CFZ Jerry makes it clear: He cares more about himself than this once great organization

fivetwos

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Jerry Jones is great at marketing and awful at building a winning football team, from the head coach on down.

That somehow creates the narrative that all he cares about is the marketing part. I don’t really agree.

He wants to win badly. Badly… but just isn’t any good at it and can’t accept that. The narcissism makes him truly believe that he is better than he is at it. He hasn’t failed at much otherwise in life and can’t accept it.

So, he will continue to take his shots and call it an advantage.
 

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Jerry is not without some blame...

But compared to other teams around the League and being in a Division with other well run teams...Jerry has done well to stay at the rim. There are some trash teams that never even have hope. We only have had that during the Aikman to Romo gap....while lots of other teams are consistently cheeks for years on end even after hiring football guy after football guy to GM.

In a highly competitive industry where GM's come and go often because they dont produce...Jerry has kept his team at the rim which is not easy to do. He's doing something right...or at least hes doing something for an extended period of time that a lot of GM's couldnt do.

Jerry doesnt deserve immunity...but he isnt some idiot that cant run a team(every team signs bad contracts). The problem with Jerry seems to be that he is trying to innovate, make money AND win. Fans want someone with a sole focus of winning...and until the fans get a trophy they are going to hunt for every little thing they can to place blame for no trophy...and Jerry is the one constant.
5 playoff wins in 28 years? What is he getting right? I would bet EVERY GM in the history of the NFL could produce 5 playoff wins in 28 years if they were allowed to keep the job for 28 STRAIGHT years!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Haha. He’ll only step down for medical reasons or he steps six feet down.

A narcissist won’t concede defeat to his ego saying “I couldn’t do it” due to his own inability.
Having dealt with people with that issue personally, that is absolutely correct. They have no ability to admit being wrong and they always think their way is the only way.
 

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It’s been crystal clear for a long time! It’s all about him and his kid. They are the face of this franchise!
 

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I agree with the criticism Jerry is getting, assuming the relevance/money over winning Championships is the root of the problem...

What sucks about the situation for me is...

...drum roll...

Having Hope for a season is so much better than not having any. Hard rebuilds take consecutive years to pull off. Sure...some like Howey have done it quickly(2 years)...but nothing is guaranteed.

My personal opinion, which unfortunately reinforces the relevance/money school of thought, is that having hope every year is more exciting than the roller coaster of 3 years rebuilding and then having a 3 year window to win.

Those years between Aikman and Romo were just awful...and thats what a rebuild is like. And...that rebuild is not guaranteed to go quickly or smoothly.

The Hope is like a morphine drip in this situation. I really really really would hate to sit through 3 years of crap rebuilding teams to POSSIBLY have a chance at a trophy.

Just my personal opinion. The 'staying at the rim' and hoping things align and we win a SB is more stimulating for me, as a fan, than 3 years of rebuilding. Regardless...the common denominator is HOPING...no matter which way you choose.
The problem is rolling around the rim is unfortunately a bridge too far from the slam dunk of winning the super bowl.

We make one revolution around the rim and rim out we don't even roll around a couple times and get to the NFC championship.

Jerry constantly concentrates on his comfort as far as coaching is concerned and keeps us a good head coach and about three or four players away from seriously competing for a title consistently.

His method gives hope for a while but once you see it play out over and over and know how far we really are away it becomes outrageously frustrating
 

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5 playoff wins in 28 years? What is he getting right? I would bet EVERY GM in the history of the NFL could produce 5 playoff wins in 28 years if they were allowed to keep the job for 28 STRAIGHT years!!!!!!!!!!!!
Better yet, I think many of us on this forum could produce more than 5 playoff wins in 28 years as GM.
 

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I agree with the criticism Jerry is getting, assuming the relevance/money over winning Championships is the root of the problem...

What sucks about the situation for me is...

...drum roll...

Having Hope for a season is so much better than not having any. Hard rebuilds take consecutive years to pull off. Sure...some like Howey have done it quickly(2 years)...but nothing is guaranteed.

My personal opinion, which unfortunately reinforces the relevance/money school of thought, is that having hope every year is more exciting than the roller coaster of 3 years rebuilding and then having a 3 year window to win.

Those years between Aikman and Romo were just awful...and thats what a rebuild is like. And...that rebuild is not guaranteed to go quickly or smoothly.

The Hope is like a morphine drip in this situation. I really really really would hate to sit through 3 years of crap rebuilding teams to POSSIBLY have a chance at a trophy.

Just my personal opinion. The 'staying at the rim' and hoping things align and we win a SB is more stimulating for me, as a fan, than 3 years of rebuilding. Regardless...the common denominator is HOPING...no matter which way you choose.
If Jerry would just be owner and sign the checks, get a non Jones GM come in and Jerry stay in his lane, I would be all for re-building even if it takes a couple years... Look, we've waited 29 years with what we currently have. What's another couple of years if Jerry stays in his lane and let the non Jones GM do his job without meddling and let the head coach do his job without meddling.? But it will never happen.
 

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Unfortunately, Jerry is unstoppable. He has done too much for the post-playing careers of many former Cowboys. Guys like Aikman, Emmitt and Irvin all know the way the franchise is run is a joke but they will never completely turn on Jerry because they still respect him.

Jerry will always have defenders in his corner...unlike someone like Dan Snyder who was eventually forced out. And since they have established the Cowboys as a Jones Family business, there's no stopping this thing.
 

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How do you prevent sports being turned into "Sports Entertainment"?

Its always been a duality...sport and business...but how do you keep the task of winning Championships as taking precedence over money?

You really cant. The players playing the game prefer larger and larger paychecks. Many players would choose to play for a money making Organization(NFL) than a Non-Profit Organization focused on Championships. Fans want the Championships, Organization and players want more money.

If refusing to do hard rebuilds that take 2 to 4 years to implement because of relevance/money...or refusing to switch QB's because of relevance/money...what is one supposed to do?

Assuming Jerry isnt doing what is needed to win Championships because of relevance/money...the only way to prevent this is to not allow owners of individual teams.
The Salary Cap renders your point completely false. It’s the same for the 2nd most valuable or profitable team as the 1st. Or the 32nd for that matter.
 

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The problem is rolling around the rim is unfortunately a bridge too far from the slam dunk of winning the super bowl.

We make one revolution around the rim and rim out we don't even roll around a couple times and get to the NFC championship.

Jerry constantly concentrates on his comfort as far as coaching is concerned and keeps us a good head coach and about three or four players away from seriously competing for a title consistently.

His method gives hope for a while but once you see it play out over and over and know how far we really are away it becomes outrageously frustrating
CZ is essentially a support group for me and this is about perfect.

Exactly spot on. Thank you.
 

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Among the many frustrating and mind-numbing things we have had to put up with having Jerry Jones be our GM forever, we can now add something that is crystal clear is like never before: He cares more about himself and his gigantic ego than he cares about the great history and reputation of the Dallas Cowboys.

This team was once the pride of our state, our community, and to a certain degree, the whole NFL. Today, I saw more people laughing and shaking their heads about what has gone on with this team, it’s (lack of) leadership, it’s over-hyped marketing and worse…it’s obvious lack of seriousness about trying to win a championship. I never thought I would see people in multiple media outlets literally laughing at the state of the once proud Cowboys.

Frankly, if Jerry Jones really cared about the great history and reputation of this once proud and storied franchise, he would step down. But the evidence now is crystal clear: Jerry does NOT care as much about the great franchise known as the Dallas Cowboys as he cares about himself.

And for everyone who says, “Yeah but he made this the most valuable franchise in sports”, let us consider that Jerry did not make this franchise “the most valuable” by himself nor did the Cowboys franchise become that solely because of what Jerry did since he bought the team in 1989.

I‘ve said this many times - Jerry deserves some credit for sure for making the Cowboys more valuable than ever. BUT…let’s be clear…He did not buy the browns or the jaguars. He bought the team that had been known as “America’s Team” for over a decade before anyone had ever heard of Jerry Jones. The team had already won 20 of its current 35 playoff wins before he bought the team.

Jerry cares way more about himself and his entitled children than he does for this great sports franchise we all grew up loving. Let’s not pretend he cares about the Cowboys. He only cares about himself.
Bob, some of what you say may be true but Jerry looks at the entire picture and looking at that he concludes he is doing everything right, money, popularity, prime time games, market setting contracts, he views the team failures to win anything meaningful to coaches and bad luck. Look at the statements over the years, rosters filled with great players, top elite QBs, top WR RB the list goes on and on. He in his mind is a great football guy and great talent evaluator and nothing is changing that, we all know how involved he is in everything not only from his mouth but former players and he has set up the organization with family friends and yes men at all important positions and he wants to win a championship but he must get all the credit it’s who he is and nothing is going to change that view. Everything the Cowboys have done he feels he is the reason for the success, just look at the ring of honor it’s now just a Jerry guy thing and he has said no more pre Jerry players going in. It’s sad but Jerry believes every year any coach can take the great wealth of talent he has assembled and win a SB it’s not his fault the dance did go his way in his mind and as long as he’s alive nothing is changing until death or debilitating illness strikes him down. If a miracle happens he will proudly exclaim I was right and all you people were wrong.
 

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LOL.

Not easy to do? This is the new bar? Staying at the rim?

He loves fans like you.

Want to know how to fix it?

You asked for a solution. Here it is.

Jerry steps out of the spotlight, does what owners do. Hires a GM, stays on his yacht and signs cheques. Let football people do their jobs, get off the radio, and turn the Cowboys back into a football team instead of a company trying to make money and losing focus of the goal.

Its not as difficult as you are making it seem.

Bring in a coach with a no nonsense attitude to rid this team of the culture that is rotting it out from the top down. Will it take time? Not as long as you would think as long as Jerry gets out of the way.
None of that is going to happen.

So...again...Im right back to "How do you prevent this from happening?"

Fans dont like Jerry's ways...but all the Owners like the growing or revenue he is doing for the League and the Players like the larger paychecks.

Jerry is a villain to his own team...but all players across the league and all owners across the league like the revenue he brings. Hard to force someone out that everyone IN THE INDUSTRY benefits from.
 

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Innovate what? There's nothing new about their process to build a winner unless you are counting decades.

The front office hasn't deviated from it's mindset of draft or bust for restocking the team with talent since ~2014. Ever since the Carr and Thornton signings, they've gone away from mid to high level FA signings.
there's nothing innovational from Jerry in regards to building the team into a winner.

Jerry even did the WR trade for a 1st round pick, something he's done 3 times now with almost the same results.
Him and his son talk about not wanting to overpay outside free agents, pie, leaves to fall, but then hand out day 1 FA deals to their own players which unfortunately age like milk.
Innovate on the business side of things...not on the football side.
 

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Correction, the years after Aikman were the years we never got close to an NFC championship appearance. Did Romo play in a conf championship game? Did I miss something?
Dez non-catch? That was Jerry's fault for being on the wrong side of the refs?

Again...Jerry is fielding some decent talent teams WHILE getting his money.

Everyone on this board will say Jerry's team are trash just to be negative.

Jerry wants to make money and win. No other GM is faced with that. And Jerry isnt kicking money to the side to win trophies. If its the root of the problem...again...Im back to "How do you prevent all owners or future owners from turning a sport into a watered down sport that is about money first?"
 

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None of that is going to happen.

So...again...Im right back to "How do you prevent this from happening?"

Fans dont like Jerry's ways...but all the Owners like the growing or revenue he is doing for the League and the Players like the larger paychecks.

Jerry is a villain to his own team...but all players across the league and all owners across the league like the revenue he brings. Hard to force someone out that everyone IN THE INDUSTRY benefits from.
Yep unfortunately the fans aren't classified in the industry because we don't benefit from the money he brings the players and the league.
We suffer from the horrible culture he cultivates the business decisions that are made on the field his desire to make money at all costs and keep the Cowboys relevant rather than competitive.

The only way to stop it is for a true cowboy fan with much more money than Jerry to arise and make Jerry an offer he can't refuse an amount of money that Jerry can't even turn down.

Then build the team from a fan standpoint with a win the super bowl at all cost mentality and the profits we get are a nice consolation prize make it about football again.
Only somebody truly appreciates football and doesn't need the money to do this
 
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