Jerry on Garrett: Not Impressed

[Wayne02]

Not true. It was 2nd and 1. They stop the clock on 2nd and third down and have 1:10 at least to go. You had to get a 1st down! so I tell McFadden to get the first down at all cost - if one of those cost is you score a TD then so be it!

It is true, McFadden gets the first down at 1:10 and the Skins would be forced to use a timeout. You run again or take a knee on 2nd down and the Skins would be forced to use their last timeout with about 1:00 left. You take a knee on 3rd down, and run the clock all the way down with abut 20 seconds or so left on the clock and call a timeout. You then kick the FG, leaving the Skins with about 17 seconds left with no TO's. Game is essentially over.

You don't allow them to get the ball back with over a minute left with 2 TO's with a guy like Jackson waiting to make a big play.

 

[Daillest88]

Wasn't that the same offense that got blown out by Washington and is currently 4-8 just like the Cowboys, even with their franchise QB all year??

Have you see the saints defense?? It's worse than our 2013 defense

 

[aikemirv]

You can fault DMAC for that mistake, but after that mistake, a real HC would have made sure we take as much time off as possible before trying to score. And that includes telling the offense not to score until some time is taken off.

I have doubts JG knew that the best strategy for a win was to take as much time off as possible and then just kick the FG. In his mind, he probably thought we needed to score a TD.

The only way to take time off is to get a 1st down. How do you get a 1st down from the 4 without the possibility of scoring. " Guys, block enough to get 2 yards not 4 OK".

 

[movaughn88]

Not true. It was 2nd and 1. They stop the clock on 2nd and third down and have 1:10 at least to go. You had to get a 1st down! so I tell McFadden to get the first down at all cost - if one of those cost is you score a TD then so be it!

I don't believe it's as cut and dry as some are trying to make it. Yes, McFadden shouldn't have gone out of bounds on 1st. That would have blown one of their timeouts. But I think he truly thought he was getting a 1st down.

After that is done (his decision, not any coach), then with 2 timeouts, we run twice and there's 1:10 left. They blow the whistle and you kick the FG with some seconds left, they have 30 seconds left approximately. Well.....the Skins scored a TD in exactly 30 seconds on the next drive, so if that exact scenario had played out we would have lost.

McFads eliminated our ability to run it to less than 10 seconds. It was not smart, but I do believe he thought he was getting a first down in exchange for going OB.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

Where is this image from lol

Only the greatest movie ever.......Dumb and Dumber

 

[PAINFROMUKRAINE]

Jerry must have attended an AA Meeting last week and did not touch any Johnny Walker during the game. The reality of watching a game sober may have finally cleared his mind into thinking correctly. Jerry - Please stay sober for the last 4 games and if you pull the plug on JG's HC Career, I will send you a nice bottle of Johnny Walker to celebrate a New ERA.

 

[AbeBeta]

You are taught day one of training camp to stay inbounds
No excuse for dmac running out of bounds
But those who wanted to not score the td need to remember the Seattle game we lost on a very short FG
You take the td and rely on your defense who had kept them out of the end zone for nearly 59 minutes

Absolutely. For a team that has trouble scoring at all, you take the TD if you can get it.

 

[mrmojo]

Didn't the Giants RB in the SB do that, fall down before scoring, against the Patriots a few years back?

 

[Hailmary]

Where is this image from lol

If you've never seen Dumb & Dumber, I urge you to find a copy right away. Don't bother with Dumb and Dumberer or Dumb and Dumber Too, stick with the original.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

was just reading an article ...




The loss dropped the Sixers to 1-21 this season, and was a fitting microcosm of how the past two-plus seasons have gone in Philadelphia. Ever since the Sixers hired Sam Hinkie to be their general manager in May 2013, the phrase “Trust the Process” has become as pervasive in basketball circles as Philadelphia’s losses over the past two-plus seasons. Monday afternoon, however, the trust in that process from Hinkie’s employers appeared to evaporate with the hiring of Jerry Colangelo as both a special advisor to owner Josh Harris and, most importantly, the chairman of basketball operations.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

It is true, McFadden gets the first down at 1:10 and the Skins would be forced to use a timeout. You run again or take a knee on 2nd down and the Skins would be forced to use their last timeout with about 1:00 left. You take a knee on 3rd down, and run the clock all the way down with abut 20 seconds or so left on the clock and call a timeout. You then kick the FG, leaving the Skins with about 17 seconds left with no TO's. Game is essentially over.

You don't allow them to get the ball back with over a minute left with 2 TO's with a guy like Jackson waiting to make a big play.

You are just operating off of hindsight. You can't coach assuming that there will be a boneheaded face mask on the return, which was far more damaging to the cause than anything Jackson did.

When McFadden scored, there was a 95% win probability at that point:

http://live.numberfire.com/nfl/6313?play=177

If you can kick the field goal with no time left then it is the correct choice. But when you factor in the probability of something going wrong with the field goal along with leaving yourself vulnerable to losing the game outright on a kick return, the odds are not appreciably different then scoring the TD.

There was nothing tactically wrong with scoring the TD. Even if it wasn't the correct move, it was not a grievous error at 95%.

 

[AbeBeta]

You can fault DMAC for that mistake, but after that mistake, a real HC would have made sure we take as much time off as possible before trying to score. And that includes telling the offense not to score until some time is taken off.

I have doubts JG knew that the best strategy for a win was to take as much time off as possible and then just kick the FG. In his mind, he probably thought we needed to score a TD.

Dude. We haven't scored an offensive touchdown with Cassell on the field since Week 9. In his mind, he knows that field goals haven't gotten it done.

 

[Wayne02]

You are just operating off of hindsight. You can't coach assuming that there will be a boneheaded face mask on the return, which was far more damaging to the cause than anything Jackson did.

When McFadden scored, there was a 95% win probability at that point:

http://live.numberfire.com/nfl/6313?play=177

If you can kick the field goal with no time left then it is the correct choice. But when you factor in the probability of something going wrong with the field goal along with leaving yourself vulnerable to losing the game outright on a kick return, the odds are not appreciably different then scoring the TD.

There was nothing tactically wrong with scoring the TD. Even if it wasn't the correct move, it was not a grievous error at 95%.

I would rather be up 3 with the other team having 17 seconds left on the clock with no TO's than being up 7 with the other team having over a minute left with 2 TO's with dangerous receivers like Jackson and Garcon. If not for Lucky Whitehead, they blow that game because of that blunder.

And I'm not using hindsight, I was screaming at the TV because they gave the Commanders hope by scoring that TD. As soon as I saw Jackson nod his head on the sideline, I had a bad feeling that he was going to make up for that bonehead kickoff return and fumble that he did.

 

[Staubacher]

The only way to take time off is to get a 1st down. How do you get a 1st down from the 4 without the possibility of scoring. " Guys, block enough to get 2 yards not 4 OK".

It's easy - you make dang sure McFadden knows to fall down after he gets the first. You also make dang sure he stays inbounds the play before. The Broncos had the same exact situation in that 51-48 win over us 2 years ago. They used a timeout and Peyton Manning to instruct the team to NOT score.

Garrett had 2 timeouts at his disposal. Use one or both after each play and clock wind down to emphasize what is needed. There is NO way Washington should have got that ball back with anything more than 10 seconds on the clock down 3.

It's football 101. Garrett is always invisible at times like that as if he has no clue. It happens 2-4 games per season and that's enough to kill us.

My God he has been around NFL football his whole life and he doesn't get it.

 

[Sportsbabe]

I caught some of that on NFL Network last night. He seemed real pissed about the time management. Actually, he was unusually lucid for a Jerry interview.

When it fits the agenda.

 

[Miller]

couple of quick points here:

1. Wonder what Jerry's reaction would've been had we lost last night?

2. As for getting the ball to Dez, I was wondering that the whole first 3 quarters. its unbelievable how they dont target Dez enough. Just some simple quick outs and let him break a tackle or something. its not rocket science.

Even with a bad foot Dez can out athlete most people. Just throwing it down the sidelines would. Strangely they did it for TWill many times in the 1st half but not Dez

 

[Super_Kazuya]

I would rather be up 3 with the other team having 17 seconds left on the clock with no TO's than being up 7 with the other team having over a minute left with 2 TO's with dangerous receivers like Jackson and Garcon. If not for Lucky Whitehead, they blow that game because of that blunder.

It wasn't a blunder. And they won, by the way. You don't get to play it both ways. Stop crying.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

This the one time I want jerry to speak. Thank god he see's that Garrett and Scotty's game management has been horrible.

thank god people like you don't call the shots.

the run play on both downs was a solid all. Garret can't force a back to stay in bounds. questioning those play calls says more about you then it does the coach!

 

[LocimusPrime]

Without a doubt. Just happy that he actually isn't just going with the flow and happy with 4-8. Glad he realizes that you should be "coached" to win a few more games. Honestly I can see a scenario where he moves Garrett in house with player personnel and hires another coach down the road.

I dont want him in player personnel either. Heck street and wilcox should be off the team.

 

[Staubacher]

You can fault DMAC for that mistake, but after that mistake, a real HC would have made sure we take as much time off as possible before trying to score. And that includes telling the offense not to score until some time is taken off.

I have doubts JG knew that the best strategy for a win was to take as much time off as possible and then just kick the FG. In his mind, he probably thought we needed to score a TD.

We've seen Garrett for 5 years make the same basic clock mgmt mistakes at end of games and halves. He gets no benefit of the doubt. He didn't even act surprised or mad when DMac went out of bounds the first time or scored needlessly.

As usual he dodges the bullet though.