Jerry on Gregory "We're doing everything we can to get him back on the field."

[Trouty]

No Brett Farve had an issue with pain medication and checked into rehab realizing he had a problem and was in the NFL substance abuse program. Players can get addicted but this BS of every player in the NFL is some drug addict, give me a break whoever is feeding you that BS is crazy.

It's a hot topic right now. The NFL's opioid endemic vs. weed.

As for Favre -- Favre just had the wherewithal to not hide it as it was destroying his marriage and the small town of GB has an amplified spotlight.

 

[waldoputty]

Why would the Bengals be against it? The Bengals are economically conservative no question but they routinely draft and sign problem children.

Old Rooney is dead for the Steelers. That his younger family is taking over bodes well.

Snyder strikes me as more of a libertarian as opposed to the Kraft's and Mara's.

as stated, i was guessing by how long they have owned the club (age and the old ways), who is in nfc east (against the cowboys) etc.

but this is from an article: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ers-execs-eyeing-marijuana-discipline-changes

Based on conversations with 10 NFL team owners and executives over the past few months, marijuana usage could emerge as a key issue when the collective bargaining agreement is renegotiated over the next few years. The team sources spoke on the condition of anonymity in order to talk candidly about the subject.

Each of the owners support additional study and discussion regarding what the league's stance should be on medical and recreational pot use for players. The majority of the sample size supports a "decriminalization" of marijuana that would make it more difficult for players to be suspended. Two of the principals involved in the issue said they are open to getting rid of marijuana-related suspensions and only issuing fines. Two others said they are worried about sending the message that drug use is tolerated and believe suspensions must remain.

Although there is a consensus to being open to change, there's no unanimity on what should be done.

Easing marijuana restrictions would be a continuation of changes made in the last drug policy negotiation in 2014. In addition to the implementation of human growth hormone testing and mandatory discipline for DUIs, the suspension threshold for a positive marijuana test was raised. Players could test positive for pot four times without being suspended by the NFL.

Most of the executives who spoke about the issue supported lowering the standards tied to marijuana-related suspensions. A few mentioned conversations with other owners that signaled much more support for vetting the issues and lowering restrictions. One said there is a "groundswell" of support among owners to ease suspensions for marijuana-related infractions.

 

[Vintage]

Jerry, if there was ever a time to swing your big stick and force this... Now is the time. Go get your war daddy back. Take the owners out back to the ********** and show them the way.

 

[waldoputty]

A nice negotiation starter:

Look Roger, when we agreed to the testing, it was as a means for helping the players. While everyone has the best intentions at heart, this has gotten far beyond the original intent. Players fear for their livelihood and some have been stripped of their livelihood. This is not going to work. I would not know what to do if most of the players decide to show their solidarity with the affected players by failing the tests together. I dont think we want to go there. I think we need to amend this now so that the policy goes back to the original intent of helping the players.

 

[Tristan]

On the west coast here weed is perfectly legal, the sky isnt falling and everybody realizes they were idiots for criminilizing it as opposed to regulating it and taxing it.

The whole country of canada just legalized it, why are great athletes gonna continue to have these idiots tell them what they can do in theyre hard earned free time?

Especially now that everybody willing to educate them self realize that it is a non toxic and safe therapuetic substance, in a world where water, air, medicines and food are often toxic and not safe.

Theres simply no way the nfl can keep this bs up! Here in CA/OR/WA/NV/CO any adult, teacher, politician, restaurant mgr., mechanic etc. can all get off a hard days work and buy and smoke a nice joint and relax if they want. Oh but a superstar RB for the Seahawks or Raiders is gonna be told "no soup for you!" Yeah right!!!!

It will create a huge unfair advantage for the teams in these states as they at least know theyre not gonna be handcuffed and ridiculed by some loser hypocrite **** like the ones in TX or FL (personal feelings and experience lol) for smoking a joint on the way to the gym.

Its one thing to lose all these stars we love to watch from knees n backs, worrying about this bs in this new world is the last thing the nfl needs.

Just get over it already and leave these adults alone unless youre testing for "performance enhancing" drugs like steroids then its bs! You shouldn't have to take deadly stuff to keep up with youre cheating peers IMO!

 

[Aven8]

Who the hell is Randy Gregory???

 

[ALBIT]

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

 

[zrinkill]

Go get your war daddy back.

14 games played ......... 1 sack - 15 tackles - 5 assisted tackles

War daddy?

 

[Carson]

14 games played ......... 1 sack - 15 tackles - 5 assisted tackles

War daddy?

Exactly. Barely played in a few years. We're better off signing Daryl Washington. At least he was once all pro

 

[Shake_Tiller]

It's pretty obvious the NFL will, at some point, stop testing for pot. The owners don't want to give up a good bargaining chip for the next collective bargaining round, so they are hesitant to drop the testing prior to those talks. And Goodell is opposed to dropping it for the same reason. I am about as anti-Goodell as it gets, but I understand his position. Commissioners tend to be judged by their owners, in large part, based on the quality of the collective bargaining agreement negotiated on their watch.

The NFLPA wants the testing ended but hasn't been willing, to this point, to unilaterally surrender anything substantive in exchange. Just like the owners, they want every bargaining chip available. Business decision.

Jerry Jones is swimming upstream and must convince enough owners, or the NFLPA, to give up the bargaining chip. His best hope is probably to use the capital he has gained with the owners by being a leading driver of increased revenue. He has helped to make them much richer. But that capital only goes so far. We shall see.

As to Gregory, it does seem as if he has mental health issues. I don't know that he does, but it seems that way. I certainly think -- and I said think -- he has severe anxiety issues. The catch 22 for people with such issues is that the inability to stop a behavior is part of the illness. It is often a struggle to get mentally ill people to take their medication. When they feel good (because of the medication) they reason that they don't need the pill (because they feel good). So they miss doses and once again begin to have symptoms. It is a vicious circle.

It seems to me this is similar to the behavior being exhibited by Gregory. He smokes pot because he feels better when he smokes it. When he stops smoking, his symptoms become intolerable and he smokes again. Now this is not to say that I "know" this to be the case. It's just my opinion, and an uninformed one at that. But his behavior leads me to my opinion. His symptoms are such that they inhibit his ability to make a rational decision.

I see no reason for the Cowboys to cut ties with Gregory. I see no down side to maintaining his rights. It seems Jones understands that Gregory probably can't and won't stop smoking. So the best chance to get him on the field is to have punitive measures removed. And I doubt is thinking only of Gregory. I imagine he feels that the punitive measures are unhelpful and even harmful to a subset of players. Whatever else one can say about Jones, he does seem to have a heart for people with demons. I happen to think that is one of his more positive qualities.

I also understand fans' frustration and the desire to move on. Dealing with a person upon whom you can't depend is about as frustrating as it gets. And even if it isn't Gregory's fault, he hasn't been dependable. It's perfectly natural that a significant number of people want to cut ties.

I do not understand the animosity toward Gregory. Then again, I don't understand animosity toward anyone who has a problem that is harmful mainly to them. I get frustration. I don't get animosity. I am a middle-aged man who dips snuff and eats far more than I should. My house is made of glass.

 

[waldoputty]

Exactly. Barely played in a few years. We're better off signing Daryl Washington. At least he was once all pro

keeping gregory does not cost anything.
it does not take up a roster space or use any cap space.
there is nothing to gain except to those who cannot handle any amount of uncertainty in their life.

 

[Doomsday101]

keeping gregory does not cost anything.
it does not take up a roster space or use any cap space.
there is nothing to gain except to those who cannot handle any amount of uncertainty in their life.

That is true which is why it makes me no difference what Dallas does, but after now 6 confirmed failed test that will keep him out until Dec and with yet another failed test (7th) looming his chances of ever playing looks to be slim to none.

 

[Hawkeye19]

no it is you that is stupid for wanting to throw out an asset.
if nfl changes it rules, the asset becomes a war daddy.
most of us dont care about these rules that belong in the last century.

That "asset" has cost us a 2nd round pick (we could actually have a contributing member of our team right now)-- and now a 1st rounder in Taco just to cover a hole in our roster at DE.

AT BEST-- you can call him a potential asset. 100% the guy is a liability right now. He may turn the corner one day-- but that is far from guaranteed.

 

[waldoputty]

That "asset" has cost us a 2nd round pick (we could actually have a contributing member of our team right now)-- and now a 1st rounder in Taco just to cover a hole in our roster at DE.

AT BEST-- you can call him a potential asset. 100% the guy is a liability right now. He may turn the corner one day-- but that is far from guaranteed.

he is a depreciating asset.
he is not costing anything of consequence.
2nd round LBs pick have a 55% chance of becoming a starter.
there is uncertainty in life.
most need to learn to deal with it.

 

[Doomsday101]

On the west coast here weed is perfectly legal, the sky isnt falling and everybody realizes they were idiots for criminilizing it as opposed to regulating it and taxing it.

The whole country of canada just legalized it, why are great athletes gonna continue to have these idiots tell them what they can do in theyre hard earned free time?

Especially now that everybody willing to educate them self realize that it is a non toxic and safe therapuetic substance, in a world where water, air, medicines and food are often toxic and not safe.

Theres simply no way the nfl can keep this bs up! Here in CA/OR/WA/NV/CO any adult, teacher, politician, restaurant mgr., mechanic etc. can all get off a hard days work and buy and smoke a nice joint and relax if they want. Oh but a superstar RB for the Seahawks or Raiders is gonna be told "no soup for you!" Yeah right!!!!

It will create a huge unfair advantage for the teams in these states as they at least know theyre not gonna be handcuffed and ridiculed by some loser hypocrite **** like the ones in TX or FL (personal feelings and experience lol) for smoking a joint on the way to the gym.

Its one thing to lose all these stars we love to watch from knees n backs, worrying about this bs in this new world is the last thing the nfl needs.

Just get over it already and leave these adults alone unless youre testing for "performance enhancing" drugs like steroids then its bs! You shouldn't have to take deadly stuff to keep up with youre cheating peers IMO!

Courts have ruled even in states with legalized marijuana that employers can still test and fire workers who test positive

Colorado Supreme Court Upholds Employers’ Rights
The Colorado Supreme Court agreed, ruling that marijuana use is not lawful conduct for purposes of Colorado’s lawful off-duty conduct statute. To reach this conclusion, the court concluded that it must look to both state and federal law to make the critical determination. The court then reviewed the federal Controlled Substances Act, and held that because medical marijuana use is unlawful under federal law, it is therefore not lawful activity under Colorado’s lawful off-duty conduct statute. As such, the court ruled that Dish Network’s decision to fire the employee because he tested positive for marijuana did not violate Colorado’s lawful off-duty conduct statute.

https://search.yahoo.com/search?p=b...juana&fr=yset_ie_syc_oracle&type=orcl_default

 

[waldoputty]

That "asset" has cost us a 2nd round pick (we could actually have a contributing member of our team right now)-- and now a 1st rounder in Taco just to cover a hole in our roster at DE.

AT BEST-- you can call him a potential asset. 100% the guy is a liability right now. He may turn the corner one day-- but that is far from guaranteed.

let me rephrase it for you:
you prefer 100% certainty of getting nothing for the spent 2nd round pick instead of keeping an unknown % chance of getting something from the pick.
that is what you are advocating.

 

[Doomsday101]

let me rephrase it for you:
you prefer 100% certainty of getting nothing for the spent 2nd round pick instead of keeping an unknown % chance of getting something from the pick.
that is what you are advocating.

Myself I prefer we quit getting idiots. There was a reason he slid out of the 1st, there was a reason many GM stated they would not touch him.
Cowboys knew they had a player with some issues a kid who knew he would be tested heading into the combines yet still managed to fail it.
Stop using high picks on knuckle heads, may be a good ideal. But hey just my opinion. lol

 

[DenCWBY]

Jerry fault and strength is his loyalty to players. Others on the team see the lengths that Jerry goes to even on a lost soul like Gregory, players know Jerry has their back

They also realize they are given more latitude to screw up with the cowboys (which is not always a good message to your new players) considering 3 strike rule with the league and Jerry's leniency.

 

[Tristan]

Mos

Courts have ruled even in states with legalized marijuana that employers can still test and fire workers who test positive

Colorado Supreme Court Upholds Employers’ Rights
The Colorado Supreme Court agreed, ruling that marijuana use is not lawful conduct for purposes of Colorado’s lawful off-duty conduct statute. To reach this conclusion, the court concluded that it must look to both state and federal law to make the critical determination. The court then reviewed the federal Controlled Substances Act, and held that because medical marijuana use is unlawful under federal law, it is therefore not lawful activity under Colorado’s lawful off-duty conduct statute. As such, the court ruled that Dish Network’s decision to fire the employee because he tested positive for marijuana did not violate Colorado’s lawful off-duty conduct statute.

https://search.yahoo.com/search?p=b...juana&fr=yset_ie_syc_oracle&type=orcl_default

Most people who chose to smoke weed are smart enough to work where they dont test. Most places dont overall. So if u cant get in any other trouble otherwise, and dont have to accept any stink eye judgment from anyone otherwise, then youd have to be an idiot to out yourself in a position where u have to worry about being in trouble with some idiot boss or company.

I certainly dont have anyone who can give me an inch of crap for smoking and as a successfull adult I wouldnt take it, from anyone!

"For those who think life isnt fair, cause I blow my smoke in the air, Il roll a fat one for your sorrows"

 

[Doomsday101]

They also realize they are given more latitude to screw up with the cowboys (which is not always a good message to your new players) considering 3 strike rule with the league and Jerry's leniency.

As I said I consider it a strength at times and a weakness at others. Jerry did not give up on Irvin he could have on the other hand he has cut loose others like Ratliff and McClain. I think Jerry will give loyalty and also expects a measure of loyalty