Jerry: Give McCarthy his due

[Reid1boys]

So, praising the head coach of your 2-0 team is bad.

Pretty sure you would complain about anything Jerry said … and if he didn’t say anything, you’d complain about that

winner winner winner

 

[Pass2Run]

I was supporting McCarthy when Jerry was making it sound like McCarthy was the problem and may not be in the job long.

McCarthy is like Kellen Moore. Their personalities are the alpha dog's worst enemy, because they don't need to talk and convince you they're good. They're going to show you, and let their work to the talking. I"m not saying Moore or McCarthy are comparable. Just that that's the personality type. Kellen Moore will be in the league for a long time, and McCarthy has the benefit of experience, and a top-tier QB, although by no means perfect. You're telling me Cousins is better than Dak? I just can't have a serious conversation with anyone who can't see the difference.

But back to my point. Sure, have an alpha dog defensive chess piece who can play any position on the defense at a Pro Bowl level, and would be a HOF at most any position he played. Parsons isn't just as good as LT; he's even better.

If Parsons can have a 10-year-long career, and keep getting better and better, he could be the best player to ever play the game — and take the crown as possibly even the best player to ever have played. I know that's what they were saying in the Trolling the Nation BTB article, but watching him on tape . . . he doesn't look human.

As for a head coach, you want a Sigma personality, because Sigma's really don't give a rats what Jerry says. They are adept a beating alpha's and don't need the credit, which is why he can work with someone like Jerry Jones. It's all good, if the personalities work out. But I believe McCarthy invests so much energy, putting up with Jerry, he never had the time to invest in a relationship with Kellen Moore. Either way, McCarthy has been stellar. And doing it rather quietly, with his hat pulled down low over his eyes, head down, head in the game, grinding it out, and showing up to execute the plan. That's what I"m impressed by: the dynamic we've got going on.
That's why this year is different. The only team that worries me is . . . San Fransisco, which is what I've been saying for the past 3-4 years, especially last year. I really couldn't tell who was a better team. But the jump Parsons appears to have taken this offseason. His process, as Quinn says.. Wow.

The players, on their respective teams, CAN get more endorsements staying with a team that has a high-paying label, and the Cowboys have just that. We have a player who, no matter if we beat the other team, their opposing fans still leave with a smile on their faces, thinking Damn, Parsons is the Best I've Ever seen, or one of them. And that's a win. It's a fun time to be a Cowboys fan. For the next FEW years.

 

[VaqueroTD]

“Give ol’ Jerry a fist bump. I once again GM’d the hell out of it! No one though Coach Mac was good for anything other than the buffet line at Pancho’s and I proved them all wrong!“

 

[CCBoy]

McCarthy is like Kellen Moore. Their personalities are the alpha dog's worst enemy, because they don't need to talk and convince you they're good. They're going to show you, and let their work to the talking. I"m not saying Moore or McCarthy are comparable. Just that that's the personality type. Kellen Moore will be in the league for a long time, and McCarthy has the benefit of experience, and a top-tier QB, although by no means perfect. You're telling me Cousins is better than Dak? I just can't have a serious conversation with anyone who can't see the difference.

But back to my point. Sure, have an alpha dog defensive chess piece who can play any position on the defense at a Pro Bowl level, and would be a HOF at most any position he played. Parsons isn't just as good as LT; he's even better.

If Parsons can have a 10-year-long career, and keep getting better and better, he could be the best player to ever play the game — and take the crown as possibly even the best player to ever have played. I know that's what they were saying in the Trolling the Nation BTB article, but watching him on tape . . . he doesn't look human.

As for a head coach, you want a Sigma personality, because Sigma's really don't give a rats what Jerry says. They are adept a beating alpha's and don't need the credit, which is why he can work with someone like Jerry Jones. It's all good, if the personalities work out. But I believe McCarthy invests so much energy, putting up with Jerry, he never had the time to invest in a relationship with Kellen Moore. Either way, McCarthy has been stellar. And doing it rather quietly, with his hat pulled down low over his eyes, head down, head in the game, grinding it out, and showing up to execute the plan. That's what I"m impressed by: the dynamic we've got going on.
That's why this year is different. The only team that worries me is . . . San Fransisco, which is what I've been saying for the past 3-4 years, especially last year. I really couldn't tell who was a better team. But the jump Parsons appears to have taken this offseason. His process, as Quinn says.. Wow.

The players, on their respective teams, CAN get more endorsements staying with a team that has a high-paying label, and the Cowboys have just that. We have a player who, no matter if we beat the other team, their opposing fans still leave with a smile on their faces, thinking Damn, Parsons is the Best I've Ever seen, or one of them. And that's a win. It's a fun time to be a Cowboys fan. For the next FEW years.

Jerry is NOT the problem for the coaches or players. Period. He creates a rewarding and supportive environment. All like playing in Dallas, even with a boat load of complaining unthankfuls to go around.

 

[Diehardblues]

It’s not all about talent! Your second sentence contradicts your first sentence.

Coaching Matters a lot. McCarthy is taking into account the whole team when he calls plays on O. Kellon Moore never did that!

Yes , it matters but the talent we have added is the difference .

Tell me why some of the greatest coaches in NFL history didn’t have as much success at other teams .

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Never understood the criticism of McCarthy. He has done a great job with this team.

Exactly, he's been a great coach for us. I'm glad that he's our coach.

 

[Diehardblues]

I agree. You don't win the Kentucky Derby on a donkey.

There’s a reason no HC has ever won a SB at another venue .

Some great names out there like Vince Lombardi, Don Shula, Bill Belichick, Jimmy Johnson.., the list goes on. I could make an entire thread about it.

Great coaching can make a difference and optimize along with gathering talent but ultimately it’s all about the talent at this level.

Coaching helps but what are we without the talent this franchise has acquired in last 3 years?

 

[Diehardblues]

Diehardblues, Jerry is 80 years old and I don't think he has the energy to be subversive. He is no modern day Nicolo Machiavelli.

Ownership and figurehead general managing has given him a platform to do what he loves to do and that is to be the Cowboys chief spin doctor in the media.

Jethro is much more that . Yes, he’s only a part time GM , doesn’t watch much video , etc which is how he’s always operated.

Whether he has the energy or not , he thinks he does . That’s how narcissistic behavior operates. They think are going to live forever.

And I’d agree it has provided him a platform. Media and otherwise to be a celebrity football guy and ultimately face of this franchise.

 

[RS12]

Can i give McCarthy his due in February?

 

[Daillest88]

Definitely liking this offense.. more reps and we will be more explosive.. can’t wait tk get Tyler smith back

 

[DandyDon52]

The bigger point is why is it necessary .

Jerry thinks us and the media, and all the twitter clowns, cant see what a wonderful job mike has done.
Were not super smart like jerry is.

 

[DandyDon52]

Can i give McCarthy his due in February?

there you go lets do all that after the SB. Makes more sense than
after 2 frickin games against the giants and jets !
one thing is certain Dallas is dominating the state of NY ! ( their nfl teams)

 

[Mark]

...one thing is certain Dallas is dominating the state of NY ! ( their nfl teams)

With a meeting in Buffalo scheduled for Dec. 17 (the only true "New York" team).

 

[DandyDon52]

Here is how I see it, Mike didnt want kellen , jerry did, so mike mailed it in for 3 years , to get rid of kellen.
Now Mike is doing what he could have done years ago, but now he will get all the credit !(egos lol) And maybe him and kellen
did not work well together who knows..
So it is jerrys fault this didnt happen in 21, but then he dumps kellen, and we get what many expected to begin with, which is mike
running his own offense and calling his own plays, and something that will work with (you know who).

plus the big thing is jerry hiring dan quinn back in 21, this gave us a defense unlike we ever had with garrett and romo.
I bet those 2 would love to have had this defense ?? 2014 and 2016 playoffs might have went different with this defense dont you think ??
So to me it isnt so much about mike and his offense, as it is Dan and his defense, and of course parsons and getting lucky drafting him too.

Mike has it easy, just dont make mistakes on offense, score some points, and you win. pretty simple job.
The first 2 games cowboys only had to score 0 points to win first game, as the defense also scored all the points they would need to win,and did it early.
The 2nd game all they needed was 11 points total to win that one , real hard.

So some of you are crediting mike and new offense with winning games, and it isnt the offense it is the defense winning the games.

Next is arizona, who will play hard, but they cant score on our defense either so.....
Then the niners, and rams, and that is where we will see if they can handle our defense, and if our offense actually has to help win the game.
Those 2 games will be interesting.

 

[Verdict]

Meanwhile, the Sean Payton led Broncos are 0-2. Payton, who everyone wanted, whose resume was virtually no better than McCarthy.

I'm a McCarthy fan - he's done an amazing job with this team from the day her arrived (bolstered by adding Quinn and Parsons no doubt, but still great coaching).

I am very impressed with MM’s ability to get reserves to play at a very high level.

 

[75boyz]

Here is how I see it, Mike didnt want kellen , jerry did, so mike mailed it in for 3 years , to get rid of kellen.
Now Mike is doing what he could have done years ago, but now he will get all the credit !(egos lol) And maybe him and kellen
did not work well together who knows..
So it is jerrys fault this didnt happen in 21, but then he dumps kellen, and we get what many expected to begin with, which is mike
running his own offense and calling his own plays, and something that will work with (you know who).

plus the big thing is jerry hiring dan quinn back in 21, this gave us a defense unlike we ever had with garrett and romo.
I bet those 2 would love to have had this defense ?? 2014 and 2016 playoffs might have went different with this defense dont you think ??
So to me it isnt so much about mike and his offense, as it is Dan and his defense, and of course parsons and getting lucky drafting him too.

Mike has it easy, just dont make mistakes on offense, score some points, and you win. pretty simple job.
The first 2 games cowboys only had to score 0 points to win first game, as the defense also scored all the points they would need to win,and did it early.
The 2nd game all they needed was 11 points total to win that one , real hard.

So some of you are crediting mike and new offense with winning games, and it isnt the offense it is the defense winning the games.

Next is arizona, who will play hard, but they cant score on our defense either so.....
Then the niners, and rams, and that is where we will see if they can handle our defense, and if our offense actually has to help win the game.
Those 2 games will be interesting.

Nice post. I agree with you.
My earlier post supports yours here as well.
l will make it even more simple.
And that is : Which head coaches could do an equal or better job with their team success as McCarthy has done here after drafting the generational talent of Micah and having Quinn as his DC?

Micah' has quickly become an entire team changer with almost as much impact as a true franchise QB. Not quite. But almost.
This generation's LT.
So far.

So with that being said, you most likely could make a decent list of coaches that could achieve similar or better success with Micah as McCarthy has done if Micah was on their dee and Quinn was coaching it.

jmo

 

[plasticman]

We would love to Jerry. However, for some reason, you are always in the way.

 

[DandyDon52]

Nice post. I agree with you.
My earlier post supports yours here as well.
l will make it even more simple.
And that is : Which head coaches could do an equal or better job with their team success as McCarthy has done here after drafting the generational talent of Micah and having Quinn as his DC?

Micah' has quickly become an entire team changer with almost as much impact as a true franchise QB. Not quite. But almost.
This generation's LT.
So far.

So with that being said, you most likely could make a decent list of coaches that could achieve similar or better success with Micah as McCarthy has done if Micah was on their dee and Quinn was coaching it.

jmo

agreed, I think mike has done little till this off season.
jerry letting kellen go, meant mike could do what he wants on offense, and jerry wants results.
So mike has changed some things to help you know who, and also to create a conservative offense to compliment quinns defense.
It isnt that the offense will be high scoring or great, the idea is just dont turn it over, and eat the clock.

I am curious if mike will stray from this formula, as it seemed he did a little in the jets game.

 

[75boyz]

agreed, I think mike has done little till this off season.
jerry letting kellen go, meant mike could do what he wants on offense, and jerry wants results.
So mike has changed some things to help you know who, and also to create a conservative offense to compliment quinns defense.
It isnt that the offense will be high scoring or great, the idea is just dont turn it over, and eat the clock.

I am curious if mike will stray from this formula, as it seemed he did a little in the jets game.

Yes. To all of this. I'm curious to see if the QB's ego can remain in check if an even more conservative gameplan is called.
And then if McCarthy himself can continue to call a close to the vest risk averse style.

If both the QB and the HC can put their egos aside and continue to let the defense run the show, there will be beyond division round post season success imo.

If either one of them or both gets too full of himself and starts pressing or forcing things, then we will end up back where we've been the last 28 years.

jmo

 

[Cowboys5217]

I have to give the entire front office their due on finding talent. Most acknowledge that we have drafted above average in the McCarthy era, but our UDFA game is maybe the best in the NFL. Last season and this year has produced a UDFA gold mine: Bell, Hendershot, Thomas, Sea Bass, & Luepke.

Throw in that the Jonesboys mined one of the best gems out the USFL in Turpin, & also Brandon Aubrey who came from pro soccer via the USFL-Cowboys pipeline.

The trades have produced: Cooks, Gilmore, Igbinoghene, & possible future prospect Lance.

For the first time in decades I am throwing Jerry a wink and a finger point right back at him. Top notch job the last two off seasons.