entire field Gallup would have been out of the end zone before he could throw the ball. That's a route you have to commit to without hesitation.
 

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A fade pattern to the corner of the endzone is usually the only played called since it pretty much has to be thrown almost immediately after the snap.
Depends on defensive coverage. If the QB looks to that side and they have an extra man to take the fade route away then the decision is made pre snap not to throw that pass and go somewhere else with the ball.
 

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This is just the dumbest argument. Nobody will care if the curtains are closed because - stop me, if I am wrong - people are watching the game, not the giant glass doors. Only Jerry cares.
 

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The sun works both ways. I don't see how it puts us at a competitive disadvantage. You would think the home team would be smart enough to adapt.

This.

A professional in a stadium with sun should have mapped out the course of the sun during the game and correlated this with pass plays. No excuse for calling a route that leaves your player blinded.
 
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Watching our players (like Michael Gallup last Sat or Cedric Wilson last Jan in the playoffs) get blinded by the sun trying to catch a football when there are curtains available is just insane. I’ve watched several college and HS games at AT&T where those curtains ARE used so the sun is not a factor in games.

I’m hard pressed to think of another sports owner or executive with this kind of stubborn stupidity, who literally cares more about visual aesthetics than winning. It’s maddening.

AND…the multi-million dollar upgrades JJ is paying for aren’t designed to fix this.

The hole in the roof was suppose to pay homage to Texas Stadium. However, God looks down and does not peek through to see his favorite team. Oh Oh maybe that is why no Dallas Cowboys team has gone to a Super Bowl playing in that stadium as God has to peek in?
 

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The hole in the roof was suppose to pay homage to Texas Stadium. However, God looks down and does not peek through to see his favorite team. Oh Oh maybe that is why no Dallas Cowboys team has gone to a Super Bowl playing in that stadium as God has to peek in?
What's the point of the roof if they only open it once every 2 years?
 

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The hole in the roof was suppose to pay homage to Texas Stadium. However, God looks down and does not peek through to see his favorite team. Oh Oh maybe that is why no Dallas Cowboys team has gone to a Super Bowl playing in that stadium as God has to peek in?
Jerry is steadfast in his willful ignorance. Yes, Billionaires can be Jackasses too.
 

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It does work both ways
And our OC has been in the stadium long enough to know at the time of the day don’t call a fade in that corner of the endzone
My first reaction was why call that on that side of the field? The other side had shade
What might be a good idea is to have just one receiver go to the end zone and do it to that corner, then throw to the center once the sun blinds the DB.
 

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"Yes, Billionaires can be Jackasses too." is the Title of Jerrys next book and life story.
 

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Yes Jerry is a moron

The entire world already knows what a fool this man is

That’s his lasting legacy. Destroying the once proud Dallas cowboys franchise and turning them into a complete joke and embarrassment

Some of us remember when the cowboys won all those close games and the entire franchise was winners
 
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