Jerry and Stephen disagree on Dak running? **merged**

[jnday]

Dak is sure not a franchise QB, so they need to to get production out of him in any way possible.

 

[JayFord]

Hes right...you run dak to set things up. You can literally run dak twice a game and make 20 other plays look like dak is about to run.....one thing about dak is you do have to respect his ability to run. Kind of like you have to respect wentz ability to run

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

So...in massively fewer words, someone of importance agrees with what I have been saying all along. You scheme to accentuate and utilize the skills of your play caller.

Wow. What a novel concept.

if you mean Jerry...then I not sure I would advertise that much....

 

[atlantacowboy]

Unless they hire a legit HC and stay the F out of the way.

I have little faith in that ever happening. Lack of success hasn't changed anything.

 

[Howboutdemcowboys31]

Here's the problem.

This offense likely will stall if you just make Prescott a pure pocket passer. Teams simply don't respect his ability to throw the ball. Further, teams simply crash Elliott. Essentially the belief is Prescott can't beat you with the pass so crash Elliott and really stall the offense.

Prescott running helps loosen things up for Elliott. And if Elliott can get going that helps the passing game.

I don't know about running 10 times a game with Prescott but Stephen seems to want to go in the opposite direction. 5-6 runs a game seems fair to me and likely will have it's desired effect.

This exactly. He doesn’t need to run as often as Scam but he has to some to keep the defense honest on us

 

[silvrNblue]

Ok, so my take on it is this, DP is NOT a pocket style passer, will he develop into one, who knows and only time will tell. What he is, is a running ROP QB, that's his game, you shackle him and we will se more losses less winning. Look back at ALL those other running QBs, Cunningham, Vick RG3 to name a few, remember what absolutely killed their careers, making them stand in the pocket and try to be a pure pocket passer.... its not going to happen, at least not this early in Dak's Career. Just look at Houston, Watson isn't running, there is no RPO in the game plan for him, and he looks totally lost behind center. No, we ain't got no Baker Mayfield guys, best we can hope for is he doesn't get a season ending injury...cause without him using his legs, this offense won't go no where soon...and yes, I guess that is a knock on Dak, but I ain't calling him a bum...

 

[KeepinTime]

I am on this Board because I am a fan. I like to post on this board. I am a CFA Charterholder and MBA. I make a great living. Not a billionaire but I am more than comfortable. I read that Lebron's IQ tested to be 76. Not sure if that is true. You ever listen to him speak? Guy contradicts himself in the same sentence. Lets cut to the chase - Lebron is famous because he can play basketball. He has had people kiss his butt since he was 8 years old. Problem is he now believes he is some God-like figure. What idiot calls himself the Chosen One. King James. An uber narcissist. As for Jerry - He is a marketing genius. He really is. Great oil man back in the day. Terrible GM. He has ruined this franchise.

You keep putting those turds on their pedestals. They love guys like you.

I’ll give ya that the guy has an ego the size of a continent but at the same time and I hate how he refers to himself in Godlike terms but he is an extremely smart businessman. You don’t build an empire like his if you’re below average intelligence. Got this from an article on LBJ —“LeBron James has not submitted any official IQ test results. However, his grades in school suggest that he was in the normal average range of student IQs (95 to 110).”

 

[FTWayne]

I want my qb to win with his arm and head. A deadly decision passer with good arm strength and a field general and tactician on the field.

I agree.

 

[willia451]

run to keep the opposing defense honest, but I don't want Dak dinged either...the season is LOST if he goes down....there is ZERO talent behind him at QB

So? The season is lost if he doesn't.

 

[sureletsrace]

Let him run. He's a big dude. As big or bigger than a RB. He can take it.

 

[FTWayne]

like a moth to a flame.

 

[IceBowler]

Pick his spots. Let it be known that he will run and that it's a component of the offense. He does not have the arm to take over a game but ... the threat of his running (which he does very well), will make it much easier for him to throw. I watched all the while he was Moo U in Starkville. It's certainly harder to do in the pros and that's why I say, pick your spots. The RPO is excellent as Dak is very comfortable in it - Just don't overdo.

 

[CWR]

https://247sports.com/nfl/dallas-co...s-disagree-on-Dak-Prescott-running-122181128/
interesting quote

"...Now here is where things get interesting. Cowboys VP and Jones' eventual successor Stephen Jones went on his radio show on 105.3 The Fan on Monday (h/t Jon Machota of The Dallas Morning News) and sang a very different tune. He said “You can’t just consistently serve your quarterback up as a runner... I can’t necessarily see our plan being to run Dak 8-10 times a game. I think you use it to set everything else up.” Essentially, this suggests a philosophical schism between the two leaders of the Jones family. The patriarch wants Prescott to run so that the Cowboys can win now. The successor wants Prescott to stay in the pocket to preserve his health. ..."


the more Dak runs, the more you put him in line of getting hit and injured. win now? maybe 5 or 6 games...and get Dak hurt.... I don't advocate running the QB....except very selectively and not every week.

Its not like we are protecting Aaron Rodgers here. Sorry but for Dak to be a good qb he also has to use his wheels. Dont take away one of his best skills in order to preserve mediocre play.

 

[CowboyStar88]

Going to block you after this because you annoy me. Go back to my original post. I mentioned it but I said I don't know it to be true. Idiots like you will spin that into a narrative that fits you best.

Oh this is gold! You’re gonna block them because you made something up and got caught. This is hilarious!

 

[Cmac]

Stephen scares me too.

 

[vlad]

There is no point in preserving his future if he's unable to play successfully in that style of play.

 

[vlad]

Stephen scares me too.

I've beating this drum for a while, and I'm not alarmist. I guess I was just hoping for a different approach.

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

I would let Dak run on every play ... If he takes the option .

Yeah ... im good with that .

He is heavy and fast , i doubt he gets easily injured .

 

[buybuydandavis]

the more Dak runs, the more you put him in line of getting hit and injured. win now? maybe 5 or 6 games...and get Dak hurt.... I don't advocate running the QB....except very selectively and not every week.

Dak ran a lot in college and didn't get hurt. He's built like a LB and has all the protections of a QB when he runs in the NFL. In actual run plays, he runs judiciously and conservatively.

He's good at the read option. If we don't use it, we're not getting all we can out of him.

We've got a running QB. We should use him as such. If all we want is a pocket QB, Dak is the wrong guy to be giving snaps to.

 

[DandyDon52]

https://247sports.com/nfl/dallas-co...s-disagree-on-Dak-Prescott-running-122181128/
interesting quote

"...Now here is where things get interesting. Cowboys VP and Jones' eventual successor Stephen Jones went on his radio show on 105.3 The Fan on Monday (h/t Jon Machota of The Dallas Morning News) and sang a very different tune. He said “You can’t just consistently serve your quarterback up as a runner... I can’t necessarily see our plan being to run Dak 8-10 times a game. I think you use it to set everything else up.” Essentially, this suggests a philosophical schism between the two leaders of the Jones family. The patriarch wants Prescott to run so that the Cowboys can win now. The successor wants Prescott to stay in the pocket to preserve his health. ..."


the more Dak runs, the more you put him in line of getting hit and injured. win now? maybe 5 or 6 games...and get Dak hurt.... I don't advocate running the QB....except very selectively and not every week.

I think you use it to set everything else up.”.......what does that mean ?? lol 1.2.3.4.5.6.7.8.9.10 times a game??
2 runs a qtr = 8 lol

Here is the deal, first this shows who the head coaches really are! the jones boys !!
first stevie says dont run, then says use it to set other stuff up lol , how would you like to coach for him??

Now IMO a QB can get hurt in behind the line just as much as running with the ball.
if a QB is smart and coaches keep on him about running safe, it is actually much safer than dropping back to pass.
They have to slide or run out of bounds, and avoid the contact.
Dak had at least 2 runs where he did not avoid contact not smart, but coaches can correct that.
Wentz got hurt not avoiding contact, he thought he was a RB, same for RG3.

Dak needs to run from the pocket and on that rpo they were using with giants.

but since stevie is running the show, and JG will do what he wants with no question dak may not run at all this next game
Which is just plain stupid.
Running is part of Daks skillset to not let him use that defangs him.

I was going to pick dallas to win, but after reading this may have to change that to Seattle..