Jerry Jones Doesn't Expect Cowboys To Be Big Spenders In Free Agency

Bluefin

Well-Known Member
Messages
8,209
Reaction score
9,677
Wasn't Carr the last big name we signed?

Yes.

The original splash signing in 1995 was Deion Sanders (5yrs, $30M).

1999: Rocket Ismail (7rs, $21.5M)
2002: La'Roi Glover (5ys, $22M)
2005: Marco Rivera (5yrs, $25M), Anthony Henry (5yrs, $25M) and Jason Ferguson (5yrs, $21.5M)
2006: Terrell Owens (3yrs, $25M)
2007: Leonard Davis (7yrs, $49.6M)

There are only 3 outside free agents among the team's top 20 cap hits this season. Brandon Carr (#3), Cedric Thornton (#17) and Mark Sanchez (#19).
 

plasticman

Well-Known Member
Messages
10,607
Reaction score
17,738
FRISCO, Texas – The most important stretch of the season begins on Sunday night for the Cowboys, but the big picture is always a popular topic in the NFL.

With that in mind, it’s understandable that team owner/general manager Jerry Jones fielded some questions about the future on Friday during an interview with 105.3 FM The Fan.

Notably, Jones was asked about the Cowboys’ salary cap and how aggressive they might be in free agency this spring. The Cowboys haven’t been big spenders in free agency in recent seasons, and Jones seemed to indicate that might be the case again in 2017.

“Of course we do have draft picks coming, and that’s the preferable way,” Jones said. “As you know, you usually overpay tremendously in free agency.

link/http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2...nt-expect-cowboys-be-big-spenders-free-agency
LOL...."as you know".....

Yeah, Jerry, we know.

Thankfully, Stephen Jones and Jason Garrett successfully pointed this out to Jerry. True to form, it now becomes his personal revelation.
 

drawandstrike

Well-Known Member
Messages
3,051
Reaction score
5,216
Yes.

The original splash signing in 1995 was Deion Sanders (5yrs, $30M).

1999: Rocket Ismail (7rs, $21.5M)
2002: La'Roi Glover (5ys, $22M)
2005: Marco Rivera (5yrs, $25M), Anthony Henry (5yrs, $25M) and Jason Ferguson (5yrs, $21.5M)
2006: Terrell Owens (3yrs, $25M)
2007: Leonard Davis (7yrs, $49.6M)

There are only 3 outside free agents among the team's top 20 cap hits this season. Brandon Carr (#3), Cedric Thornton (#17) and Mark Sanchez (#19).

you look back at those signings and what did we really get? TO was good for us for 2 years but was always being a huge distraction. Davis essentially quit his last year here. Rivera never showed anything. Neither did Glover.
 

Bluefin

Well-Known Member
Messages
8,209
Reaction score
9,677
you look back at those signings and what did we really get? TO was good for us for 2 years but was always being a huge distraction. Davis essentially quit his last year here. Rivera never showed anything. Neither did Glover.

Oh, what might have been in 1999 with Rocket and the Playmaker.

Terrell Owens behaved until he got the extension in year three, his antics led to Stephen Jones convincing his father to cut bait a year later.

I thought La'Roi Glover was a good player here.

I never liked the Marco Rivera signing, but he got injured shortly after signing and just never was the same player.

Jason Ferguson was the monumental whiff.
 

Nightman

Capologist
Messages
27,121
Reaction score
24,038
calling salary cap numbers meaningless isn't quit accurate. They certainly can move numbers around and I expect they'll
do just that by structuring heavy dollar contracts year in 2018. They used to operate over the meaningless cap numbers
until the [I guess] Garrett years and since then we have developed a much more stable team.
there has been no big sea change under Garrett

the cap just went up by 43m from 2013 to 2017
the cap was flat at 123m from 2009 to 2013.........that is the only change
 

waving monkey

Well-Known Member
Messages
15,540
Reaction score
14,930
there has been no big sea change under Garrett

the cap just went up by 43m from 2013 to 2017
the cap was flat at 123m from 2009 to 2013.........that is the only change
then why the boards complaining about no big name FA signings the last three years
Let me edit: It's not that we couldn't use some talent at DE,I agree and I'm betting
it will be middle level talent.
 
Last edited:

Nightman

Capologist
Messages
27,121
Reaction score
24,038
then why the boards complaining about no big name FA signings the last three years
I have complained that we haven't signed anyone because we could use the talent

The salary cap is a fake excuse is what I am saying

Most FO fans say that they have made some big changes but in reality we never sign anyone big

Bad signings like Free and TCrawford would have been a bigger deal if the cap hadn't gone up so much........we still make big mistakes with personnel
 

Bluefin

Well-Known Member
Messages
8,209
Reaction score
9,677
If there's any free agent that's better than mayowa, tank, Ryan Davis, Kyle Wilbur, or jack Crawford let's get them ( as long as it's in reason).

Exactly.

Keep churning the expendable pieces on the roster looking to hit on someone while using the draft to search for long term answers.

DeMarcus Lawrence will return next season so long as his back doesn't give out.

Benson Mayowa will likely have to cement his spot with a solid training camp and pre-season. He could get released on final cuts, the dead money would be spread over 2017 and '18 at that point.

Ryan Davis and Jack Crawford are set to become unrestricted free agents. Kyle Wilber has been phased out on defense and is only playing special teams now (which is important).

I don't expect the first two will be re-signed and Wilber could be cut for salary cap space or just no longer be one of the top 53 next year.
 

waving monkey

Well-Known Member
Messages
15,540
Reaction score
14,930
I have complained that we haven't signed anyone because we could use the talent

The salary cap is a fake excuse is what I am saying

Most FO fans say that they have made some big changes but in reality we never sign anyone big

Bad signings like Free and TCrawford would have been a bigger deal if the cap hadn't gone up so much........we still make big mistakes with personnel
You know there is never any science to these debate nor is there in any economy.
I think where you and I essentially disagree is that Jones isn't spending enough
salary on the team so he can make more money. I have heard this expressed several times
on this board.
 

Bluefin

Well-Known Member
Messages
8,209
Reaction score
9,677
Let me edit: It's not that we couldn't use some talent at DE,I agree and I'm betting it will be middle level talent.

Could be.

A mid-level free agent talent can help.

So can a long in the tooth veteran willing to play in a rotation for a shot at a ring.

There's nothing wrong with giving an unproven youngster a chance to go to camp if he projects as a good fit.

If a "name" unexpectedly shakes loose and has no problematic baggage, try to add him.

Try to get better in free agency and head into the draft without any open wounds that must be stitched.
 

jrumann59

Well-Known Member
Messages
15,017
Reaction score
8,770
Denver found some FA pieces to get them over the top: Manning, Ware, Talib.

I just want one guy: a guy off the edge. It's the one piece missing from the team.
Different kind of FA, those guys were cast offs two due to injury issues the other to knuckle headedness.
 

drawandstrike

Well-Known Member
Messages
3,051
Reaction score
5,216
Here lies the bodies of many a team who thought the same and destroyed their cap and progress stopped younger players development.

Latest body...2015-2016 Indy Colts.

Mike Lynn was absolutely convinced his 1989 Vikings team was 1 player away from a Super Bowl run.

I still think the Cowboys could've won that Super Bowl in 1995 without Deion Sanders.

We might have won even without Haley.

Of course because he did those deals, Jerry likes to claim we don't win those Super Bowls without Sanders and Haley
 
Last edited:

Deep_Freeze

Well-Known Member
Messages
9,225
Reaction score
3,440
Here lies the bodies of many a team who thought the same and destroyed their cap and progress stopped younger players development.

Latest body...2015-2016 Indy Colts.

I understand this. Guess my issue is if we signed a WDE, whose progress would we be stopping??

I can see that at other positions, but at WDE, we don't even have anyone there that will even progress right now.
 

gmoney112

Well-Known Member
Messages
11,589
Reaction score
15,694
Here lies the bodies of many a team who thought the same and destroyed their cap and progress stopped younger players development.

Latest body...2015-2016 Indy Colts.

Ah, I remember when I didn't watch football. The Colts can't draft, that's why they're a smoldering heap of garbage.

How many more years does Ware want to play? Peppers is old, but can still play, probably wants a chance at a ring before he retires, and they'd both be dirt cheap. Bring 'em both in on 1 year deals to let 'em retire as Cowboys, draft two DE's (because Lawrence may not warrant a resigning after next year), and let the two young talented draft picks, Lawrence, and Tapper learn from two HoF players.

Start this rebuild on defense with some young talented pass rushers learning from the best. Class this joint up a bit, and no Gregory, that's not what I meant.
 

Toruk_Makto

Well-Known Member
Messages
14,242
Reaction score
17,336
I understand this. Guess my issue is if we signed a WDE, whose progress would we be stopping??

I can see that at other positions, but at WDE, we don't even have anyone there that will even progress right now.
Elite DEs who are young and will fit our system and who deserve big money and don't have a massive red flag...how often do they actually reach free agency? You think Mack is getting to free agency? Or someone like him?

You have to build through the draft. And it's why in the draft you need to grab the guys that are the hardest to replace in free agency.
 

Deep_Freeze

Well-Known Member
Messages
9,225
Reaction score
3,440
Elite DEs who are young and will fit our system and who deserve big money and don't have a massive red flag...how often do they actually reach free agency? You think Mack is getting to free agency? Or someone like him?

You have to build through the draft. And it's why in the draft you need to grab the guys that are the hardest to replace in free agency.

I would pretty much only hope Chandler Jones gets to free agency. Not a fan of JPP anymore, although I could see why they would at least think about it.

Other than that, really ain't much out there. We need the hole filled though, and we can't force the draft to get that guy, or we will end up with Ekuban, Carver, Pittman, and such.
 

UTmodisette

Well-Known Member
Messages
208
Reaction score
309
Why did New England give away Chandler Jones for nothing?

The Patriots gave up a proven pass rusher, why were they scared to pay him?



I'm on board for that, if a fair price is reached.

Several of us here had Jabaal Sheard on our off-season wish list in 2015. Sheard has averaged 8.4 QB hits over the last five seasons.

Another free agent to be is Carolina Panther Charles Johnson.

Johnson is older than Sheard, but he's averaged 13.2 QB hits over the last five seasons.

Another Panthers free agent is Mario Addison, their reserve RDE. Add is averaging 9.8 QB hits over the last five seasons and 6.3 sacks over the last three.

DeMarcus Ware might be interested in re-joining the Cowboys with a chance to go out in story book fashion.

There are plenty of options set to hit the open market and few more will likely join the mix when teams decide to shed some expensive contracts.
I'm not interested in the Panthers DEs, they have really struggled with outside pressure this year. Demarcus Ware would be really interesting though. On the one hand he fits a little bit better in the Wade Phillips defense, and he is always getting hurt now. But he is still very effective, and this team has proven it can without a good pass rush, so they really would just need him for the playoff run. Would be great to see him able to win a Super Bowl in a Cowboys uniform, but I wonder go much more comfortable he would be just staying in Denver, assuming they still want him. Peppers would be another really good veteran DE to give a 1 year deal to.
 
Top