Jerry Jones Doesn't Expect Cowboys To Be Big Spenders In Free Agency

[Nightman]

I think Ware left a situation that was bad for him -- a defense that was over-reliant on his aging, injury prone body -- and left it for one where he isn't even the best pass rusher on the team. He can miss a month, and they don't miss a beat; but when he's in there opposite Von, they become a wrecking crew up front.

Fast forward to next offseason. If he returned here, he'd return to the same situation he left. I don't think it'd be a good fit for either side. His body can't handle being the primary pass rusher any longer.

DEN overpaid for what they got but they got the ring so its all good

 

[waving monkey]

This is posturing and I believe they will spend on at least one higher profile defensive FA. We are so close to having as complete a team you could have this day and age in the NFL - good drafting on D this off-season and some wise FA spending wouldn't be bad business.

you may be right but I'll take that bet

 

[Nightman]

Teams miss in the draft as often as in UFA but no one ever advocates skipping out on the draft

Teams are built thru the Draft, FA and trades and none of them should be abandoned or neglected just because they made mistakes in the past

They just have to make good choices no matter the method.......missing on a 1st round draft pick is just as bad as a bad FA...........Claiborne and Carr really hurt us but now they are helpful because their costs are a lot lower

 

[Clove]

If I'm Jones, I go get the baddest edge rusher out there, and that's that. I don't care how much it cost, because you can't put a price on a Championship. But right now, it seems like Jones is getting a head of himself again. He's feeling like we have the Super Bowl wrapped up.

 

[drawandstrike]

We went the FA route with the OLine from 2005 until 2011. Instead of building patiently through the draft, they brought in guys like Leonard Davis, Marco Rivera, Kyle Kosier, Marc Columbo....

Some worked out, most didn't. And as late as 2011 Jerry was still bragging on how he was finding 'diamonds' in the UDRFA pile for the OLIne, with guys like Kevin Kowalski and Phil Costa.

We wasted YEARS until somebody convinced Jerry building through the draft was the way to go on the OLine.

It only took 4 drafts to build that line up and add depth. We can do the same thing the next 3-4 drafts for the defensive line.

 

[guag]

Giants spend $200 million on a defense and it is not even Top 5 in the league. It can still be gashed for big plays. FA is not the answer.

Yup, just ask the Commanders who went after pretty much every big name free agent on the market for a number of years, only to get them literally nowhere.

 

[drawandstrike]

Yup, just ask the Commanders who went after pretty much every big name free agent on the market for a number of years, only to get them literally nowhere.

I was excited every year to see just how much $$$ Daniel Snyder was gonna dump on guys like Fat Albert Haynesworth.

 

[Trouty]

I don't have a problem with this.

Quite frankly in the real position of need, a pass-rushing 4-3 DE, the barrel of free-agency is relatively empty in the coming offseason.

Except for a chap named JPP...

 

[WillieBeamen]

Cant believe most of you dont want us to pick up an elite edge rusher in free agency


Do yall really want to go in to another season with 0 pass rush

 

[Trouty]

That's how the perennial contenders do things.

With all due respect, Guag, my bro, it isn't.

 

[Trouty]

JPP is gonna command big $$$...even with the injury. No thanks

Also, whether it be suspensions or injury issues, we haven't had much luck on our DLine availability. Need someone who can be a consistent performer on the field and JPP isn't that.

I'd see if I can get JPP for something like 12 AAV @ 5 w 26-28 guar. He sets the edge. Put him at RDE and Tank at left. Then draft DE high the next two years, so as JPP ages, he can be a situational rusher.

 

[Trouty]

Will command way too much coin.

We don't know exactly what he will command, and what is "way too much coin"?

 

[Trouty]

Doesn't mean Dallas won't sign anybody, but they will be much more focused on resigning their own guys. I could see them getting another Cedric Thornton type signing, but they aren't going to spend 10+ million on someone. They want to save that money for their own guys in the future, rather than overpay for someone another team was willing to let go.

Cedric Thornton, heading into this season, was a very similar/equivalent player to JPP is at End. An upper echelon 1tech.

 

[Trouty]

Not that I want him, but what do you guys think jpp will get paid in FA?

What will Eric Berry command? Him I want.

Berry will get ~15m AAV and around 40 guar. He will re-sign with the Chiefs, and they will lose Poe.

 

[Trouty]

Stephen coached Jerry and then informed McClay...Just find me some bargain basement players like last year and with the draft
we will be in the playoffs again. Stephen has told you several times that the Cowboys are through being big spenders in FA cause
it doesn't win Super Bowls and hamstrings the team in future years. They are trying to follow the Patriot way and never pay big names
who are close to 30. The boys will nibble around the edges for bargains but, forget paying big salaries to the FA frenzy of the first two
weeks.

Dude. The Patriots bought ******* Revis and won a Bowl.

 

[Trouty]

This is a very sound approach.

If the team was to study the 50 or so free agents they signed in the 90's and 00's and looked at the actual production per dollar...it would be cringe-worthy. And it isn't good league-wide...especially with players 30 or older.

See above (in reference to your first sentence).

 

[Trouty]

Yup, just ask the Commanders who went after pretty much every big name free agent on the market for a number of years, only to get them literally nowhere.

They were too far away and Snyder needed to keep up with his daddy Jerry Jones and sell season tickets. We are in a completely different situation, Guag, my dude.

 

[guag]

With all due respect, Guag, my bro, it isn't.

Explain?

They were too far away and Snyder needed to keep up with his daddy Jerry Jones and sell season tickets. We are in a completely different situation, Guag, my dude.

Wait, so are you saying that spending big in free agency is the way to do things, or not the way to do things? lol

Some teams have gotten some production out of big money free agents, lots of examples in fact. However to build your team mainly on 28-35ish guys making $5-10 million a year is a good way to put your team into a tight cap situation within a few years.

I'm not saying that spending good money on free agents is always bad practice, just that it should probably be done in moderation.

The problem with most free agent guys is that you're almost always overspending for them to some extent... certainly there have been many well-paid free agent signings who have lived up to their big FA contracts, but it's a relatively rare occurrence (especially for this team over the years lol)

 

[cej757]

I hope the Cowboys don't play that game like they did last free agency. We could've had Eric Weddle but Stephen didn't want to match what Baltimore gave him.

 

[Trouty]

Explain?



Wait, so are you saying that spending big in free agency is the way to do things, or not the way to do things? lol

Guag, perennial contenders, or a true contender, that are missing that one piece, are the teams that benefit from filling that single missing link in free agency. In our case, an edge rusher. We can't expect to draft an edge rusher, even if a hit, to come in and set the edge right off the bat. The Bosa's and his ilk are incredibly, incredibly rare.

The Patriots and Broncs have been perennial contenders and usually make a splash signing. In other sports, the top-tier teams (the teams that take it home) usually make a splash signing, i.e. a single piece that completes the "puzzle".

Teams like the Skins (in the past), us (in the distant past), and Giants (last season) are not bubble contenders, and thus, not whom I'm referring to

We need to go hard at JPP.

And Guag, I hope to gosh that I haven't come across as a dingus to you. Just my perspective, my man.

To the second part of your quoted, it's the exact opposite, brother Only if it's viable. It finally is