Jerry Jones to SAS on why the team did not go after Derrick Henry

[ChuckA1]

So crazy it is genius.

I guess we'll find out the level of his genius this season.

 

[The Quest for Six]

Yeah….well aware of that. Doesn’t warrant hate.

What "HATE" are you referring too......just because people have a different view/opinion of Zeke's game that is actually fact about his CLEAR decline isn't "HATE", it's an observation......

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

What "HATE" are you referring too......just because people have a different view/opinion of Zeke's game that is actually fact about his CLEAR decline isn't "HATE", it's an observation......

I’m not referring to those posts. I’m referring to the ones who have said they don’t like him based on his off the field isssues. That’s not observation.

 

[The Quest for Six]

If the oline is truly improved....you'll eat your words.
I know..."gladly"....right?

The topic on hand was about an owner/GM evaluation of a player based on fandon or friendship with a player, not his clear declining ability, not whether the offensive line is good....

 

[zrinkill]

I like Zeke ...... I think he will play well ...... wont matter with this QB in the playoffs ....... but it is what it is.

 

[Sheepherder]

So we didn't go after Henry because Zeke? What a clown!

My question is what happens when our offense has no speed with Zeke and just plods along at 3 yards per carry? Than what Jerry? It’s going to happen

So you're saying that with the depth they have , nobody has any quickness?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Know what, that Zeke will upgrade situational short yardage success? Because its the thing he has done best his entire career, and its the thing Pollard was probably the worst at.

No...how do you know "a guy the rest of the league passed on".

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

The topic on hand was about an owner/GM evaluation of a player based on fandon or friendship with a player, not his clear declining ability, not whether the offensive line is good....

You already made the decision Zeke will suck. That is what I was referring to.

If the oline is "much improved" as some say, Zeke will be more effective than you give him credit for and Jerry's decision to "be friends" won't look quite as bad as you say.

 

[Proof]

So basically he's saying we needed to use our resources elsewhere and Zeke is good enough, should at least be an improvement in short yardage/goal line.

Funny I just watched a clip of Jones cutting Amendola yesterday. I'll put that one behind Jimmy Smith though.

wonder where those resources were used? couple udfas and overthe hill jags? brilliant

 

[Proof]

Naw man I mean I love Zeke but people hate him here for some reason. When you ask them why they bring up stuff from 2015…..

hold out, and rapid decline. simple

 

[Kingofholland]

Man, it'll be a sad day when Jerry is finally pushing daisies.

Just kidding.

I don't know Stephen would probably be fielding a money ball team every year pinching pennies. Hope when that day comes they sell the team.

 

[Proof]

A lot of mental midgets use the word hate in 2024. So sad

well YOU specifically are a hater, and an idiot. but i digress.

 

[Proof]

No...how do you know "a guy the rest of the league passed on".

prob because after we cut him he remained a free agent for nearly two months and ultimately only signed a 1 yr deal. and then after the free agency rb bonanza where teams were snatching guys up quickly and at a premium, he was left on the shelf again until we grabbed him for 2 million dollars and again a 1 yr deal.

 

[thunderpimp91]

No...how do you know "a guy the rest of the league passed on".

Because he signed a 1yr/$2M contract at the end of April. That's less than 1% of the cap and less than multiple backup running backs make. 15 other free agent RBs got paid more than Zeke did this offseason. A minimal dollar deal signed over a month into free agency means all 32 teams had a chance to evaluate their RB position and decided not to offer more money than what the Cowboys offered.

Last year he didn't get a deal until August and settled with going to one of the worst teams in the league.

Zeke can serve a role on this team, but its clear that no other team in the league values Zeke as a RB1.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

Fact is they feel they can get more bang for their buck. It’s a very stupid opinion but this is how they operate.

It does not get anymore complicated than this. And don't forget, Zeke was going to count against the cap whether he was in Dallas or not, so I think that was a factor as well

Do they Henry was better than Zeke at this stage in their careers? Yes! Do they think the difference warranted the difference in what it would cost them? No! And many of think it would have been worth it to pay what Henry was asking for. So I guess we shall all see.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

hold out, and rapid decline. simple

yeah but you see how crazy that is though? The Cowboys ran him into the ground….and paid him and we blame him lol….just seems crazy to me.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

It does not get anymore complicated than this. And don't forget, Zeke was going to count against the cap whether he was in Dallas or not, so I think that was a factor as well

Do they Henry was better than Zeke at this stage in their careers? Yes! Do they think the difference warranted the difference in what it would cost them? No! And many of think it would have been worth it to pay what Henry was asking for. So I guess we shall all see.

Exactly. I don’t agree with it but I understand the line of thinking.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

prob because after we cut him he remained a free agent for nearly two months and ultimately only signed a 1 yr deal. and then after the free agency rb bonanza where teams were snatching guys up quickly and at a premium, he was left on the shelf again until we grabbed him for 2 million dollars and again a 1 yr deal.

I think that was more of his doing than anyone else’s. He could’ve signed a cheaper deal elsewhere but it made more sense to go to the Pats who he only had to outperform Stevenson in order to get playing time.

It’s like Gillmore. He just signed but I don’t think that means no one wanted him.

 

[Proof]

yeah but you see how crazy that is though? The Cowboys ran him into the ground….and paid him and we blame him lol….just seems crazy to me.

I wasn't a fan of drafting him, wasn't a fan of his antics, then wasn't a fan of him holding out when he did after "all that jerry had done for him" and then he fell off a cliff. just a culmination of things. ultimately i'm a fan of the team. i do have more love for certain players, but mostly it's what have you done for me lately. if he comes in and contributes then i'll once again be a fan.

 

[Mikexike]

If you dispose of the idea that current Zeke compares to young Zeke, then the Cowboys are not necessarily in the no-man's land most pundits seem to believe for their running game. They have elements that could lead to a good running game on offense - even if they don't have any superstar caliber players. If they are willing to actually use Luepke and Vaughn regularly (5+ carries each) per game, then Zeke and Rico can handle the other 25 carries between them. Throw in 2-3 jet sweeps from Turpin and an occasional end around from CeeDee and the Cowboys can have a competent running game - which is all they need.

The biggest factor which will contribute to a strong running game from the Cowboys isn't the running backs in the RB room - it is the new beef upfront. The left side of Guyton, Smith and Beebe could become a force, and two seasons ago, Steele was the Cowboys best graded Olineman in the running game. Martin on the right side is still strong. Uprading the strength in the center of the Oline is going to be a huge factor in the running game. Even last year, the Cowboys did better running the ball when Brock Hoffman was in the game. He was simply stronger than Biadasz. Biadasz is still a good center - above average even. But he simply never had the strength to open up holes in the running game. Biadasz has the feet of a good Olineman, but simply not the upper body Brute Strength. This was why so many coaches were high on Hoffman coming into the season - because of his strength. He wasn't as technically good as Biadasz, but sometimes you simply need the brute force. Beebe has both.

The Cowboys are going to struggle in pass protection on the edges. Guyton is young and will make mistakes. Steele is still a work in progress. That is why having Zeke in the backfield to help out isn't such a bad thing for passing plays. But both tackles are already pretty good run blockers who love to punish defenders. Add in two All-Pro guards and the Cowboys run game could be a huge surprise for a lot of people - simply because the Oline may consistently get a 2-3 yard push off the line before even talking about opening holes. Those are some big strong dudes up front. As they go, so goes the running game.

Love the post Jumbo, I've been pounding the table that the backs wont matter... Its the center that will be the big difference along with the 2 probowl guards...