Jerry loved him some Brandon Weeden

[tyke1doe]

That makes one of us.

That makes the only one who matters.

 

[Doomsday101]

They had a RB with over 140 and a WR with over 160..Game over

True but I think the running attack by Alt had a lot to do with it. Alt ran the ball well through out the game while Jones was held to a modest total. 2nd half Jones goes off but much of that due to little safety help as Dallas was pulling safeties up on run support.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

I think for the most part Dallas got out of Weeden what they were hoping to get. I don't think Cowboys expected to have the defense to be out physical by Alt.

This.

Weeden did what was asked of him: drive the bus. His only mistake was trying to be the playmaker and throwing the pick when he scrambled.

I don't know that he was scared to go downfield as much as they asked him to use the underneath stuff because they (coaches) thought they could be successful. They were until Atlanta changed their approach and Dallas failed to counter.

IMO, Dallas failed to counter because they expected more from the defense. TOP was their goal and, as a team, they failed.

 

[LittleD]

I hope someone has a chance to look at the all-22 after this game to see what was going on in the second half and if anything was open downfield. Yes, the defense lost this game by not being able to stop the run, but basically the minute Weeden needed to do more then throw extended handoffs he basically crumbled and just continued to throw them anyway. It makes you wonder if the early deep throw was just set up for the rest of the game to try to keep them honest. There was just no sense of urgency or awareness about him. I think the guy really wants to be a backup and not get hit. Some of his comments during the week were not what you would hope to hear coming out of a QB before they get to go play. I can see him getting the start against the Saints to see how he responds but hopefully there is a short leash if he is not able to execute or even attempt to execute plays to get the defense away from stacking the box.

Yea, someone got open. He was Julio Jones and the all-22 showed Carr giving up to 9 yards in clearance to Julio on every
pass. Carr...at this point, couldn't cover a stationary basket of peaches. Why not give White a chance to cover him, Geez.

 

[BrassCowboy]

TOP is not one side of the ball it is both. Defense has to get off the field. Alt was able to run the ball just as Cowboys did last year and what happened with defense could not stop out run? I agree Linehan needs to call some plays to attack down the field. But as I have mentioned Weeden followed the game plan that is what should be expected not him improvising. He did what was asked and that I can not and will not blame Weeden for.

our offense cannot match up with Atlantas offense at all, so that puts alot more pressure on our defense which in turn wore them down which then makes their offense even better which then wears our defense down..... classic football 101. We used to do it all the time in early 90s with Emmitt and since Emmitt have tried to reduplicate that to no success.

Weeden followed his gameplan that the coaches gave him because they know he is a twit and cannot pass the ball more than 3 yards at a time. The fact that Weeden successfully dinked and dunked the ball for 2 1/2 quarters does not change the fact that Weeden will not win us games. Blaming defense for being human will not change the fact that our offense gave no help in second half whatsoever leaving the entire second half practically up to them to never get tired especially when we have several DLmen out with injury or suspension.

It is easy to blame defense because yes 28 points at half should assure you a win, but circumstances in and out of your control do come into play also. we got beat at our own game plain and simple. The only one left holding the bag is a QB with a weak arm.

The one question you have to ask now is will it be any better with him next game and games after that? This defense played better than what they were thought to be capable of for the past year because they had a QB and an offense that kept them off the field longer than you are taking to read this post.

 

[Doomsday101]

our offense cannot match up with Atlantas offense at all, so that puts alot more pressure on our defense which in turn wore them down which then makes their offense even better which then wears our defense down..... classic football 101. We used to do it all the time in early 90s with Emmitt and since Emmitt have tried to reduplicate that to no success.

Weeden followed his gameplan that the coaches gave him because they know he is a twit and cannot pass the ball more than 3 yards at a time. The fact that Weeden successfully dinked and dunked the ball for 2 1/2 quarters does not change the fact that Weeden will not win us games. Blaming defense for being human will not change the fact that our offense gave no help in second half whatsoever leaving the entire second half practically up to them to never get tired especially when we have several DLmen out with injury or suspension.

It is easy to blame defense because yes 28 points at half should assure you a win, but circumstances in and out of your control do come into play also. we got beat at our own game plain and simple. The only one left holding the bag is a QB with a weak arm.

The one question you have to ask now is will it be any better with him next game and games after that? This defense played better than what they were thought to be capable of for the past year because they had a QB and an offense that kept them off the field longer than you are taking to read this post.

BS, Weeden has a big arm, they played safe that was the mistake the coaches made. It is easy to blame defense they could not stop the run all day long, they gave up 141 and 3 rushing TD that Freeman got with ease, they made Freeman a guy who avg 3.7 a carry look like AP out there. You think Weeden has a weak arm? you have no clue lol

 

[rynochop]

Im sure everyone here have taken 28 points and one int going into the game. Its just the `13 defense showed up

 

[BrassCowboy]

Think you are right
Weeden didn't play bad, he played the best he could and that wasn't good enough
No reason for the owner or the staff to go out and bash him in public
Just get Cassel ready and move on
Weeden is still going to be the backup if Cassel starts so why bash him when you may need him again this year
I just hope Cassel can be ready this week

this i agree with. Weeden is just not that good so we can only ask so much of him. No need to bash him when we obviously are keeping him around knowing it. Get Cassell ready and move on

 

[BrassCowboy]

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BS, Weeden has a big arm, they played safe that was the mistake the coaches made. It is easy to blame defense they could not stop the run all day long, they gave up 141 and 3 rushing TD that Freeman got with ease, they made Freeman a guy who avg 3.7 a carry look like AP out there. You think Weeden has a weak arm? you have no clue lol

Weeden has a big arm yes, means nothing when it comes to accuracy. I don't blame the coaching staff at all, I wouldnt trust Weeden either throwing the ball down the field. That is what I meant by not being able to. He is not good enough to do it. The two throws he threw that were long was overthrows to Witten. Could of easily been picked off. Thrown any more than just a few and they probably would of been. So yeah Weeden did a good job with the little gameplan they had for him, but Atlanta is not a small opponent so we needed a better QB to win this game and no opponent from here on out will come to play without seeing Weeden for what he is from here on out.

As far as D. Freeman, yeah I agree with you 100% He killed us because for one he just outplayed what our defense could dish out as he wore them down, and two our defense knew Matt Ryan was very capable of stretching this defense wide and making our defense pay big time if they worked up to stop the run. That is the difference. That is not making excuse for our defense, just showing you the difference in offenses and the respect opponents must give based on what your offense is capable of doing. As long as Weeden cant be trusted to throw downfield often and hence is not a threat, defenses will move up and stop both the run and those dinks and dunks as was very evident in the second half of our Atlanta game.

 

[Doomsday101]

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Weeden has a big arm yes, means nothing when it comes to accuracy. I don't blame the coaching staff at all, I wouldnt trust Weeden either throwing the ball down the field. That is what I meant by not being able to. He is not good enough to do it. The two throws he threw that were long was overthrows to Witten. Could of easily been picked off. Thrown any more than just a few and they probably would of been. So yeah Weeden did a good job with the little gameplan they had for him, but Atlanta is not a small opponent so we needed a better QB to win this game and no opponent from here on out will come to play without seeing Weeden for what he is from here on out.

As far as D. Freeman, yeah I agree with you 100% He killed us because for one he just outplayed what our defense could dish out as he wore them down, and two our defense knew Matt Ryan was very capable of stretching this defense wide and making our defense pay big time if they worked up to stop the run. That is the difference. That is not making excuse for our defense, just showing you the difference in offenses and the respect opponents must give based on what your offense is capable of doing. As long as Weeden cant be trusted to throw downfield often and hence is not a threat, defenses will move up and stop both the run and those dinks and dunks as was very evident in the second half of our Atlanta game.

He played well yesterday he does not call the plays, he carried out the game plan the coaches put in place. He was hitting guys for the most part in stride that is that is how they were getting the yards after the catch. Yes the Witten pass in the seams was high and the int he threw was a poor decision on his part and yet after the int he was able to get back out and lead the offense down the field for a TD to once again put us up by 14.
This is too funny you start off the last comment of his weak arm oh but now he not have a weak arm. Too fricken funny. You want mindless lash out at Weeden be my guest, after all those who do not know always turn to the QB as the fault for any loss. People have done the same to Romo they have little clue so you turn to the one player.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Weeden is the worst starter in the league hands down, and Julio Jones is the best WR in the league as well.


Keeping #11 off the field was on # Dumbarse.

As bad of a decision as keeping #copout, the decision for bringing in a #Real QB makes up for #Jerrys'idiocy.

 

[Kevinicus]

Can someone point to the exact plays where Weeden was awful in the 2nd half?

Was it on 2nd and 26? 3rd and 23? Should he have been taking risky shots downfield then?
Was it on his 2nd and 14 throw to TW? How about on 3rd and 14?
Maybe the 2nd and 8 that was a first down to Witten?
Maybe the 2nd and 12 that was incomplete? Or the 3rd and 12 that was dumped off to Dunbar? (This one I would agree that maybe an attempt beyond the chains would have been wise, but not if nobody was open).
How about the 6 yard catch by Beasely on 2nd and 9? The sack on 3rd and 3?
The final drive when the game was pretty much over? There I'd agree he probably should have been more aggressive. Of course TW dropped it when it came his way.

Please don't tell me you think he should have been throwing more to the WRs in the first half when we were walking up and down the field and scoring TDs every drive?

Weeden was not placed in very good positions in the 2nd half, and only maybe 1 or 2 plays (in the 2nd half) would I say you could really criticize him for prior to the Cowboys going down by 11.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Can someone point to the exact plays where Weeden was awful in the 2nd half?

Was it on 2nd and 26? 3rd and 23? Should he have been taking risky shots downfield then?
Was it on his 2nd and 14 throw to TW? How about on 3rd and 14?
Maybe the 2nd and 8 that was a first down to Witten?
Maybe the 2nd and 12 that was incomplete? Or the 3rd and 12 that was dumped off to Dunbar? (This one I would agree that maybe an attempt beyond the chains would have been wise, but not if nobody was open).
How about the 6 yard catch by Beasely on 2nd and 9? The sack on 3rd and 3?
The final drive when the game was pretty much over? There I'd agree he probably should have been more aggressive. Of course TW dropped it when it came his way.

Please don't tell me you think he should have been throwing more to the WRs in the first half when we were walking up and down the field and scoring TDs every drive?

Weeden was not placed in very good positions in the 2nd half, and only maybe 1 or 2 plays (in the 2nd half) would I say you could really criticize him for prior to the Cowboys going down by 11.

But Weeden only connected on a pedestrian 85% of his passes... Cassel will easily throw for 90%. Oh, and he'll throw jump balls to Devin Street. That will make them back off the line, alright... jump balls to Devin Street and the sure-handed Williams. Cassel won't squander these weapons like the inaccurate Weeden.

 

[DallasCowboys2080]

Weeden never looked at his wideouts the entire game, except for the two HUGE drops by TWill. When Atlanta went man to man on the outside and stacked the middle and short zones, the QB must make at least an attempt at the long ball to back the defense off. Not once did Cowboys test those corners.

good point. question is is that on weeden or the coaches gameplan for weeden? meaning weeden played within the gameplan the coaches gave him? or should we expect the coaches to expect to open up the playbook more for weeden? something tells me they cant because thats over weedens head.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Kellen Moore was pretty ballsy when he played in college.

College isn't the NFL. We aren't going to let our season ride on a QB who's never started a game.

 

[BrassCowboy]

He played well yesterday he does not call the plays, he carried out the game plan the coaches put in place. He was hitting guys for the most part in stride that is that is how they were getting the yards after the catch. Yes the Witten pass in the seams was high and the int he threw was a poor decision on his part and yet after the int he was able to get back out and lead the offense down the field for a TD to once again put us up by 14.
This is too funny you start off the last comment of his weak arm oh but now he not have a weak arm. Too fricken funny. You want mindless lash out at Weeden be my guest, after all those who do not know always turn to the QB as the fault for any loss. People have done the same to Romo they have little clue so you turn to the one player.

wow really? do you really think I believe the guy cant actually throw beyond 5 yards as if I meant that literally??? well next time I will have to remember to spell it out in more detail.

and if you think I am blaming this entire loss on the QB, you are mistaken. I think he is a huge reason though but not so much directly as indirectly based on his abilities, I mean he is a backup afterall. Our loss has multiple reasons, defensive injuries and suspensions, defensive struggled stopping the run, two finesse type running backs when we need a power back, Oline struggling to open running lanes, lack of adjustments by coaching staff, VERY poorly called offensive game plan with the dinks and dunks (should of forced Weeden to play the game that would of given us the best chance at winning), Romo not playing, No Dez, T. Williams dropping balls and not being used correctly, and of course our backup QB not being that good plain and simple.

 

[Alexander]

Jerry loved him some Costa too.

 

[BrassCowboy]

Can someone point to the exact plays where Weeden was awful in the 2nd half?

Was it on 2nd and 26? 3rd and 23? Should he have been taking risky shots downfield then?
Was it on his 2nd and 14 throw to TW? How about on 3rd and 14?
Maybe the 2nd and 8 that was a first down to Witten?
Maybe the 2nd and 12 that was incomplete? Or the 3rd and 12 that was dumped off to Dunbar? (This one I would agree that maybe an attempt beyond the chains would have been wise, but not if nobody was open).
How about the 6 yard catch by Beasely on 2nd and 9? The sack on 3rd and 3?
The final drive when the game was pretty much over? There I'd agree he probably should have been more aggressive. Of course TW dropped it when it came his way.

Please don't tell me you think he should have been throwing more to the WRs in the first half when we were walking up and down the field and scoring TDs every drive?

Weeden was not placed in very good positions in the 2nd half, and only maybe 1 or 2 plays (in the 2nd half) would I say you could really criticize him for prior to the Cowboys going down by 11.

It had less to do with what Weeden could do, but more to do with what he couldn't. In the second half, Atlanta adjusted and stacked the defense closer to the line which accomplished two things: It made it impossible to run for these two RBs we have, and it took away alot of those dinks and dunks that weeden would only do whether it be by design like some think or because he gets scared to throw it downfield and instead opts for the short passes over the line.
If by design (coaches designed the gameplan of all short throws), then Weeden did everything he should of which worked in first half, but stopped working when Atlanta made the correct defensive adjustments after half. This would then mean, our coaching staff is so inept as to not adjust properly to what Atlanta is doing. Of course the defense is going to stack the line and play closer to the box, that is where the action is. The Falcons even said so pointing out the fact that Weeden would never challenge them downfield.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

The fact is Brandon Weeden is not a good QB. He played a lot better than I expected. I don't know how anyone could have expected more. The defense though let us down big time.

 

[Hoofbite]

Haven't had a chance to watch the whole game on Rewind, but whether it was because of a lack of ability or willingness on Weeden's part or because of design by the coaches, if you have a QB who won't/can't take shots down field in the NFL you're asking to lose.

It really doesn't matter if it's because Weeden sucks or the coaches have so little confidence in him to handle the role, the outcome is the same. Either way, the team should have moved on from Weeden.