Jerry and Stephen disagree on Dak running? **merged**

[OmerV]

Woulda coulda shoulda

Stephen begin pinching pennies after 2014 season with Leary and Murray. Our OL still hadn’t recovered and we had to use a 5th overall pick to shore up a running game with what was heralded best OL .

I still think cutting Bailey will cost us this year. And we should have negotiated with Dez offering him less. We didn’t even make an offer.

And if we end up coughing big money and years for Dak it could stifle this franchise for another era. Tick Tock

I didn't point out ET and Watkins to say they had been successful, I was merely pointing out they were willing. You had indicated no willingness.

Let me ask you this - would you rather have Leary or Martin, Frederick and Smith? Obviously the Cowboys would like to have kept Leary, but there is a limit to how much money can be used on one unit. Plus, remember that at the time they didn't realize Free was going to retire, so they though they had Collins ready to step in. In any case, if a team sinks all its money into the O-Line, how much is left for other areas? The Cowboys dished out big money to Frederick and Smith and knew Martin's contract was coming up too. An NFL team doesn't get to just look at the moment and not consider other contracts that are coming up, but fans don't have to bother with that so they can just allocate money any way they can imagine.

As for Dak, don't start pinning something on the team that hasn't happened. Dak is at least a year away from a decision needing to be made, and possibly even longer than that. Besides, isn't a little funny you are on the one hand calling the team cheap, and on the other hand complaining that the team will spend too much on Dak?

Again, I agree that the team has gone a little too conservative with signing free agents from other teams, but it's a bit understandable given the way the team had screwed itself in the past by handing out too many big contracts. It's just a matter of figuring out the middle ground.

 

[Bobhaze]

Jerry and Stephen have only had three decades to learn how to manage the football product on the field. Let’s continue to be patient. LOL! Gag.

Seriously, the Jones boys are experts on how to make a buck from everything from parking spaces, official product sponsors and everything else imaginable. But you can’t tell me they know “S from shinola” when it comes to building a playoff winning roster.

Stephen may be better than Jerry. But that’s a pretty low bar.

 

[OmerV]

Jerry and Stephen have only had three decades to learn how to manage the football product on the field. Let’s continue to be patient. LOL! Gag.

Seriously, the Jones boys are experts on how to make a buck from everything from parking spaces, official product sponsors and everything else imaginable. But you can’t tell me they know “S from shinola” when it comes to building a playoff winning roster.

Stephen may be better than Jerry. But that’s a pretty low bar.

Granted, but at the end of the day, it took the team almost 20 years to figure out how to get out of the salary cap bind they put themselves in, and it's only been a couple of years that they have been more conservative. It's obvious they are going to be picky about when to spend money on free agents from other teams, which in and of itself is a good idea, but I think they have been a little too careful. They did a little more this offseason than last, and were willing to spend more, so hopefully they are honing in on how to walk the line between spending and over spending.

 

[Bobhaze]

Granted, but at the end of the day, it took the team almost 20 years to figure out how to get out of the salary cap bind they put themselves in, and it's only been a couple of years that they have been more conservative. It's obvious they are going to be picky about when to spend money on free agents from other teams, which in and of itself is a good idea, but I think they have been a little too careful. They did a little more this offseason than last, and were willing to spend more, so hopefully they are honing in on how to walk the line between spending and over spending.

Good points O. For me, bottom line is “It’s time to win- put up or shut up” or get somebody in here that knows what they’re doing. Because the Jones boys have only proven they know how to make money. Building a winner on the field is apparently almost impossible for those two.

 

[OmerV]

Good points O. For me, bottom line is “It’s time to win- put up or shut up” or get somebody in here that knows what they’re doing. Because the Jones boys have only proven they know how to make money. Building a winner on the field is apparently almost impossible for those two.

Unfortunately the Jones cannot be fired, so we are stuck with them. If they decide to change head coaches, I'm okay with that.

 

[morat1959]

How about let the coaches decide and stay out of their business?

This doesn’t seem to work either. We’ve tried it for 20+ years.

 

[morat1959]

Huh?

Lol

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Nice stat when he rushes for 25 or more yards.....

Get we need to see where Garret stands on this...

Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones disagree on Dak Prescott running

https://247sports.com/nfl/dallas-co...s-disagree-on-Dak-Prescott-running-122181128/
BySAM QUINN Sep 19, 4:26 PM
Dak Prescott ran for 19 yards in the Dallas Cowboys' opening week loss to the Carolina Panthers. They scored eight points in that game. He ran for 46 yards in their Week 2 win over the New York Giants. The Cowboys scored 20 points in that game. These numbers hold to a very strict trend. Prescott has run for more than 25 yards in a game 12 times in his career. The Cowboys are 10-2 in those games, and the two losses came last season, once in a game in which Tyron Smith, Ezekiel Elliott, Sean Lee and Chidobe Awuziecombined for eight snaps, and another in which Jason Garrett mismanaged the clock to lose the game, but the Cowboys still scored 31 points. He has run for 25 or fewer years in 23 times in his career. The Cowboys are 13-10 in those matchups. The data doesn't lie. The Cowboys are a significantly better team when Prescott runs.

 

[Roadtrip635]

Just like anything else, we have to utilize the weapons and skillsets of our players more effectively.

 

[OmerV]

Already a thread on this, and the title and conclusion set out by the writer is less than accurate. They may have slightly different thoughts on how often Dak should run, but both Stephen and Jerry agree running is an element of Daks game that needs to be used.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Sorry for repost.....as aways, I checked front page but not second (LOL)

 

[Bleu Star]

In before the merge.

 

[Bleu Star]

https://247sports.com/nfl/dallas-co...s-disagree-on-Dak-Prescott-running-122181128/
interesting quote

"...Now here is where things get interesting. Cowboys VP and Jones' eventual successor Stephen Jones went on his radio show on 105.3 The Fan on Monday (h/t Jon Machota of The Dallas Morning News) and sang a very different tune. He said “You can’t just consistently serve your quarterback up as a runner... I can’t necessarily see our plan being to run Dak 8-10 times a game. I think you use it to set everything else up.” Essentially, this suggests a philosophical schism between the two leaders of the Jones family. The patriarch wants Prescott to run so that the Cowboys can win now. The successor wants Prescott to stay in the pocket to preserve his health. ..."


the more Dak runs, the more you put him in line of getting hit and injured. win now? maybe 5 or 6 games...and get Dak hurt.... I don't advocate running the QB....except very selectively and not every week.

So...in massively fewer words, someone of importance agrees with what I have been saying all along. You scheme to accentuate and utilize the skills of your play caller.

Wow. What a novel concept.

 

[Chrispierce]

I want Dak running more. Not a lot,just when it’s there take it.

 

[HungryLion]

Did I say I believe it? I said I read it and don't know if it is true. So try reading my post again. I do listen to his press conferences and marvel at how stupid he sounds.

Yet here you are criticizing him for having an ego?

Hmm

 

[atlantacowboy]

Its rare for the siblings to get along after Daddy passes. Why would they agree to let Stephen run the team ? And if he doesn’t have success how long would they stand by his side?

This isn't your ordinary family either. The league demands succession plans from its owners. Whats going to happen to the Dallas Cowboys upon Jerry's death was worked out in 1989. We don't know the exact details but its pretty clear that little will change.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jerry-jones-on-cowboys-succession-plan-i-dont-ever-want-to-quit/

 

[ClintDagger]

You have to smart about when you run him. But the reality is there will be games where you will need him to run a lot in order to give yourself a chance to win. Placing him in bubble wrap and running him very rarely is probably a recipe for a ceiling season of 8-8. Yes running him a lot risks injury and therefore a disastrous season. But I think any scenario where Dallas is a high win total team includes games where you put Dak at risk of injury 10+ times a game with designed runs. The offensive personnel around him is going to dictate that higher risk approach.

 

[Diehardblues]

This isn't your ordinary family either. The league demands succession plans from its owners. Whats going to happen to the Dallas Cowboys upon Jerry's death was worked out in 1989. We don't know the exact details but its pretty clear that little will change.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jerry-jones-on-cowboys-succession-plan-i-dont-ever-want-to-quit/

It’s been a long time but if I recall correctly it goes to his wife.

 

[cern]

Baker was awesome last night. Those passes bro. Wooooooh. Wish Dak had that aspect

That was an impressive performance. Rifle arm and highly accurate. No team in history has blown more high qb drafts. The blind squirrel finally found the nut.

 

[cern]

I understand, and you are right that there would have been posters responding as if you had put Dak in the same category as Roger. And yes, Roger did frustrate Landry early on - "Roger the Dodger" didn't come out of Staubach staying in the pocket and sticking to the script.

He got the name while at the naval academy.