CFZ Jerry makes it clear: He cares more about himself than this once great organization

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I’m not shocked. It’s not a post it’s a question.

NFL players in general like money. So how come on other teams, they actually win?

KC. Paying multiple players, but they win.
Baltimore. Paying multiple players. Win
Philly. Paying multiple players. Win
San Fran. Paying multiple players. Win.

I can continue the list if you like.

The reason behind that. Other than having ownership and a GM in lockstep about winning football games not about how to generate more revenue. They have a culture focused on winning.

In Dallas the focus is look at me and if I don’t like the coach yelling I’m running to Jerry. Jerry compounds that look at me attitude with the tours and the fluff. And it shows up on the field when the team arrives thinking they will win the game solely because they showed up.

Preparation in football is very important. When is the last time you saw this team prepared for an opponent? Kind of hard to do that when practice gets interrupted by helicopter landings.
Not surprising.
Again...how do you prevent the situation?

I guess you can try and gaslight me by pointing the finger at me and trying to tell me I dont make sense.
 

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How do you prevent this situation from reoccurring? How do you govern this situation? Ban Jerry from League? NFL owns all teams? Owners not allowed to be GM's?
There is no way to prevent this from happening most normal thinking owners put someone who's professionally capable at the job of general manager.

Because their focus is primarily winning a super bowl understanding that they will make plenty of money along the way to that goal.

Our problem is Jerry's priorities are much different than all the rest of the normal owners in the NFL.
Jerry's focus is being a comfortable celebrity on the most profitable team in sports and he has more than achieve that along with his previous super bowl trophies and Hall of Fame induction.

Most normal thinking people would believe that was enough and that he would throw the fans of the team a bone and actually go all in to win a championship after 30 years without one.

But not Jerry at 80 some years old Fame and Fortune is still foremost in his mind and US fans suck the Hind bit while waiting for someone to make Jerry an offer he can't refuse buy the team and give us some hope again.

In short the NFL is not going to legislate that owners can't be general managers.
So we are stuck in sort of an NFL purgatory with a never ending string of Jerry's descendants ready to take over where he leaves off.
 

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Among the many frustrating and mind-numbing things we have had to put up with having Jerry Jones be our GM forever, we can now add something that is crystal clear is like never before: He cares more about himself and his gigantic ego than he cares about the great history and reputation of the Dallas Cowboys.

This team was once the pride of our state, our community, and to a certain degree, the whole NFL. Today, I saw more people laughing and shaking their heads about what has gone on with this team, it’s (lack of) leadership, it’s over-hyped marketing and worse…it’s obvious lack of seriousness about trying to win a championship. I never thought I would see people in multiple media outlets literally laughing at the state of the once proud Cowboys.

Frankly, if Jerry Jones really cared about the great history and reputation of this once proud and storied franchise, he would step down. But the evidence now is crystal clear: Jerry does NOT care as much about the great franchise known as the Dallas Cowboys as he cares about himself.

And for everyone who says, “Yeah but he made this the most valuable franchise in sports”, let us consider that Jerry did not make this franchise “the most valuable” by himself nor did the Cowboys franchise become that solely because of what Jerry did since he bought the team in 1989.

I‘ve said this many times - Jerry deserves some credit for sure for making the Cowboys more valuable than ever. BUT…let’s be clear…He did not buy the browns or the jaguars. He bought the team that had been known as “America’s Team” for over a decade before anyone had ever heard of Jerry Jones. The team had already won 20 of its current 35 playoff wins before he bought the team.

Jerry cares way more about himself and his entitled children than he does for this great sports franchise we all grew up loving. Let’s not pretend he cares about the Cowboys. He only cares about himself.
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The press has to quit tolerating is nonsense.
 

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The press has to quit tolerating is nonsense.
Agreed it would be nice to see the press Hammer him constantly like he's holding this team and fan base hostage with his antics and lack of serious focus on winning a championship
 

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I agree with the criticism Jerry is getting, assuming the relevance/money over winning Championships is the root of the problem...

What sucks about the situation for me is...

...drum roll...

Having Hope for a season is so much better than not having any. Hard rebuilds take consecutive years to pull off. Sure...some like Howey have done it quickly(2 years)...but nothing is guaranteed.

My personal opinion, which unfortunately reinforces the relevance/money school of thought, is that having hope every year is more exciting than the roller coaster of 3 years rebuilding and then having a 3 year window to win.

Those years between Aikman and Romo were just awful...and thats what a rebuild is like. And...that rebuild is not guaranteed to go quickly or smoothly.

The Hope is like a morphine drip in this situation. I really really really would hate to sit through 3 years of crap rebuilding teams to POSSIBLY have a chance at a trophy.

Just my personal opinion. The 'staying at the rim' and hoping things align and we win a SB is more stimulating for me, as a fan, than 3 years of rebuilding. Regardless...the common denominator is HOPING...no matter which way you choose.
 

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Among the many frustrating and mind-numbing things we have had to put up with having Jerry Jones be our GM forever, we can now add something that is crystal clear is like never before: He cares more about himself and his gigantic ego than he cares about the great history and reputation of the Dallas Cowboys.

This team was once the pride of our state, our community, and to a certain degree, the whole NFL. Today, I saw more people laughing and shaking their heads about what has gone on with this team, it’s (lack of) leadership, it’s over-hyped marketing and worse…it’s obvious lack of seriousness about trying to win a championship. I never thought I would see people in multiple media outlets literally laughing at the state of the once proud Cowboys.

Frankly, if Jerry Jones really cared about the great history and reputation of this once proud and storied franchise, he would step down. But the evidence now is crystal clear: Jerry does NOT care as much about the great franchise known as the Dallas Cowboys as he cares about himself.

And for everyone who says, “Yeah but he made this the most valuable franchise in sports”, let us consider that Jerry did not make this franchise “the most valuable” by himself nor did the Cowboys franchise become that solely because of what Jerry did since he bought the team in 1989.

I‘ve said this many times - Jerry deserves some credit for sure for making the Cowboys more valuable than ever. BUT…let’s be clear…He did not buy the browns or the jaguars. He bought the team that had been known as “America’s Team” for over a decade before anyone had ever heard of Jerry Jones. The team had already won 20 of its current 35 playoff wins before he bought the team.

Jerry cares way more about himself and his entitled children than he does for this great sports franchise we all grew up loving. Let’s not pretend he cares about the Cowboys. He only cares about himself.
Unfortunately, for this reason, and a few others, I've lost vested interest in the Cowboys. The 1 common denominator in the lack of success is Jerry Jones but his ego is too big to realize it. Now he's doing a meet and greet with players I hear. No focus on football means no winning games.
 

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What I don't understand is why Jerry can't be satisfied with being recognized as the best in the NFL at marketing the product and making money for all the owners.

Why is it so important for Jerry to be acknowledged for something he never had the experience, credentials, or talent to do?

Again, it's not just being selfish and depriving all Cowboys fans of an NFL football expert that is completely dedicated to the single goal of building a championship team. It is also a blatant insult to all those GMs that are actually committed to just that.

It's like he's trying to tell the rest of the NFL world that the job is so simple he can perform it part time on top of everything else including his other business ventures. He doesn't understand that it has reached a point that, even if he does win a championship, it proves nothing about his "football prowess".

Any team that wins a Super Bowl every 30 years is simply satisfying the Law of Averages. At this point, winning a championship would only reinforce his legacy of mediocrity.
I've said many times....even if we luck up and breakthrough with him in charge....it would be viewed as "a broke clock is right twice a day"!

No GM has gotten as many chances as him....so IF he were to win...it's not as if this "copycat league" would try to follow his blueprint! It would not even register with REAL football people. We have no on the field football identity...we have no concrete plan....no one really knows who if anybody is advising Jerry to extend an injured Gallup, an injured Steele....use a 2nd on a badly injured Jaylon Smith, draft Taco, draft Mazi, draft Kelvin Joseph, draft Luke Schoonmaker....give up a 2nd rd pick AND use a top 5 pick to draft Mo Claiborne (someone they did not even interview). No one knows who talked him out of drafting Johnny Manziel over Zach Martin (a decision he still cried about even after Manziel flamed out and Martin was an All Pro). I could go on and on....but there is no need.

This guy is the worst GM in the history of the NFL when you consider what he has produced on his tenure. I do not count any Super Bowls or playoff wins with the culture Jimmy established and players Jimmy drafted. I evaluate Jerry since he has been the primary architect of this franchise. And he has averaged 1 playoff win every 6 years. He would have been fired as a GM 25 years ago and would not even have gotten a chance to prove that he could only produce 5 playoff wins in 30 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is a guy who told us that if he did not extend Garrett...there would be a long line of Owners/GMs waiting to scoop him up. Garrett gets fired, goes to the Giants as an offensive coordinator...has the 2nd to last ranked offense his first year, and the last ranked offense his second year....and has been OUT THE NFL ever since!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jerry will NEVER be seen as a football man and it's obvious NO ONE in this organization can convince him of this. He is an unhinged raging lunatic!!!!!!!!!
 

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I've said many times....even if we luck up and breakthrough with him in charge....it would be viewed as "a broke clock is right twice a day"!

No GM has gotten as many chances as him....so IF he were to win...it's not as if this "copycat league" would try to follow his blueprint! It would not even register with REAL football people. We have no on the field football identity...we have no concrete plan....no one really knows who if anybody is advising Jerry to extend an injured Gallup, an injured Steele....use a 2nd on a badly injured Jaylon Smith, draft Taco, draft Mazi, draft Kelvin Joseph, draft Luke Schoonmaker....give up a 2nd rd pick AND use a top 5 pick to draft Mo Claiborne (someone they did not even interview). No one knows who talked him out of drafting Johnny Manziel over Zach Martin (a decision he still cried about even after Manziel flamed out and Martin was an All Pro). I could go on and on....but there is no need.

This guy is the worst GM in the history of the NFL when you consider what he has produced on his tenure. I do not count any Super Bowls or playoff wins with the culture Jimmy established and players Jimmy drafted. I evaluate Jerry since he has been the primary architect of this franchise. And he has averaged 1 playoff win every 6 years. He would have been fired as a GM 25 years ago and would not even have gotten a chance to prove that he could only produce 5 playoff wins in 30 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is a guy who told us that if he did not extend Garrett...there would be a long line of Owners/GMs waiting to scoop him up. Garrett gets fired, goes to the Giants as an offensive coordinator...has the 2nd to last ranked offense his first year, and the last ranked offense his second year....and has been OUT THE NFL ever since!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jerry will NEVER be seen as a football man and it's obvious NO ONE in this organization can convince him of this. He is an unhinged raging lunatic!!!!!!!!!
Jerry is not without some blame...

But compared to other teams around the League and being in a Division with other well run teams...Jerry has done well to stay at the rim. There are some trash teams that never even have hope. We only have had that during the Aikman to Romo gap....while lots of other teams are consistently cheeks for years on end even after hiring football guy after football guy to GM.

In a highly competitive industry where GM's come and go often because they dont produce...Jerry has kept his team at the rim which is not easy to do. He's doing something right...or at least hes doing something for an extended period of time that a lot of GM's couldnt do.

Jerry doesnt deserve immunity...but he isnt some idiot that cant run a team(every team signs bad contracts). The problem with Jerry seems to be that he is trying to innovate, make money AND win. Fans want someone with a sole focus of winning...and until the fans get a trophy they are going to hunt for every little thing they can to place blame for no trophy...and Jerry is the one constant.
 

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Jerry is not without some blame...

But compared to other teams around the League and being in a Division with other well run teams...Jerry has done well to stay at the rim. There are some trash teams that never even have hope. We only have had that during the Aikman to Romo gap....while lots of other teams are consistently cheeks for years on end even after hiring football guy after football guy to GM.

In a highly competitive industry where GM's come and go often because they dont produce...Jerry has kept his team at the rim which is not easy to do. He's doing something right...or at least hes doing something for an extended period of time that a lot of GM's couldnt do.

Jerry doesnt deserve immunity...but he isnt some idiot that cant run a team(every team signs bad contracts). The problem with Jerry seems to be that he is trying to innovate, make money AND win. Fans want someone with a sole focus of winning...and until the fans get a trophy they are going to hunt for every little thing they can to place blame for no trophy...and Jerry is the one constant.
LOL.

Not easy to do? This is the new bar? Staying at the rim?

He loves fans like you.

Want to know how to fix it?

You asked for a solution. Here it is.

Jerry steps out of the spotlight, does what owners do. Hires a GM, stays on his yacht and signs cheques. Let football people do their jobs, get off the radio, and turn the Cowboys back into a football team instead of a company trying to make money and losing focus of the goal.

Its not as difficult as you are making it seem.

Bring in a coach with a no nonsense attitude to rid this team of the culture that is rotting it out from the top down. Will it take time? Not as long as you would think as long as Jerry gets out of the way.
 

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Among the many frustrating and mind-numbing things we have had to put up with having Jerry Jones be our GM forever, we can now add something that is crystal clear is like never before: He cares more about himself and his gigantic ego than he cares about the great history and reputation of the Dallas Cowboys.

This team was once the pride of our state, our community, and to a certain degree, the whole NFL. Today, I saw more people laughing and shaking their heads about what has gone on with this team, it’s (lack of) leadership, it’s over-hyped marketing and worse…it’s obvious lack of seriousness about trying to win a championship. I never thought I would see people in multiple media outlets literally laughing at the state of the once proud Cowboys.

Frankly, if Jerry Jones really cared about the great history and reputation of this once proud and storied franchise, he would step down. But the evidence now is crystal clear: Jerry does NOT care as much about the great franchise known as the Dallas Cowboys as he cares about himself.

And for everyone who says, “Yeah but he made this the most valuable franchise in sports”, let us consider that Jerry did not make this franchise “the most valuable” by himself nor did the Cowboys franchise become that solely because of what Jerry did since he bought the team in 1989.

I‘ve said this many times - Jerry deserves some credit for sure for making the Cowboys more valuable than ever. BUT…let’s be clear…He did not buy the browns or the jaguars. He bought the team that had been known as “America’s Team” for over a decade before anyone had ever heard of Jerry Jones. The team had already won 20 of its current 35 playoff wins before he bought the team.

Jerry cares way more about himself and his entitled children than he does for this great sports franchise we all grew up loving. Let’s not pretend he cares about the Cowboys. He only cares about himself.
Narcissism is such a horrible trait in a human being...
 

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Jerry is not without some blame...

But compared to other teams around the League and being in a Division with other well run teams...Jerry has done well to stay at the rim. There are some trash teams that never even have hope. We only have had that during the Aikman to Romo gap....while lots of other teams are consistently cheeks for years on end even after hiring football guy after football guy to GM.

In a highly competitive industry where GM's come and go often because they dont produce...Jerry has kept his team at the rim which is not easy to do. He's doing something right...or at least hes doing something for an extended period of time that a lot of GM's couldnt do.

Jerry doesnt deserve immunity...but he isnt some idiot that cant run a team(every team signs bad contracts). The problem with Jerry seems to be that he is trying to innovate, make money AND win. Fans want someone with a sole focus of winning...and until the fans get a trophy they are going to hunt for every little thing they can to place blame for no trophy...and Jerry is the one constant.

Innovate what? There's nothing new about their process to build a winner unless you are counting decades.

The front office hasn't deviated from it's mindset of draft or bust for restocking the team with talent since ~2014. Ever since the Carr and Thornton signings, they've gone away from mid to high level FA signings.
there's nothing innovational from Jerry in regards to building the team into a winner.

Jerry even did the WR trade for a 1st round pick, something he's done 3 times now with almost the same results.
Him and his son talk about not wanting to overpay outside free agents, pie, leaves to fall, but then hand out day 1 FA deals to their own players which unfortunately age like milk.
 

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I agree with the criticism Jerry is getting, assuming the relevance/money over winning Championships is the root of the problem...

What sucks about the situation for me is...

...drum roll...

Having Hope for a season is so much better than not having any. Hard rebuilds take consecutive years to pull off. Sure...some like Howey have done it quickly(2 years)...but nothing is guaranteed.

My personal opinion, which unfortunately reinforces the relevance/money school of thought, is that having hope every year is more exciting than the roller coaster of 3 years rebuilding and then having a 3 year window to win.

Those years between Aikman and Romo were just awful...and thats what a rebuild is like. And...that rebuild is not guaranteed to go quickly or smoothly.

The Hope is like a morphine drip in this situation. I really really really would hate to sit through 3 years of crap rebuilding teams to POSSIBLY have a chance at a trophy.

Just my personal opinion. The 'staying at the rim' and hoping things align and we win a SB is more stimulating for me, as a fan, than 3 years of rebuilding. Regardless...the common denominator is HOPING...no matter which way you choose.
Correction, the years after Aikman were the years we never got close to an NFC championship appearance. Did Romo play in a conf championship game? Did I miss something?
 

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Literally the best post of the year. All true. What joke Jerry is and has made this franchise.

Are there any Jerry defenders left on this forum after his latest temper tantrum?

#effJerry
Hey hey hey only I declare a post post of the year, day, morning etc lol jk
 

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Among the many frustrating and mind-numbing things we have had to put up with having Jerry Jones be our GM forever, we can now add something that is crystal clear is like never before: He cares more about himself and his gigantic ego than he cares about the great history and reputation of the Dallas Cowboys.

This team was once the pride of our state, our community, and to a certain degree, the whole NFL. Today, I saw more people laughing and shaking their heads about what has gone on with this team, it’s (lack of) leadership, it’s over-hyped marketing and worse…it’s obvious lack of seriousness about trying to win a championship. I never thought I would see people in multiple media outlets literally laughing at the state of the once proud Cowboys.

Frankly, if Jerry Jones really cared about the great history and reputation of this once proud and storied franchise, he would step down. But the evidence now is crystal clear: Jerry does NOT care as much about the great franchise known as the Dallas Cowboys as he cares about himself.

And for everyone who says, “Yeah but he made this the most valuable franchise in sports”, let us consider that Jerry did not make this franchise “the most valuable” by himself nor did the Cowboys franchise become that solely because of what Jerry did since he bought the team in 1989.

I‘ve said this many times - Jerry deserves some credit for sure for making the Cowboys more valuable than ever. BUT…let’s be clear…He did not buy the browns or the jaguars. He bought the team that had been known as “America’s Team” for over a decade before anyone had ever heard of Jerry Jones. The team had already won 20 of its current 35 playoff wins before he bought the team.

Jerry cares way more about himself and his entitled children than he does for this great sports franchise we all grew up loving. Let’s not pretend he cares about the Cowboys. He only cares about himself.
We can only wait this out Bob, I won't say anything else about nevermind lol
 

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The Cowboys are a out of control zoo and our owner does not really care about winning a championship. Meaning doing the things to reduce the distractions, focus on football and use all the tools to put a championship quality team on the field.

He cares about pretending he is the smartest guy in the league, revenue over results and doing just enough to keep the marketing machine humming.

It has been like a 30 year prison sentence, loving your team but clearly understanding their is no championship in our future until the organization changes and the focus is on football and championships first.

Don't see this change anytime soon, you have a billionaire and his son who are isolated and have a different agenda. Until this changes the prison sentence continues.
 

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I have read the entire thread up to this point. It is funny how a supportive viewpoint for Jerry Jones has been introduced as the thread progressed. Reality did not change as a circumstance of literally spinning him.

The NFL is a sports-based business. Plain and simple. Professional football is not an atypical facet of business. It is not an exception as far as successfully conducting business. Successful businesses are run by knowledgeable managers. General managers in the case of football.

In business, what generally happens to managers when goals are not met? Answer. They are fired. They voluntarily step down. Some are even promoted but the underperforming position is filled by another (hopefully) qualified replacement in that instance and every other instance. Timely replacing general managers does not happen all the time in the league but it happens enough that it is a commonplace practice.

In sports, success is not measured in sub .500 seasons. Success is not gained by finishing .500 (which is pretty dang hard to do now with 17-game regular seasons, lol). Success is partially recognized by reaching the postseason but only partly so. True success is attained by competing for and/or winning championships.

At minimum, 'competing for' means playing in a league conference championship game. At maximum, 'competing for' means ending up as the league runner-up. Winning championships is self-explanatory.

Super Bowl XXX was held January 28, 1996. 1996. It is 2024. From the 1996 regular season forward, the Dallas Cowboys general manager has never helped construct a single team, during any particular season, that has competed for or won a league championship.

Jerry Jones should have replaced himself as GM years ago. In my opinion, he should have taken such self-action no later than the end of the 2002 season. Why? Because the teams he fielded, 1996 through 2002, never progressed beyond the wildcard round. Barely finished above .500 once. Finished .500 once. Finished below .500 four times--three times under .500 consecutively. These GM results should have gotten anyone

FIRED!

For almost 30 years, the franchise's main issue has been a business man--an accomplished business man at that despite any criticism--refusing to take a simple, common business action. An action, which may have produced lesser results than those actually seen over this period. An action, which could have produced similar results over this period. An action, which might have ended up with better results over this period. An action, never taken, never tested, because the business man pulling that fantasy trigger is a

narcissist.

This sad, decades long, underachievement, is underscored by a single, undeniable fact. Jerry Jones would have lost nothing by acting like a business man and stepping down as GM. He would have lost zero money. He would have lost zero fame. He would have lost zero self-dignity. In fact, the probability is high that he would have made more money, gained more fame as an owner, and built more self-dignity that observers would have seen in him if he had.

Winning solves all problems. Jerry Jones is a self-made obstacle for winning by not allowing others to make football operational decisions for him. And that is a summation of how much or how little he cares about winning.

/rant

Edit: added 'conference'
 
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I think Jerry told us all this is how he felt when he allowed the riff between himself and Jimmy Johnson to get to the point where Johnson had to leave. If Jerry Jones cared about winning more than himself he would have done everything possible to keep Johnson as the HC. But Jimmy stepped on Jerry's big ego and that was the end of a dynasty.
 
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