Jerry Jones hit the nail on the head

[vlad]

What is most maddening is we are barely hearing anything about this phantom tripping call that would have wiped this story out of existence.

 

[Hadenough]

I'm tired of hearing about this. Detroit tried to cheat and use deception. Didn't work game over they lost.

 

[pansophy]

There's is no proof that the ref got confused. There is plenty of proof that this keystone cops level attempt to subvert the reporting rules backfired tremendously.

And of course it should have never even happened anyway because Dallas got screwed by one of the worst calls ever on the tripping. Seriously, did that ref penalize us because she thought we tried to trip our own player?

There is no proof that 70 told the ref that he was eligible. 68 says he reported and 70 says he didn’t, and Campbell said the plan was to confuse the cowboys. So either the lion players are lying or the refs got confused.

the fact that the refs missed the tripping call is reason to doubt their ability, not support the idea that lions messed up what they were trying to do.

everyone is focused on the wrong thing anyway. The only thing that matters is that the cowboys were told 70 was eligible and that’s what was announced. No telling if the play works had they called it correctly and the defense accounted for him.

 

[Starstruck22]

There is no proof that 70 told the ref that he was eligible. 68 says he reported and 70 says he didn’t, and Campbell said the plan was to confuse the cowboys. So either the lion players are lying or the refs got confused.

the fact that the refs missed the tripping call is reason to doubt their ability, not support the idea that lions messed up what they were trying to do.

everyone is focused on the wrong thing anyway. The only thing that matters is that the cowboys were told 70 was eligible and that’s what was announced. No telling if the play works had they called it correctly and the defense accounted for him.

So we are going to believe the people who are designing a play to rob dallas of the ability to know who the eligible is? Omg. This cant get any more bizarre. And there is visible proof of 70 reporting and ref acknowledging. We have gone over this 50 times people. It has been settled.

 

[Starstruck22]

That is correct. It’s what society is built upon - laws that defined what is legal and what is not. If there isn’t a law prohibiting it, it’s legal.

There are social norms and “rules” of etiquette that are legal, but not necessarily an accepted standard by the law.

In the sports world, it’s the “spirit” of the game. But that’s a nebulous term - who decides what’s in the spirit and what isn’t? You? Me?

What DC did was not illegal and if it’s not illegal, it isn’t cheating. Again, poor sportsmanship, maybe, but that’s it.

You and I obviously aren’t going to see eye-to-eye on this, so we’ll simply have to agree to disagree.

This is getting about as bizarre and stupid as it can. There is a rule. It is called the reporting rule. I do think some on here are being purposefully obtuse.
and if there is no rule it is not poor sportsman ship. What you don’t comprehend is there is a rule, the reporting rule. If the rule was involving any other aspect of the game, and not reporting, it would be cheating to subvert that rule. It does not matter. But you are being purposefully obtuse. Campbells intent was to subvert the reporting rule. If you are saying he is just a moron and did not understand that, I can buy that. But it was still a ploy to circumvent a rule that allows dallas to know who the eligible guy is. If it was not Campbells intent, why the gimmickary? Just have decker report. So if you are saying Campbell would never purposefully design a play to subvert the reporting rule, that was what was done plain and simple. It would just be hard for anyone to believe he did not know what he was actually doing.

 

[Starstruck22]

So just to clarify it is implicit in all rules, nfl or not, desigNing something to subvert a rule is unethical, cheating, and scurrilous. And yes i believe it was intentional and had he won the game would be ready to devise more such bs. And very well may continue to circumvent rules to win. An honest coach would have told Decker to report with no smokescreen, decker would have reported and if he had caught the ball fair game and they win. Why is this so difficult to understand. It is not actually calculus or differential equations. Lmao.

 

[pansophy]

So we are going to believe the people who are designing a play to rob dallas of the ability to know who the eligible is? Omg. This cant get any more bizarre. And there is visible proof of 70 reporting and ref acknowledging. We have gone over this 50 times people. It has been settled.

The nfl video that went out today made it pretty clear. It didn’t seem like 70 could say anything to the ref because he was still running, but he was gesturing like had previously, which apparently is also required.

so It all can true. 70 said nothing, but gestured like he was eligible like he had previously and so the ref took it that way.

none of it matters though. play not work if 68 is declared, and they got two more shots. It’s just interesting how it got so muddled.

 

[Starstruck22]

The nfl video that went out today made it pretty clear. It didn’t seem like 70 could say anything to the ref because he was still running, but he was gesturing like had previously, which apparently is also required.

so It all can true. 70 said nothing, but gestured like he was eligible like he had previously and so the ref took it that way.

none of it matters though. play not work if 68 is declared, and they got two more shots. It’s just interesting how it got so muddled.

Campbell issued a statement that he was trying to cheat the cowboys. Case closed.

 

[plasticman]

Jerry put it the same way I was and the same way as one analyst, the one that does a show with McCoy and Joy Taylor.

This was not a trick play. It was a sneaky attempt to deprive the Cowboys of the right to determine edibility. The administrative process necessary to adhere to the rules regarding determining eligibility cannot be interfered with. Campbell was deliberately doing just that and he admitted it.

On the bright side of it for Campbel, he was successful. He certainly fooled the refs.

 

[cowboyed]

When the going gets tough the tough cheat? Campbell is proving himself not to be a high character head coach. What annoyed me further about the trickery is that they tried to intimidate the ref by arguing vehemently against the call. It's one thing to disguise a play attempt on the field and it's another to undermine or manipulate the rules. Don't get the scenario confused.

 

[DogFace]

Detroit and no one else will try this Belicheat crap again.

Good riddance.

 

[Mobinvans]

This is the best Dak we are ever gonna get

So it’s now or never

If he jokes again this year he’s dead to me

 

[GMO415]

It ain't changing.....DAL is 11-5

 

[Starstruck22]

Jerry put it the same way I was and the same way as one analyst, the one that does a show with McCoy and Joy Taylor.

This was not a trick play. It was a sneaky attempt to deprive the Cowboys of the right to determine edibility. The administrative process necessary to adhere to the rules regarding determining eligibility cannot be interfered with. Campbell was deliberately doing just that and he admitted it.

On the bright side of it for Campbel, he was successful. He certainly fooled the refs.

It is clearly an open and shut case. Campbell tried to subvert a rule which should have resulted in an admonition and a fine. This was unethical, sleazy, and scurrilous. All of those who are confused on here or elsewhere (like Skip and undisputed clowns) and blaming officlals are really demonstrating an incredible lack of intelligence and awareness. Perspicacious people got it an hour after it happened.

 

[Starstruck22]

Jerry put it the same way I was and the same way as one analyst, the one that does a show with McCoy and Joy Taylor.

This was not a trick play. It was a sneaky attempt to deprive the Cowboys of the right to determine edibility. The administrative process necessary to adhere to the rules regarding determining eligibility cannot be interfered with. Campbell was deliberately doing just that and he admitted it.

On the bright side of it for Campbel, he was successful. He certainly fooled the refs.

The refs were not fooled and anyone that entertains that is confused. The refs made an immediate and correct decision. No confusion.

 

[superonyx]

Gee Jerry, 70 only reported as eligible 6 times during the game already, there was no rules broken or plays to break the rules folks on the two point play, just a ref that assumed 70 was reporting when he it was actually 68...

Except that 70 ran on the field and held up his arm and rubbed his chest which is how a player notifies the refs they are eligible.
So it wasn't just an assumption. It's like signaling for a fair catch and then pretending you didn't.

 

[Starstruck22]

When the going gets tough the tough cheat? Campbell is proving himself not to be a high character head coach. What annoyed me further about the trickery is that they tried to intimidate the ref by arguing vehemently against the call. It's one thing to disguise a play attempt on the field and it's another to undermine or manipulate the rules. Don't get the scenario confused.

Campbell has done something that will haunt him the rest of his career. Why? Because he has made it clear he will do anything to win, ethics be damned. So we are now all on the lookout for the subsequent attempts to win by cheating and they will come. Everyone knows Bellichick is a cheater. He tried to steal signals, He tried deflating footballs. He also has designed some questionable plays that very well may have been designed to subvert established rules. Campbell is Bellichick‘s protege in this respect. He is not smart, clever, or ingenious. He is a cheat and scurrilous liar and expects his players to lie for him and they do and will.

 

[Xeven]

Was ******** that Detroit even got the ball after 2 min warning.

 

[Starstruck22]

Except that 70 ran on the field and held up his arm and rubbed his chest which is how a player notifies the refs they are eligible.
So it wasn't just an assumption. It's like signaling for a fair catch and then pretending you didn't.

The play was designed and carried out exactly as designed. Campbell attempted to subvert the rule. That is cheating. 70 did report no question.

 

[The Quest for Six]

Except that 70 ran on the field and held up his arm and rubbed his chest which is how a player notifies the refs they are eligible.
So it wasn't just an assumption. It's like signaling for a fair catch and then pretending you didn't.

you have to go up to the ref which 68 did, 70 didn't, makes no sense for 70 to report eligible and then line up in an ineligible position on the line as Aikman stated after the game, ref had a brain fart and assumed it was 70 reporting since he reported numerous times during the game..