CFZ Jerry makes it clear: He cares more about himself than this once great organization

Blackrain

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Dez non-catch? That was Jerry's fault for being on the wrong side of the refs?

Again...Jerry is fielding some decent talent teams WHILE getting his money.

Everyone on this board will say Jerry's team are trash just to be negative.

Jerry wants to make money and win. No other GM is faced with that. And Jerry isnt kicking money to the side to win trophies. If its the root of the problem...again...Im back to "How do you prevent all owners or future owners from turning a sport into a watered down sport that is about money first?"
Why do you keep asking this question when you already know the answer.

The league needs to make all teams be run like the Green Bay Packers to keep things honest and legitimate for the fans.

The fans own the Packers and the fans want to win super bowls it's a non-profit organization.
 

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Among the many frustrating and mind-numbing things we have had to put up with having Jerry Jones be our GM forever, we can now add something that is crystal clear is like never before: He cares more about himself and his gigantic ego than he cares about the great history and reputation of the Dallas Cowboys.

This team was once the pride of our state, our community, and to a certain degree, the whole NFL. Today, I saw more people laughing and shaking their heads about what has gone on with this team, it’s (lack of) leadership, it’s over-hyped marketing and worse…it’s obvious lack of seriousness about trying to win a championship. I never thought I would see people in multiple media outlets literally laughing at the state of the once proud Cowboys.

Frankly, if Jerry Jones really cared about the great history and reputation of this once proud and storied franchise, he would step down. But the evidence now is crystal clear: Jerry does NOT care as much about the great franchise known as the Dallas Cowboys as he cares about himself.

And for everyone who says, “Yeah but he made this the most valuable franchise in sports”, let us consider that Jerry did not make this franchise “the most valuable” by himself nor did the Cowboys franchise become that solely because of what Jerry did since he bought the team in 1989.

I‘ve said this many times - Jerry deserves some credit for sure for making the Cowboys more valuable than ever. BUT…let’s be clear…He did not buy the browns or the jaguars. He bought the team that had been known as “America’s Team” for over a decade before anyone had ever heard of Jerry Jones. The team had already won 20 of its current 35 playoff wins before he bought the team.

Jerry cares way more about himself and his entitled children than he does for this great sports franchise we all grew up loving. Let’s not pretend he cares about the Cowboys. He only cares about himself.
Bob you forgot about making $$$$$$$$$$$$$ !!!!!!!!!!
I think he loves making $$$$$$$$ more than anything else.
He doesnt care so much about the money he makes, it is the making of it he enjoys, then he likes to brag about it.

The cowboys are his toy, and he likes playing with that 2nd most, and if he stepped aside, that would no longer be fun,
so he will be gm and spokes person for the cowboys as long as he is able too.

As far as his kids, the legitimate ones lol, none of them even have 1 billion to their name, jerry hogs the billions for himself.
Stephen made some money in investments, so he has close to 1 billion, charlotte is around 400 million, poor girl!

Jerry likes to enjoy himself, so making $, and playing at GM he will do as long as physically able.
Jerry doesnt play golf , He only plays real life monopoly, and then the cowboys thats it.

I think when he bought the cowboys, he did care about the team a little, but by the time jimmy left, the cowboys were his team and toy,
and he doesnt care about pre jerry cowboys, or the fans who want to win SB's etc.

We are stuck with him for many many years, so Dont expect too much from cowboys, and it is bearable .
 

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Why do you keep asking this question when you already know the answer.

The league needs to make all teams be run like the Green Bay Packers to keep things honest and legitimate for the fans.

The fans own the Packers and the fans want to win super bowls it's a non-profit organization.
the nfl outlawed that concept !! lol
no other team can do that now packers are excluded.
They used to want billionaire single owners, but now teams are so expensive they are allowing groups.

I think a pre requisite is to be filthy rich, and greedy.
 

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Why do you keep asking this question when you already know the answer.

The league needs to make all teams be run like the Green Bay Packers to keep things honest and legitimate for the fans.

The fans own the Packers and the fans want to win super bowls it's a non-profit organization.
Because all posters are dancing around the issue and trying to come up with ways to bash Jerry instead of looking at the bigger picture.

The bigger picture is that numbers and money take over everything at some point and just ruin products and people.

These players, if educated on the topic of league revenue and how it increases the cap and their paychecks, will not bash Jerry. No one benefitting from Jerry is willing to give up a few million for a trophy. They are after money JUST LIKE JERRY.

Ultimately...its a duality(sport and business) that destroys the main character(football).

There is no mechanism in place to prevent money-minded people from buying a team and focusing on money over winning. And...I think that other owners are seeing what Jerry is doing with the 'hanging at the rim' and what it does to their books and the hope it gives the fans....and more will start following. Which is why the QB market is out of hand. QB is the easiest way to 'hang around the rim'.

I guess I am asking because I can see every other teams start to do what Jerry is doing. Not necessarily with having fan tours during practice....but maybe refusing to draft QB's and just stick with average guy because he can get your team 9 wins a year and the team stay relevant.
 

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Because all posters are dancing around the issue and trying to come up with ways to bash Jerry instead of looking at the bigger picture.

The bigger picture is that numbers and money take over everything at some point and just ruin products and people.

These players, if educated on the topic of league revenue and how it increases the cap and their paychecks, will not bash Jerry. No one benefitting from Jerry is willing to give up a few million for a trophy. They are after money JUST LIKE JERRY.

Ultimately...its a duality(sport and business) that destroys the main character(football).

There is no mechanism in place to prevent money-minded people from buying a team and focusing on money over winning. And...I think that other owners are seeing what Jerry is doing with the 'hanging at the rim' and what it does to their books and the hope it gives the fans....and more will start following. Which is why the QB market is out of hand. QB is the easiest way to 'hang around the rim'.

I guess I am asking because I can see every other teams start to do what Jerry is doing. Not necessarily with having fan tours during practice....but maybe refusing to draft QB's and just stick with average guy because he can get your team 9 wins a year and the team stay relevant.
Well if the Packers can do it everybody can do it but I don't see it getting fixed in our lifetime it will just get more corrupt and become a more mediocre product.

There's already too many teams and the talent is diluted the league wanted parody but the pendulum has swung too far.

Glad I got to watch it when the Cowboys were great and so was the game.

Because now both entities are shadow of their former selves
 

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None of that is going to happen.

So...again...Im right back to "How do you prevent this from happening?"

Fans dont like Jerry's ways...but all the Owners like the growing or revenue he is doing for the League and the Players like the larger paychecks.

Jerry is a villain to his own team...but all players across the league and all owners across the league like the revenue he brings. Hard to force someone out that everyone IN THE INDUSTRY benefits from.
I just told you the solution. You didn’t say realistic. That’s how the problem gets solved.
 

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Because all posters are dancing around the issue and trying to come up with ways to bash Jerry instead of looking at the bigger picture.

The bigger picture is that numbers and money take over everything at some point and just ruin products and people.

These players, if educated on the topic of league revenue and how it increases the cap and their paychecks, will not bash Jerry. No one benefitting from Jerry is willing to give up a few million for a trophy. They are after money JUST LIKE JERRY.

Ultimately...its a duality(sport and business) that destroys the main character(football).

There is no mechanism in place to prevent money-minded people from buying a team and focusing on money over winning. And...I think that other owners are seeing what Jerry is doing with the 'hanging at the rim' and what it does to their books and the hope it gives the fans....and more will start following. Which is why the QB market is out of hand. QB is the easiest way to 'hang around the rim'.

I guess I am asking because I can see every other teams start to do what Jerry is doing. Not necessarily with having fan tours during practice....but maybe refusing to draft QB's and just stick with average guy because he can get your team 9 wins a year and the team stay relevant.
So how come other teams owners make money and win?

Kraft won multiple superbowls because him and BB knew football came first. Interesting how much money Kraft has and yet still won. More than Jerry actually.
 

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Because all posters are dancing around the issue and trying to come up with ways to bash Jerry instead of looking at the bigger picture.

The bigger picture is that numbers and money take over everything at some point and just ruin products and people.

These players, if educated on the topic of league revenue and how it increases the cap and their paychecks, will not bash Jerry. No one benefitting from Jerry is willing to give up a few million for a trophy. They are after money JUST LIKE JERRY.

Ultimately...its a duality(sport and business) that destroys the main character(football).

There is no mechanism in place to prevent money-minded people from buying a team and focusing on money over winning. And...I think that other owners are seeing what Jerry is doing with the 'hanging at the rim' and what it does to their books and the hope it gives the fans....and more will start following. Which is why the QB market is out of hand. QB is the easiest way to 'hang around the rim'.

I guess I am asking because I can see every other teams start to do what Jerry is doing. Not necessarily with having fan tours during practice....but maybe refusing to draft QB's and just stick with average guy because he can get your team 9 wins a year and the team stay relevant.
The difference is the other owners aren’t intent on running football operations as GM and face of the franchise.
 

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I just told you the solution. You didn’t say realistic. That’s how the problem gets solved.
An owner doesnt have to do those things you suggested...thats what I am highlighting and asking for solutions to.

Here is a clearer way of asking: In a sports setting, where winning is supposed to take precedence, should the League explore ways to prevent Owners from being 'money first'?

What would be possible solutions to prevent money from ruining the sport for fans?

Right now, assuming its true, Jerry's BALANCE of making money and winning is hanging at the rim and hoping a bunch of things go the Cowboys way to win a SB.

This board does not agree with that BALANCE. Fans want deep playoff runs, Jerry prefers the balance of money making and trying to win...over taking harsher steps, like a hard rebuild or moving off a bus driving QB, to win.

There is a wedge...and nothing stopping the whole league from being watered down due to money.

Fans get the shaft unless the League implements something to keep the sport pure and winning as the focus...and not money.
 

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An owner doesnt have to do those things you suggested...thats what I am highlighting and asking for solutions to.

Here is a clearer way of asking: In a sports setting, where winning is supposed to take precedence, should the League explore ways to prevent Owners from being 'money first'?

What would be possible solutions to prevent money from ruining the sport for fans?

Right now, assuming its true, Jerry's BALANCE of making money and winning is hanging at the rim and hoping a bunch of things go the Cowboys way to win a SB.

This board does not agree with that BALANCE. Fans want deep playoff runs, Jerry prefers the balance of money making and trying to win...over taking harsher steps, like a hard rebuild or moving off a bus driving QB, to win.

There is a wedge...and nothing stopping the whole league from being watered down due to money.

Fans get the shaft unless the League implements something to keep the sport pure and winning as the focus...and not money.
Kraft made oodles of money.

And won championships. Why?

He let his coach do his job.
He let his GM do his.

And he watched games and shut up.

That’s what owners do.
 

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So how come other teams owners make money and win?

Kraft won multiple superbowls because him and BB knew football came first. Interesting how much money Kraft has and yet still won. More than Jerry actually.
Youre gaslighting.

Jerry is here. He doesnt have to do what other Owners do and they dont have to do what he does.

Jerry is here already...trying to balance money and winning and its not working and upsetting fans. Nothing is stopping other Owners from doing what Jerry is doing in the future.

Is there a way to make sure Team Owners are focused on winning football and not so much on winning money?

Jerry obviously wants to squeeze every penny out of this football team ownership venture, even at the expense of winning SB's. What is stopping other owners from following suit? Just because they havent doesnt mean they wont. And frankly, as I already stated, rebuilds are awful to go through. I could easily see other franchise take the 'hanging at the rim' approach if its making them money and they dont have to sit through multiple seasons of 3-14 football.

I mean...look at whats happening in Jacksonville or Carolina 2 weeks ago....the defense stopped playing before half-time. Thats what happens when you have crappy teams in rebuilds...players check out and the whole thing is messy. I dont think anyone likes going through multiple years of that. Note...I am not advocating to not do rebuilds...Im suggesting that I can see how Jerry's approach could seem like the lesser of two evils. 3-14 football is just awful awful awful to sit through.
 

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What is stopping other owners from following Jerry's example.

Maybe they actually have a conscience and care about the game of football to the point where they will make their money but not to the point of ruining the game.
 

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Kraft made oodles of money.

And won championships. Why?

He let his coach do his job.
He let his GM do his.

And he watched games and shut up.

That’s what owners do.
Again...nothing is stopping someone with Jerry's personality(narcissist) and desire to make money over winning from buying a team and turning it into a cash cow that focuses on money over winning.

Jerry might think the fan tours and the merch sales at the Star far outweigh getting rid of those revenue streams and distractions for a trophy.

Youre playing word games and instead of making sense.
 

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What is stopping other owners from following Jerry's example.

Maybe they actually have a conscience and care about the game of football to the point where they will make their money but to the point of ruining the game.
My point in all this is....JERRY IS ALREADY HERE

If Jerry and his personality and his ways are so detrimental to team success and fan excitement...how do you prevent current or future owners from turning into money-first teams?

Its not that hard.
 

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Jerry craves attention. Jerry craves adoration. Jerry wants to be seen as the smartest man in football.

It chaps his *** that most fans of the sport consider those 90s SB teams, Jimmy's teams. It burns him to no end that people don't think he was the genius behind all of that.

Jerry cares about winning ONLY in the sense of how it will make him look. That's. Winning to him isn't about the players or the fans, it's about how it will elevate him in the eyes of the football world. And he's becoming increasingly stubborn, combative, etc. It's because he knows he's running out of time and instead of being praised for how awesome he is, he finds himself facing more and more criticism and scrutiny about his mismanagement of the club, not only from fans but also now from local and national media.

He will never win another SB. He's simply incapable mentally and emotionally to do what's right. Because every decision is clouded by the belief that Jerry has to do it his way and only his way because then, and only then, he'll get the credit he believes he deserves.

Maybe Stephen will be better at this. Maybe Stephen will see the weaknesses of their current model. Maybe once his dad has moved on, Stephen will no longer have to make decisions based on what he thinks his dad will do. I doubt it but at this point, it's our only hope.
 

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My point in all this is....JERRY IS ALREADY HERE

If Jerry and his personality and his ways are so detrimental to team success and fan excitement...how do you prevent current or future owners from turning into money-first teams?

Its not that hard.
Absolutely right it's not that hard and I already told you the league has to legislate that the teams be owned by the fans.

Like the Green Bay Packers owned by the fans run by a board of directors.
So no one person can corrupt the system.
Go back to post 62 if you feel the need to read it again but for heaven's sake stop asking the question
 
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