Jerry admits he needs to change, so where's the change?

[Hostile]

You're right, a very sleazy but smart business man when it comes to making the $. But Jerry does know eventually this team needs to win because all this glitz and glam he creates won't hold up for much longer. Unfortunately it may have to come down to the fans stiffing on going to games and buying merchandise for him to put a real GM and coaching staff in there.

Jerry doesn't create the glam, the Cowboys do. The spotlight burns bright.

We knew when Parcells left Jerry would go back to the run of the mill/push over coaching. I think the day Jerry is ready to give the GM spot up to someone other than a Jones, he's either in a coffin or is ready to sell this team.

He won't sell it.

He's been the GM of this team approx 75% of the time he's owned it.

Try 100% of the time he has owned it. 75% of the time woudl be 15 years. Who was the GM the other 5 years?

In 90% of that 75% we haven't won a playoff game.

More bad math. To reach 90% of the time we haven't won a playoff game in Jerry's 20 years as GM it would mean we haven't won on in 18 years instead of 12.

The 10% we did it was from Jimmy's team. Got to get real.

And still more bad math. It was "Jimmy's Team" for 25% of the time Jerry has been owner. 40% of Jimmy's year were championship years. We have won 3 Championships in Jerry's 20 years. 3 divided by 20 is 15%.

 

[Hostile]

You are exactly right.

Uh, no he isn't.

 

[Jon88]

Uh, no he isn't.

Uh, I'm sorry you have a thing for Jerry Jones, captain of the Titanic, but I agree with him. Edit: The numbers might not be exactly right, but he is dead on.

 

[Jon88]

Jerry doesn't create the glam, the Cowboys do. The spotlight burns bright.

He won't sell it.

Try 100% of the time he has owned it. 75% of the time woudl be 15 years. Who was the GM the other 5 years?

More bad math. To reach 90% of the time we haven't won a playoff game in Jerry's 20 years as GM it would mean we haven't won on in 18 years instead of 12.

And still more bad math. It was "Jimmy's Team" for 25% of the time Jerry has been owner. 40% of Jimmy's year were championship years. We have won 3 Championships in Jerry's 20 years. 3 divided by 20 is 15%.

Stop being a bully. How many championships have we won post Jimmy? 1. With his players. How many playoff games post the Superbowl win with Jimmy's players? 1. How many years ago was that? 12.

I know he pays you to say these things.

 

[OAM]

Another pissing in the wind post!




Jerry is not going anywhere....

Sorry, Charlie!

Not asking for Jerry to go away. Asking him to represent the change he's talking about. To me, Jerry getting either a proper personnel man at the GM position or a real HC who is not a push over would represent adequate change. I like Jerry the Owner/ the master marketer, there's no one better in the league. It's also a very important aspect to the business, but the GM who has to find the coaching, players and incorporate them into a winning philosophy is not Jerry's niche.

In regards to Wade Phillips, he's got goose eggs all over his career playoff record as a HC as well. How are these 2 goose egg breeders going to change the current result over the last 13 seasons? So far I hear from them the way they approach the team and how they handle practices. Wow! San Fran has a rookie HC who is saying this team needs to move quick. 2 seasons and Bruce Read has been the ST's coach here. Brian Stewart is still a coach here. Cmon, change? At what pace? How bout we talk timelines too. Got that stadium pretty fast when he decided to turn it on.

 

[Hostile]

Stop being a bully. How many championships have we won post Jimmy? 1. With his players. How many playoff games post the Superbowl win with Jimmy's players? 1. How many years ago was that? 12.

I know he pays you to say these things.

Facts make me a bully? Then what does not having them make you?

 

[Jon88]

Facts make me a bully? Then what does not having them make you?

You tell me. Jerry sucks and you defend him.

 

[5Stars]

Stop being a bully. How many championships have we won post Jimmy? 1. With his players. How many playoff games post the Superbowl win with Jimmy's players? 1. How many years ago was that? 12.

I know he pays you to say these things.

If you really think all of your dislike for Jerry is going to make him go away, good luck!

 

[Jon88]

If you really think all of your dislike for Jerry is going to make him go away, good luck!

So since he isn't going away, I have to like him? Please.

 

[Hostile]

You tell me. Jerry sucks and you defend him.

Only from silly things that are not thought out.

 

[5Stars]

Not asking for Jerry to go away.


Cmon, change? At what pace? How bout we talk timelines too. Got that stadium pretty fast when he decided to turn it on.

Good things come to those that wait. Or, the bad stuff, too. You take what you take.

 

[Jon88]

Only from silly things that are not thought out.

Let me think. We haven't won a playoff game in 12 years. Yeah, he sucks.

 

[Hostile]

Let me think. We haven't won a playoff game in 12 years. Yeah, he sucks.

Yeah, that required a lot of "thought."

Color me unimpressed.

 

[5Stars]

So since he isn't going away, I have to like him? Please.

No you don't have to like him.

But guess what? Like it or not, you and the rest of us fans are stuck with him!




Anything else bothering you?

 

[OAM]

Jerry doesn't create the glam, the Cowboys do. The spotlight burns bright.

He won't sell it.

Try 100% of the time he has owned it. 75% of the time woudl be 15 years. Who was the GM the other 5 years?

More bad math. To reach 90% of the time we haven't won a playoff game in Jerry's 20 years as GM it would mean we haven't won on in 18 years instead of 12.

And still more bad math. It was "Jimmy's Team" for 25% of the time Jerry has been owner. 40% of Jimmy's year were championship years. We have won 3 Championships in Jerry's 20 years. 3 divided by 20 is 15%.

I did not get the calculator out and crunch the numbers exactly because I am just trying to get a point across. In regards to Jerry being the GM 75% of the time I know he has held the tiltle of GM 100 % but Jimmy was the real GM those 5 years and 15/20 = 75%. That one I don't need the calculator for .

When I bring up the not winning a playoff game 90% of the time in that 75% that is only winning playoff games in 94 and 95 the 2 years after Jimmy was gone and Jerry was the undisputed practicing GM of this team. So 2 years divided by 15 is pretty much 13.33333333333 etc playoff year winning % after unnecessarily pulling out a calculator for a measly 3%. What are we Paul brown over here nickle and diming, lol? That's with 2 years of Jimmy's left overs from the championship teams Jimmy built.

I don't believe Jerry would sell the team, Stephen will be controlling it when Jerry is done. But my perception if you look at the history and how Jerry has structured the GM position the odds selling the team are just as good as a GM coming in here with a different name than Jones under JJ's ownership. The odds of JJ working on a different lifetime and there being a non Jones GM is even better than the above mentioned circumstances.

So sorry if I offended anyone by not giving exact calculated %'s but I didn't think 3-5% would hurt anyone and above is my rational for deriving the %'s I did in the earlier post. I believe they are very valid on approximations.

 

[OAM]

Stop being a bully. How many championships have we won post Jimmy? 1. With his players. How many playoff games post the Superbowl win with Jimmy's players? 1. How many years ago was that? 12.

My exact sentiment. Thank you for simplifying it for me. It's at 13 season now we haven't won a playoff game :-(.

 

[Jon88]

My exact sentiment. Thank you for simplifying it for me. It's at 13 season now we haven't won a playoff game :-(.

No you don't have to like him.

But guess what? Like it or not, you and the rest of us fans are stuck with him!




Anything else bothering you?



Wow. He's been in some brawls before. Way to go. Well, I agree with you. Those are my sentiments. It's a shame that feeling that way isn't welcomed here.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Jerry admits he needs to change, so where's the change?

Holy moly the playoffs have not even started yet.

 

[Hostile]

No you don't have to like him.

But guess what? Like it or not, you and the rest of us fans are stuck with him!




Anything else bothering you?



Wow. He's been in some brawls before. Way to go. Well, I agree with you. Those are my sentiments. It's a shame that feeling that way isn't welcomed here.

Ya gotta love when people get disagreed with and think that means their opinions aren't welcome. Oh the drama.

 

[windward]

Ya gotta love when people get disagreed with and think that means their opinions aren't welcome. Oh the drama.

Crushing dissent again?