Jerry about not being able to afford players and the cap and so on

[CowboysFaninHouston]

JUST asking. Are they moving the 20 million to next season to help payoff the 40 million they still owe Dak from his first contract?

Didn't contract get redone and it's all in the new one?

 

[Chasing6]

Good math, though the key is to restructure Dak and add pieces everywhere so that they aren't burning years for no reason. They're not going to cut him two years into the extension.

They could have well over $100m in cap space if they want, even without the rollover, and be no worse than they are now. Just for even numbers, let's assume they are currently at $265m committed to next year and the cap will be $285m (same jump as 2023 to 2024), so $20m available space.

Dak Restructure: $37.2
CD Restructure: $20.5
Terrence Steele Post June 1 Cut: $14m
Donovan Wilson Cut: $5.4m
Micah Extension: $10m

These easy moves put you at $107m and you haven't gutted the roster (there's little fat to trim anyway). This does not account for any rollover or void year logistics for Zack Martin, Demarcus Lawrence or Brandin Cooks ($21m).

You have pending contracts for Daron Bland, Tyler Smith, Jake Ferguson and Osa and a backup QB as UFA - extending all of them is probably going to count for ~$50m cap

We save $5.2M when Trance is gone.

 

[KJJ]

And Parsons will likely be a dominant pass rusher well into his next contract.

So what’s your point?

His best days are already look like they’re behind him. He’ll be lucky to come up with 7-8 sacks this season. So far he only has one in the four games he played. I’m hoping his next contract is with another team.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

It may all be bull****, but when some of your are saying how much cap space the cowboys have, is that for the current year, or are you looking at how much cap space they have several years down? Players get payed a percentage each year. Is the current cap space also taking into consideration the players on the team who we are trying to still sign? I too wanted to get a better running back than Zeke but well I think some of you guys are over simplifying things without showing actual researched proof by giving us the numbers of say, if we sign M. Parsons this is how much a year he would take up, and if we sign these players this is how much, before you get to if we sign this running back we don't have and this receiver we don't have, and then see if the cap is still fine.

That is for this year. Next year is next year.
Now I get it uou have to look ahead but that's managed through restructuring.

The cap space is not the proof ontonitself but the cash spent which was 30th before CD and Dak and dead cap indicating they keep players until.contract runs out despite performance. Similar to him.keep lame coaches until their contracts run out despite the incompetence.

Every team has similar cap issues each year and subsequent years. Better teams manage it better.

So with that said, given we don't sign FAs then it puts into focus the draft and you have to hit the nail on the head every draft to keep tale t pool high. Given past two years we have missed brings us to the current roster issues.

Add to it the incompetence of Jerry's trades I Cooper and Lance.

It just all adds up to crap we got today

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Go to: https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/dallas-cowboys

For next year the team has 39 players signed for next year. That included DLaw and Martin who are going to definitely be gone.

They have 28 million in cap space. So when they’re gone you have 37 active players that include guys like Nathan Thomas, Earl Bostick and KJ Henry. Which means you have to find at least 16 more just to make up an active roster plus practice squad.

Now Dak can be restructured and save the team 12 million according to https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/cap/_/year/2025 but that gives you just 40 million to find all those players

How about other teams. I bet most are in similar situation. It's not just a Cowboys problem

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

But when you have to go find 20 players to fill a roster the money won’t go as far as you think.

You are not looking for 20 stars. You are looking for 4 or 5 top notch players and 16 others. Similar to any other team. 60M is more than enough. And better than a lot of other teams.

Also this has been the trend with Cowboys they have 15 to 20M cap space each year they roll over. And they were 30th in cash spent.

 

[Creeper]

If the problem is that signing CeeDee, Micah and Dak would cost too much money and prevent the team from signing other players then perhaps the right answer was not to plan on signing all 3. I guarantee the team that will win the Super Bowl this year will not have Dak or CeeDee or Micah. That means it is possible to win the Super Bowl without them. In other words, you don't have to sign them. You can trade one of them and get some beloved draft picks because that's the only way the Cowboys build their team.

For me, I would not have signed Dak at $60 million per year. I would not sign CeeDee at $34. If Jerry had approached these guys to begin serious negotiations as soon as the season ended, he would have known they would be too expensive and he could have begin planning to move on from them. He could have traded CeeDee and picked up a 1st round draft pick to draft a new WR getting paid a lot less money. There is nothing wrong with moving on from players who want more money than they are worth. CeeDee is a good WR but giving him $34 million so he can be double teamed out of effectiveness was silly. Also, CeeDee signaled where his head was at when he held out. That was a sign it is time to move on too.

There is nothing magical about certain players. You have to find the right combination, not a single player or trio.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

We save $5.2M when Trance is gone.

That's already accounted for in next year's books.

 

[raven55]

all the adding and getting ridding of players don't help unless you have a real gm

 

[Chasing6]

His best days are already look like they’re behind him. He’ll be lucky to come up with 7-8 sacks this season. So far he only has one in the four games he played. I’m hoping his next contract is with another team.

That is the point!!!

But GM Jethro loves to pay players based off their past performance not their future projections.

 

[KJJ]

That is the point!!!

But GM Jethro loves to pay players based off their past performance not their future projections.

All teams pay players off of what they’ve done. This is why they’re up for big contracts.

 

[Big_D]

all the adding and getting ridding of players don't help unless you have a real gm

Doesn't matter how much space they have with the toxic twins running the show.

 

[Whiskey Cowboy]

JUST asking. Are they moving the 20 million to next season to help payoff the 40 million they still owe Dak from his first contract?

That's the only logical reason I can think of

 

[Chasing6]

All teams pay players off of what they’ve done. This is why they’re up for big contracts.

Good GM trade and not over pay players.

 

[KJJ]

Good GM trade and not over pay players.

You have to overpay a QB and your top receiver. Look around the league. If we moved on from either one we would be real screwed. The player we need to trade is Parsons. He’s not going to be worth near the money he’s asking for. His best years already look behind him.

 

[OGSixshooter]

lol yo man, welcome to May 2024

That was cold...but so true.

 

[Chasing6]

You have to overpay a QB and your top receiver. Look around the league. If we moved on from either one we would be real screwed. The player we need to trade is Parsons. He’s not going to be worth near the money he’s asking for. His best years already look behind him.

I don't believe KC over paid their WR.

This was a very deep WR draft class.

Could we have traded CD, drafted a WR and signed a WR in FA? Yes we could have.

 

[Chasing6]

I don't believe KC over paid their WR.

This was a very deep WR draft class.

Could we have traded CD, drafted a WR and signed a WR in FA? Yes we could have.

If we got blown out last year. Why did we think paying CD and Dak more money with less talent on the field around them was going to somehow make us better?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Good GM trade and not over pay players.

good GMs let go of players that are on the decline and not wait until their last year of contract which is what Jerry does often, explaining why we have such a low dead cap money.

 

[KJJ]

I don't believe KC over paid their WR.

This was a very deep WR draft class.

Could we have traded CD, drafted a WR and signed a WR in FA? Yes we could have.

They decided to trade Tyreek Hill because they have a very talented team. They didn’t want to pay big money for him. We don’t have a very talented team and can’t afford to lose our best WR. It doesn’t matter how deep the WR class is it doesn’t guarantee you’re going to come up with a good one. Remove CeeDee from this team and we have a very average at best WR group. CeeDee is a real good one and we did the right thing by paying him. You can’t just let all your best players walk or trade them. The free agent losses this past off-season has made us worse because we did hardly anything in free agency. Trading CeeDee and drafting a WR and signing a FA doesn’t assure that will make us better. The Cowboys don’t do much in free agency anyway. A free agent WR would cost big money if they’re worth a darn. You could end up with a bust drafting a WR. Tolbert was a third round pick and although he’s improved and is starting to make some plays, he’s nowhere close to a number one receiver.