Jerry is PO'ed

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He's got leverage right up until the point that he realizes 1) the FO doesn't have to do anything 2) no play = no pay 3) he can't accrue toward free agency & 4) ownership & fans P.O.'d doesn't bode well for his future.

In other words if he gets stubborn he is taking a short walk off an even shorter plank.
That sentence doesn't happen to best players on respective teams let alone elite players in the league.
 

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That’s a legitimate concern but you’re more concerned about it than I am. I think would be fine going RB by committee this year and drafting a RB next year and save the money to keep our D together (which I think is very close to being elite) and maybe even pick up a defensive FA or two.
They didn't draft an elite bell cow at number 4 to have a RBBC...they tried RBBC and saw the failure. Which is why they built the offense mirroring the team of the 90s. Run the ball and wear your opponent down.
 

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One good season doesn't make you elite. Ask Dak.

Murray followed that up by having another 1,300 yard season for the Titans.

And you know what else doesn't make you "elite"? Stepping into the perfect role. In a running game that already made two guys before you.
 

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"Emmitt Smith is a luxury, not a necessity." - Emmitt Smith holdout.

"We had a very similar back [to Murray]. As we sit here today, I feel very good about where we are at running back." - On starting "Klepto" Joseph Randle

Jerry consistently overvalues WR and under alues RB. If the Cowboys want a Super Bowl, they must have Zeke, baggage and all.
 

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Murray followed that up by having another 1,300 yard season for the Titans.

And you know what else doesn't make you "elite"? Stepping into the perfect role. In a running game that already made two guys before you.
Or fumbling while stepping into a perfect hole. ;)
 

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The Fan reported that Jerry was completed caught off guard by the Zeke holdout and is severely ticked off.

They pointed to the amount of support the team had given settle in numerous off-field issues, including perhaps some we don't know about.

This could get pretty ugly.

I have felt since this hold-out first came to light that Dallas could move him. Dallas has had to clean up numerous issues behind the scenes to present Zeke as innocent. This is on top of Stephen already being on record of not wanting to pay big 2nd contracts to RB. What really messed this up was that Dallas used such a high draft pick for RB. I still think there is possibility he gets traded around the draft. Also, its bad precedence for players to start holding out, neg contract with still 2 years remaining on it. Guys like Cooper, Dak, Jones and others played into final year until resigning.
 

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The issue is Elliott has no leverage, which means this is just spiteful.

Well he does have leverage in sense that there is no statistical data that Dallas is good football team without him. Now we can all have a feeling that Dak & Defense are ascending talents but we have not seen Dak carry this team and we have seen this defense is not nearly as good when there isn't RB who gobbles up time of possession and keeps them off field. This is why I really felt Dallas should have gone for RB in draft (round 3?) because I didn't trust putting entire team season on shoulders of guy who clearly has major maturity issues.
 

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That’s fine as long as your prepared for the consequences of this season and potential fallouts as a result.
I am indeed, to the tune of $400 of we don’t win the Super Bowl and we’ll be much better off for it in the future.
 

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Seriously? You're going to get that desperate?
:omg:
I'm not desperate but have no reason to argue about if Zeke is elite or not. Reminds me of the argument of Emmitt being elite or better than Barry. Zeke has been elite at every level, won a championship at every level outside of the NFL, was a standout track athlete, and his measurables of being elite are backed by scouts, current players, former players, coaches, former coaches, and the stats he puts up. Yes he has a great line a line built for running the ball I've never once said this isn't the case. Doesn't take away Zeke's body of work or what makes him elite. With all that I think the kid is a dufas and his timing is puzzling regarding this holdout...but like I wrote in a different thread yesterday this has the feel of more than just a Zeke thing. Gurley, Bell, Gordon, and now Zeke. The current elite RB core is making a statement about what they feel they deserve.
 

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They didn't draft an elite bell cow at number 4 to have a RBBC...they tried RBBC and saw the failure. Which is why they built the offense mirroring the team of the 90s. Run the ball and wear your opponent down.
This isn’t early 90’s football anymore and there is a salary cap. Not to mention, in 2015 we were 9th in rushing and only had .2 less yards per carry then the following year with Zeke.
 

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This isn’t early 90’s football anymore and there is a salary cap. Not to mention, in 2015 we were 9th in rushing and only had .2 less yards per carry then the following year with Zeke.
I understand all that but this offense was built in the same likeness as that team. The only thing Red has actually done right. Mimic the team he played on and how they won games. Running the ball with an elite Rb and where the opposing teams defense down, and most important keeping the boys defense off the field. It is what it is, hopefully it gets resolved soon so we can read and chat about what is happening on the field.
 

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I'm not desperate but have no reason to argue about if Zeke is elite or not.

Sure looks like it when you have to bring up one fumble.

Reminds me of the argument of Emmitt being elite or better than Barry. Zeke has been elite at every level, won a championship at every level outside of the NFL, was a standout track athlete, and his measurables of being elite are backed by scouts, current players, former players, coaches, former coaches, and the stats he puts up. Yes he has a great line a line built for running the ball I've never once said this isn't the case. Doesn't take away Zeke's body of work or what makes him elite. With all that I think the kid is a dufas and his timing is puzzling regarding this holdout...but like I wrote in a different thread yesterday this has the feel of more than just a Zeke thing. Gurley, Bell, Gordon, and now Zeke. The current elite RB core is making a statement about what they feel they deserve.

That’s too bad. The league has spoken about what they’re willing to pay the position. If he doesn’t like it, he can find another line of work.
 

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The Fan reported that Jerry was completed caught off guard by the Zeke holdout and is severely ticked off.

They pointed to the amount of support the team had given settle in numerous off-field issues, including perhaps some we don't know about.

This could get pretty ugly.
How about
Titan's S Kevin Byard and RB Derrick Henry for Zeke
:popcorn:
 

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Murray followed that up by having another 1,300 yard season for the Titans.

And you know what else doesn't make you "elite"? Stepping into the perfect role. In a running game that already made two guys before you.

You got it.

Murray may go down as the most disrespected Cowboy in history.

Demarco raised this offensive line. In 2012 he played behind a line composed of 5 starters that had never played their position in the NFL. Smith and Free had just switched sides.

Two seasons later he broke the Cowboy single season rushing record.

During the 4 seasons he was a Cowboy he was their 3rd leading receiver and an excellent blocker.

Jerry low balled him on a contract offer and only raised it when other teams showed interest but the damage was done. He signed with the Eagles who ended up screwing him. They only wanted him because it weakened the Cowboys.

Chemistry involves some very complex and sensitive reactions between all the ingredients. It is so difficult to find. The best discoveries are often by accident. Jimmy Johnson never wanted emmitt Smith, settled on him when his guy was taken. That is how precarious greatness can be.

The Cowboys had it in 2014. However in the end, Jerry screwed it all up. That is how his lack of football instincts effects the team. He has some good attributes but recognizing his shortcomings has never been one of them.
 

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That sentence doesn't happen to best players on respective teams let alone elite players in the league.
Seems like it happened to Lev Bell. Lost a year's wages to come back and take a deal that was equal or marginally better than what he could have had. Right?

Cowboys can do whatever they want. If things get to that point, yes they would probably trade him but if they got stubborn they could end his career. Or they could trade him to an undesirable team which would also in many ways end his career.

Point being, he should take whatever pay increase \ guaranteed monies he can get without going down a road that turns ugly.
 
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