Jerry Jones was just on the fan he said what i have suspected *Audio Post #84*

[visionary]

Not saying I agree with that idiotic logic as a fan... But all the yelling... Screaming and stomping wont change a dang thing ..,Jerry will do what he wants to..he brags about spending the most $$$ on an NFL team / product this year .. Nothing you or I say will change that ., as long as others buy tickets and merchandise (I haven't paid for a ticket or merchandise in years) he will continue

nothing you or i say change the decisions by the GM, the decisions by the coaching staff, or the play by the players

so, if that is the only reason, why do you post anything on the board?

people come here to voice their opinion and discuss things with other fans, not becasue they think jerry or the coaches or players will change anything

 

[Future]

He believes were not apathetic because even when we lose we have seen such a great show, we just gotta keep coming back! woo !

Yea, and he's not wrong.

In the second part of the quote, that everybody chooses to ignore, he says "We’re there to win the ballgame and go forward and win the next ballgame." Recognizing the fans will keep coming as long as the team is competitive but knowing that they need to play better on the field is something that probably every owner in his situation would do. Its not like he's saying that he wants to stay mediocre because fans will come anyways.

 

[mldardy]

How can you defend what he said? I understand he didn't exactly say winning is secondary but he DID say this past game was entertaining and that's why fans will keep coming. I can assure you as a lifelong Cowboy fan that watching one of the most monumental collapses was not entertaining on the least. How can wanting to destroy your TV set after watching an "entertaining" game be considered entertainment?

I understand he probably means as a national viewer but that's also where he doesn't "get it" and why our stadium has so many fans of opposing teams.

I'm not defending what he said. I'm saying he didn't say winning is secondary, all I care about is the show. This whole thing has gotten blown out of proportion because of the OP and the Fan itself twisting around what he actually said and meant.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

He should have said that loss was embarrassing & unacceptable. Period!

 

[Super_Kazuya]

this post is a perfect example of what i was talking about in my post above

still fans on this site (who clearly think they know football, funny i know) that think jerry , stephen, and jason are doing a good job

instead of focusing on the problems they are always willling to find an excuse for horrible decisions by the owner and coaches in this franchise

asinine but true

Your post is a perfect example of illiteracy at its worst, and a generation of brainless, spoiled Cowboys fans who play too much Madden. Go sit down on the couch; you're done here crybaby.

 

[visionary]

the best con man is one who believes his own con

 

[theSHOW]

"That's a show?"

Jerry you alcoholic, I resent that remark.

Signed theSHOW

 

[Zimmy Lives]

I think Jerry is just spouting more BS to cover his disappointment.

The only way I would find losing entertaining is if the losing coach, GM and owner had their heads cut off at midfield after the game. THAT would be entertaining!

 

[Seven]

nothing you or i say change the decisions by the GM, the decisions by the coaching staff, or the play by the players

so, if that is the only reason, why do you post anything on the board?

people come here to voice their opinion and discuss things with other fans, not becasue they think jerry or the coaches or players will change anything

Thank you.

I honestly thought this went without saying. I find it hard to believe people thought we were voicing an opinion thinking jerry would take heed.

Really?

 

[mahoneybill]

This is exactly right. Jerry would like some glory, but he really wants money -- simply because he's much more a businessman than a football guy, and money is his primary measure of success. I realize the NFL is a business (a tax-exempt business), and owning a team requires business acumen. But some owners -- Kraft, the Maras, the Rooneys and others -- are able to balance business success and football success. Jerry doesn't seem blessed with that talent.

Unless he has more than we think, or some very creative accountants, he poured 1 billion into the stadium. He like any other person wants to pay
that off, and make some. Sure franchise is valued at x but if any of you have ever sold a home, you know its only worth what the buy will pay at the time it is sold.

Such is the state of Cowboyland at this time and until the fan comes first we will suffer .............

 

[visionary]

Your post is a perfect example of illiteracy at its worst, and a generation of brainless, spoiled Cowboys fans who play too much Madden. Go sit down on the couch; you're done here crybaby.

so, dont address the real question
more distraction
par for the course

 

[theebs]

I have to admit that after the Cowboys are put out of their misery (and ours) that I'll be rooting for the Seahawks and DFW's best QB Russell Wilson.

when the playoffs start I would love to see KC go win a championship. The magnitude that would have in philly would just be fun.

plus once again a great coach was available and they knew how good he was and the cowboys made no effort to even talk to him. Not that he would work for these people anyway.

I think Carolina or sf are going to find a way into the sb.

 

[Seven]

for the love of God, i don't know how i can hate a man this much.

It's unhealthy, I know.

 

[mahoneybill]

Jon Machota ‏@jonmachota 59m
Jerry on injuries: "We've had a healthy Romo. That ought to be able to help us get by some of this inadequacy with some of our personnel."

And therein lies the problem. Even JJ thinks Tony can overcome the efforts of the other 50+ on the team.

The ints are back breakers, but so are misplayed jump balls, missed tackles, non touching of grounded receiver. Those give up an immediate 6 .
An int unless a pick 6 still gives the D a chance to make a play, get ball back, or hold to 3. Unfortunately we let teams score more often than not
and once again " a healthy Romo" is expected to make up for it....

 

[The_Boyz_Rock]

en·ter·tain·ment
2. something affording pleasure, diversion, or amusement, especially a performance of some kind:


If Jerry thinks a bunch of pissed off hardcore Cowboy fans were 'Entertained' last Sunday, he needs to look up 'Dellusional'

 

[George]

Your post is a perfect example of illiteracy at its worst, and a generation of brainless, spoiled Cowboys fans who play too much Madden. Go sit down on the couch; you're done here crybaby.

Yeah. Yeah. You go after other fans. Here is you:

"I'm really tired of bandwagon-riding fans saying Romo continues to make late-game breakdowns in December, when he doesn't." - Super_Kazuya

 

[Seven]

All you did was make up your own magical level of futility. Ask a Bills fan what it's like to miss the playoffs for the last 14 years.... the Cowboys aren't even close to any of the longest suffering fan bases. There is nothing special about this franchise, the fans, or the owner and all of these talks of "movements" to enact "change" because we can't bear to be 8-8 are a joke. We're not special fans and we don't deserve anything.

Pssst........we are Dallas Cowboys fans. We could give two ***** about other franchises and their woes.

Jokes on you.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Pssst........we are Dallas Cowboys fans. We could give two ****s about other franchises and their woes.

Jokes on you.

Being a deluded, bandwagon riding crybaby who thinks you deserve better because the team you closed your eyes and picked out of a hat was great decades ago doesn't make you a fan.

Joke's on you, Jack!

P.S. You don't deserve anything.

 

[theebs]

Being a deluded, bandwagon riding crybaby who thinks you deserve better because the team you closed your eyes and picked out of a hat was great decades ago doesn't make you a fan.

Joke's on you, Jack!

P.S. You don't deserve anything.

wow?

deserve. That has nothing to do with it, I cant imagine a level headed fan thinks we should win 3 superbowls out of every 5 years.

the complaint here is to Try and be better, try and do it the right way. At least try and do it the conventional way since this crazy way we have been operating has no success.

and using the bills as an example? Come on man, ralph Wilson is 100, he is not on the radio twice a week and doesnt have his own tv show. You are equating fans not being able to tolerate losing to what we are all asking for.

Every team is going to lose, the fans just want to see something being built, something organized in a way that tells us someone has an idea of what they are doing and how they are going to react tomorrow.

and comparing the bills and cowboys again is silly because the bills have no money. Dallas has more money than anyone. If jerry put it out there that he is willing to give over the football operations and stay out of the way General Managers would be lining up for this job.

The bills have tyrone wheatley and ike hilliard as their rb and wr coach for crying out loud.

We should be better but we are not for the same reasons year after year, the jones family wont get out of the way and the coaches they hire are all lousy and answer to Jerry.

calling fans crybabies because they are asking for some form of structure and want to see a solid plan heading forward is beyond ignorant and one of the silliest things I have read here.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I listened to the audio last night. I knew he didn't say winning was secondary. This is the issue I have with people that have a vendetta against Jerry; you lose credibility when you make things up. If Jerry is so bad and you hate him so much, then you should not have to make up anything in order to get your point across.

Even still, I was waiting to hear where he implied that winning was secondary. I don't see how he implied it. He was asked if he worried about the fans being apathetic and he replied that the game was entertaining so they were going to keep coming back. For him to imply that winning was secondary I would have had to hear something along the lines of how filling the stadium was the most important thing they focus on.

I fully believe that winning is the most important thing to Jerry. However, I think Jerry wants to have his cake and eat it, too. He doesn't want to just win the game, he wants to hit a walk-off grand slam in the bottom of the 9th with 2 outs. He wants the wins and all of the credit and glory. Sadly, I think if the fans and media had given him credit for his first 3 Super Bowl wins, I tend to think he would no longer be GM of the team. I think he's always craved that lack of credit. Tough to blame him, he hired his buddy and everybody thought Jimmy was some joke that should be coaching high school. He traded away Herschel Walker for draft picks and everybody thought that was crazy. And I think he may have been the only owner to keep a coach that goes 1-15.

In the end, what Jerry said was an indictment of these people that feign outrage. If you're really outraged by him and his actions, go find another team. I was all prepared to if I felt he implied that 'winning is secondary.' I have no interest in rooting for a team that feels that way. But for all of the bluster and outrage, these so called 'fans' are nothing but marks for Jerry. They are the ones that will say that they can't stand him and no longer love the franchise, until the next Sunday when they are right there watching the team on TV.

If you really want to make a change, stop rooting for the team. Stop coming on Cowboys message boards. Stop watching them on TV. Stop buying merchandise. Stop being members of their Facebook page. Stop visiting the Web site. Put your proverbial 'money where your mouth is.' Otherwise, you're just as guilty as having things run the way they are because Jerry will never stop until he sees a real change. And you'll continue to look like a hypocrite.







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