Jerry Jones - Pollard can carry the load

CouchCoach

Staff member
Messages
41,122
Reaction score
74,904
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
You can call it that if you want.

But then again this is the guy who said our WRs were good enough last year and we actually played 7 games with them before they made the Cooper trade.

People better get used to the notion that the Jones may be dug in here and Elliott might be starting the season drinking daiquiris in Cabo.
That sounds better than getting beat up on a football field.

And you are dead on, anyone taking the COO's take on the talent of any player or the team hasn't been paying attention, he has that job for one reason and it isn't because he's good at it.
 

85Cowboy85

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,519
Reaction score
1,664
I think it's very interesting that they thought enough of him to hide him for the first preseason game. I can't remember the last time a 4th round pick got that kind of treatment.
 

PA Cowboy Fan

Well-Known Member
Messages
24,774
Reaction score
50,170
I think it's very interesting that they thought enough of him to hide him for the first preseason game. I can't remember the last time a 4th round pick got that kind of treatment.
Trying to convince Zeke that his replacement is on the team. Didn't want to leave him in the game in case he started to get negative yards.
 

Alexander

What's it going to be then, eh?
Messages
62,451
Reaction score
67,265
Pollard never carried the ball more than 17 times in a single game in college and that came in his final game against Wake Forest.

Only one other time in 40 games did he hit double digit carries in a game.

In three years, he had only 139 carries from scrimmage, which is an average of about 3.5 rushing attempts a game.

The biggest workload he ever had was 19 total touches rushing and receiving versus Houston.

But Jones thinks he can in the pros where they are bigger, stronger and faster?

Based off what? A couple of padded practices and four carries in a preseason game?

giphy.gif
 

CouchCoach

Staff member
Messages
41,122
Reaction score
74,904
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
Ya know, one of the slams against Elliott is the off field behavior and the missed games. He's the one that paid for those missed games and his guilt is still questionable about that and the parade incident and concert one were really nothing if it's not him.

And while he does exhibit a little too much immaturity and party boy, that really has nothing go do with why a GM and HC and QB would want him on their team. And I think in all fairness, if his off the field stuff should be held against him, his donation to The Salvation Army after not being fined and paying for that young man's funeral should go on the other side of that ledger.

We'd like to think the risk factor would be a turn off to a potential team, and it would be to some, but if there's anything we've learned from pro sports is that talent trumps everything else. So, he's a risk, and even if he does catch a time out, they don't pay him. His holdout now could cost him 177K a game, under a new contract, a suspension could cost him close to 1M a game. Booger is out to lunch on players playing better for better pay but they will behave for more money. Under a new deal, Elliott screws up, could cost him 6-10M.
 

CouchCoach

Staff member
Messages
41,122
Reaction score
74,904
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
Pollard never carried the ball more than 17 times in a single game in college and that came in his final game against Wake Forest.

Only one other time in 40 games did he hit double digit carries in a game.

In three years, he had only 139 carries from scrimmage, which is an average of about 3.5 rushing attempts a game.

The biggest workload he ever had was 19 total touches rushing and receiving versus Houston.

But Jones thinks he can in the pros where they are bigger, stronger and faster?

Based off what? A couple of padded practices and four carries in a preseason game?

giphy.gif
That comment wasn't aimed at public consumption, it was a shot across Elliott's bow. The problem is Pollard wasn't selected to be Elliott's backup, Weber was as a draft pick and FA RB's. None of which are in Elliott's class.

Doesn't mean they have to have a back in that class to accomplish something but they do have to be able to run the rock when necessary. Do they need a great back with that OL, if healthy? Couple of good ones could get it done with the right QB/receiver play.
 

Sydla

Well-Known Member
Messages
60,113
Reaction score
91,948
Sad but true.

That also works out one of two ways which isn’t great for the Jones. The team struggles, and they panic and buckle to Elliott.

Or the team plays well, the run game is good behind this OL and Pollard and others look competent and it makes you wonder how wise it was to use the 4th pick on a TB.
 

Sydla

Well-Known Member
Messages
60,113
Reaction score
91,948
Ya know, one of the slams against Elliott is the off field behavior and the missed games. He's the one that paid for those missed games and his guilt is still questionable about that and the parade incident and concert one were really nothing if it's not him.

And while he does exhibit a little too much immaturity and party boy, that really has nothing go do with why a GM and HC and QB would want him on their team. And I think in all fairness, if his off the field stuff should be held against him, his donation to The Salvation Army after not being fined and paying for that young man's funeral should go on the other side of that ledger.

We'd like to think the risk factor would be a turn off to a potential team, and it would be to some, but if there's anything we've learned from pro sports is that talent trumps everything else. So, he's a risk, and even if he does catch a time out, they don't pay him. His holdout now could cost him 177K a game, under a new contract, a suspension could cost him close to 1M a game. Booger is out to lunch on players playing better for better pay but they will behave for more money. Under a new deal, Elliott screws up, could cost him 6-10M.

But the cap implications of paying him and then he gets suspended is real. The team is absolutely right to factor that into negotiations with him.
 

jazzcat22

Staff member
Messages
77,400
Reaction score
96,098
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
Memphis also had another RB drafted so having multiple talented guys will factor into him never getting 20 carries.
I understand that. But just like the Cowboys see him, Memphis saw and used him as a situational weapon. It’s not a knock on him, just a realistic assessment of his talents. He’s just not ever been seen as a workhorse kind of back.


Memphis had to use him as a situational player. Because he was that good, they need to get him on the field. He was the #2 RB behind a very good RB. So to take advantage of his skills, they played him as a WR because he was that good of an athlete. If not for the RB in front of him, he would have been the starter.

Just as Felix Jones was the back up to Darren McFadden in college. Not that they have great NFL careers, but overall decent, but both had success in College.

Who was the RB that backed up Reggie Bush, Charles White? I think he was better than Bush in that Rose Bowl game that Vince Young won the National Champions over USC. And should have won the Heissman over Bush if voted on after that game. Too bad ir was before.
 

DuncanIso

Well-Known Member
Messages
9,767
Reaction score
6,221
Ya know, one of the slams against Elliott is the off field behavior and the missed games. He's the one that paid for those missed games and his guilt is still questionable about that and the parade incident and concert one were really nothing if it's not him.

And while he does exhibit a little too much immaturity and party boy, that really has nothing go do with why a GM and HC and QB would want him on their team. And I think in all fairness, if his off the field stuff should be held against him, his donation to The Salvation Army after not being fined and paying for that young man's funeral should go on the other side of that ledger.

We'd like to think the risk factor would be a turn off to a potential team, and it would be to some, but if there's anything we've learned from pro sports is that talent trumps everything else. So, he's a risk, and even if he does catch a time out, they don't pay him. His holdout now could cost him 177K a game, under a new contract, a suspension could cost him close to 1M a game. Booger is out to lunch on players playing better for better pay but they will behave for more money. Under a new deal, Elliott screws up, could cost him 6-10M.

Zeke is young and he’s a millionaire....

But he doesn’t use drugs.

The OHio St case has been discussed to death .
 

atlantacowboy

Well-Known Member
Messages
18,138
Reaction score
24,870
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
He was the second best back at the U of memphis last year. I'd say that qualifies him to carry the load. :facepalm:
 

CouchCoach

Staff member
Messages
41,122
Reaction score
74,904
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
But the cap implications of paying him and then he gets suspended is real. The team is absolutely right to factor that into negotiations with him.
I don't know how they do that and contract language has to be approved by the NFL. It's just a risk factor they have to either take or not.
 

Cowpolk

Landry Hat
Messages
18,851
Reaction score
28,794
“Pollard’s been the talk of training camp”....like that’s any kind of indicator of future success. Remember the “great camp” had by Beau Morgan in the 90s? Brandon Weeden threw “the prettiest ball”?

It is literally laugh out loud funny that JJ and SJ are acting like Pollard is anything beyond a rookie 4th round RB who was drafted to probably have 60-80 touches over an entire season.
Dak was a 4th round pick
 

ItzKelz

Well-Known Member
Messages
6,838
Reaction score
9,164
Pollard could carry the load.....but do we really want him to at this point? I mean we do have the best RB in the NFL sitting in Cabo.
 

Irvin88_4life

Well-Known Member
Messages
22,492
Reaction score
26,367
A rookie RB, who has never played in the NFL, isn't going to replace Zeke.

That is a leverage card Dallas is trying to play against Zeke.

Zeke has the best leverage though. Without Zeke, the offense will struggle. [see 2017 for the results]

As the regular season approaches, the pressure will increase on Jerry.

Pay Zeke.

432 NFL players make more $$$ than Zeke.
You don't know how the offense will be without Zeke. Besides OL name the same players on offense that we had in 17.....
 

TheSkaven

Last Man Standing
Messages
7,021
Reaction score
5,775
Unpopular opinion: he’s right. And it’s not based on this preseason game, obviously.

We know in this league that, unlike quarterbacks, it’s common to find stud running backs in the later rounds or even undrafted.

Tony Pollard may or may not be that guy. But we know that the Cowboys have invested heavily in the offensive line. Pollard is a dynamic runner. He should have a lot of success behind that line.

People panicking over Zeke’s absence are out of their minds. He has no leverage. Caving would be a big mistake. This team is going to be just fine without him. In fact, if you’re going to invest that much in your o-line and your #1 receiver, you really shouldn’t be paying a running back at the top of the market.
 

Reality

Staff member
Messages
30,535
Reaction score
69,592
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
Jerry Jones: Tony Pollard capable of carrying the load

ap_19223046664199-e1565533718480.jpg


Ezekiel Elliott remains out of Cowboys camp and the team has been using rookie Tony Pollard as their top back in his absence. The guy who will ultimately decide whether or not to give Elliott what ...

Read Full Story
 

cowboyblue22

Well-Known Member
Messages
9,934
Reaction score
8,613
jerry and son are both full of crap the untruths that come out of their mouths daily is awful they are both full of it no wonder the cowboys are not taken seriously and are an after thought to being contenders in this league
 
Top