Jerry on how Eagles construct their roster vs how the Cowboys do

[Whirlwin]

no one said he doesn't want to win. but winning is not his top priority. if it was, then you make every move and do everything to win. the fact he doesn't shows he doesn't have it as his top priority. his top priority is for cowboys to maximize profits (yes, he is a billionaire and he still cares a lot about business succees, that's his game), for the cowboys to remain relevant in media and to increase Cowboys market value. winning is secondary.

There’s a lot of people here and I mean a lot that say Jerry is not interested in winning

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

There’s a lot of people here and I mean a lot that say Jerry is not interested in winning

I think they mistake priority with wanting something. perhaps

 

[75boyz]

To add, their horrific player evaluation keeps them from succeding FA.

THIS.
It could be said it's the foundation of most of this team's problems.

 

[FVSTONE]

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones on @1053thefan when asked about the Eagles' roster construction vs. the Cowboys' roster construction:

"They're at a time where they're paying their quarterback now. They've really spent some money to put this team together, and they've spent some cap. This is a good time for them to hit it because they have a lot invested in this team.

"I for sure make comparisons with the cap status (of other teams) around the league with where they've got room to grow the cap. ... I do that all the time. I observe every club very carefully. I obviously look that over and apply it to us and where we spend our money.

"That's why we (signed Dak Prescott and CeeDee Lamb) this year. We knew they were cornerstones of now and in the future."

Prescott is considered a CORNERSTONE on this team???????????? If anything, he should be considered the biggest liability on this team, not a CORNERSTONE!!!!!!!!!!!!! At the rate he was playing this season before he got hurt, it was very apparent that this team's record would have been a lot worse than it is right now. Prescott struggled out of the gate and produced very little when the team needed him the most. His passes to his receivers and TEs were flat out horrible, very few if any were on target, forcing receivers and TEs to make non-stop circus catches, in which led to CeeDee hurting his shoulder. And you could count on one hand the number of passes that were in the air more than twenty yards. Our GM/Owner make a huge error in making Prescott the highest paid QB in the league. Jerry Jones turned his Cowboys into the Cleveland Browns of the Eastern Div.................

 

[Cowfan75Lives]

I think that was before the injury

I'm sure he still believes it. He believed it after the first injury.

 

[kskboys]

There’s a lot of people here and I mean a lot that say Jerry is not interested in winning

Let's see, Jerry knows what it takes to win but refuses to do it. How do you interpret that?

 

[kskboys]

I think they mistake priority with wanting something. perhaps

Sure, but the lower down on the priority list it is, the less it is wanted.

 

[Flamma]

Sure, but the lower down on the priority list it is, the less it is wanted.

I guess you could look at it that way. I don't work OT, and sometimes turn down higher paying jobs. Does that mean I like money any less? No, I love money. Just not my top priority.

I'm sure the Jones boys would be thrilled if the Cowboys won a SB. There is just a limit to how far they'll go to get it. It's not their top priority.

 

[kskboys]

I guess you could look at it that way. I don't work OT, and sometimes turn down higher paying jobs. Does that mean I like money any less? No, I love money. Just not my top priority.

I'm sure the Jones boys would be thrilled if the Cowboys won a SB. There is just a limit to how far they'll go to get it. It's not their top priority.

I'm the opposite. I don't see how it can be looked at any other way. Jerry consistently takes actions/nonactions that are counter to winning super bowls. And knows it and doesn't care. Just how much does he want to win one?

 

[atlantacowboy]

I'm the opposite. I don't see how it can be looked at any other way. Jerry consistently takes actions/nonactions that are counter to winning super bowls. And knows it and doesn't care. Just how much does he want to win one?

He doesn't want the Cowboys to win a Super Bowl without him being the reason. He doesn't see himself as an impediment and that's the problem. He has never understood how to maximize the cap to his advantage. And even if he did, he wouldn't know who to sign bc he has no vision of what building a winner looks like. He thinks it's about stringing together pro bowl caliber players on the roster, but it's so much more than that. A Super Bowl team is always more than the sum of its parts.

 

[Big_D]

I guess you could look at it that way. I don't work OT, and sometimes turn down higher paying jobs. Does that mean I like money any less? No, I love money. Just not my top priority.

I'm sure the Jones boys would be thrilled if the Cowboys won a SB. There is just a limit to how far they'll go to get it. It's not their top priority.

Every team in every sport at every level, winning is the priority, the race for a championship is the top goal. Very strange that in Dallas it isn't. Talking about "how bad" Jerry wants to win has become comical at this point since they have no shot whatsoever with him and his kid and they simply don't care about that part.

 

[baltcowboy]

You guys still think Dak is the Cowboys quarterback because of his play. Dak is the Cowboys quarterback because he checks the boxes. Wentz had great talent but had a 10 cent head and was not a leader. He would have washed out here and not received the third contract. Dak has respect of the locker room and community. The guy is a CEO. Cowturd is right about his play. Dak is a B+ quarterback but you add that with his A+ leadership and respect Jerry couldn’t have found a better face of the franchise. There is no way a Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts, and Baker Mayfield could be quarterbacks of America’s team. The scrutiny you get is overwhelming.

 

[Old'Boyfan]

Yeah, but you understand why we’re not winning the championship games. Or do you just say oh we’re not winning we suck it’s Jerry’s fault. Do you give him credit for the three rings he got or is that just all on J

Yeah, but you understand why we’re not winning the championship games. Or do you just say oh we’re not winning we suck it’s Jerry’s fault. Do you give him credit for the three rings he got or is that just all on Jimmy?

Weak sauce.

 

[atlantacowboy]

You guys still think Dak is the Cowboys quarterback because of his play. Dak is the Cowboys quarterback because he checks the boxes. Wentz had great talent but had a 10 cent head and was not a leader. He would have washed out here and not received the third contract. Dak has respect of the locker room and community. The guy is a CEO. Cowturd is right about his play. Dak is a B+ quarterback but you add that with his A+ leadership and respect Jerry couldn’t have found a better face of the franchise. There is no way a Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts, and Baker Mayfield could be quarterbacks of America’s team. The scrutiny you get is overwhelming.

Dak is the Cowboys QB b/c Jerry Jones is scared to death of a rebuild. He would rather us "look" good for 4 months and quickly lose a playoff game than rebuild. he's an 82 year old man. He doesn't have time to roll the dice and rebuild.

Who cares if Dak is a choir boy off the field if he can't get his head right in the big games......on his home field no less. He's the QB of the Dallas Cowboys and winning playoff games comes with the territory. If he can't handle that, maybe he should have asked for less money so the team can surround him with more playmakers?

 

[Whirlwin]

Weak sauce.

I have no idea what that means

 

[Flamma]

Every team in every sport at every level, winning is the priority, the race for a championship is the top goal. Very strange that in Dallas it isn't. Talking about "how bad" Jerry wants to win has become comical at this point since they have no shot whatsoever with him and his kid and they simply don't care about that part.

Not at the pro level. There are plenty of examples of owners simply treating the franchise as a money making business. Couldn't care less about winning. We see this in MLB. Also in the NBA.

 

[Flamma]

He doesn't want the Cowboys to win a Super Bowl without him being the reason. He doesn't see himself as an impediment and that's the problem. He has never understood how to maximize the cap to his advantage. And even if he did, he wouldn't know who to sign bc he has no vision of what building a winner looks like. He thinks it's about stringing together pro bowl caliber players on the roster, but it's so much more than that. A Super Bowl team is always more than the sum of its parts.

Fully agree. What changed in the dude? He used to be the guy that went out and did everything he could to put the best team on the field. He used to be the George Steinbrenner of the NFL, only dumber. He's since receded like a vampire from the cross. What brought this on? It's been over a decade since the change.

 

[Big_D]

Not at the pro level. There are plenty of examples of owners simply treating the franchise as a money making business. Couldn't care less about winning. We see this in MLB. Also in the NBA.

But only one does what the cowboys are doing. The rest will go out and get gms and allow their HC to pick a staff. And they will make FO changes when things are going south. This team does none of that while letting it carry on for decades!

 

[kskboys]

Fully agree. What changed in the dude? He used to be the guy that went out and did everything he could to put the best team on the field. He used to be the George Steinbrenner of the NFL, only dumber. He's since receded like a vampire from the cross. What brought this on? It's been over a decade since the change.

Confusion. Jerry tried strategy after strategy, and the only one that worked was hiring Tuna. So now he is simply confused, has no idea what to do. So he just maintains status quo.

 

[Creeper]

I took a look at the Eagles contracts at OvertheCap.com and I find it really interesting what they have done.

The Eagles have put over $418 million in various bonus money in voided years from 2025 to 2030. Jalen Hurts for example has $97.5 million in pro-rated option bonuses hitting the CAP in 2029-2032, all of which hits the CAP in 2029 if he is not on the roster. They can spread this out over two years if he is a June 1 cut.

I found they have done this with 16 players, and I assume they will do it with more as they re-sign players coming off their rookie deals and for free agents they sign.

They have $31.96 million hitting in 2025. Most of that is Josh Sweat and Brandon Graham.

They have another $69.7 million that hits in 2026. That's for Goedert, Slay and Bradberry.

$86.76 million in s 2027 from Lane Johnson, Saquon Barkley, CJ Gardner-Johnson and Bryce Huff.

And an unbelievable $176.90 million in 2029. This is from Hurts, DeVonta Smith and Landon Dickerson mostly.

All of the $418 million is from option bonuses, with the exception of Josh Sweat's $16.38 million which is a prorated signing bonus.

This assumes the Eagles keep all these players and pay out all of the option bonuses. I am not certain but depending on the contract terms, they could cut or trade any of these players and avoid the option bonuses thus reducing the CAP hit in the future. For example, Jalen Hurts is due an option bonus in 2028. If the Eagles release cut him, they would not have to pay the roster bonus and it would be removed from the proration in future years. It is a little bit surprising the players agreed to these deals knowing the Eagles might not be forced to pay them. But it appears the Eagles have made good use of the option bonus to protect themselves in case a player does not play at the same high level in the future.

I have to believe the Eagles plan on releasing at least some of these players before their future CAP hits are too Take AJ Brown. He is due an option bonus of $21 million in 2028 and another option bonus of $21 million in 2029. If they release him after the 2027 season, they would eliminate $42 million in prorated bonuses, about $30 million of which runs into voidable years. My math may not be exact but it should be close enough to give the idea.

Brown will be 31 in 2028 so this could be what the Eagles are thinking. I am pretty sure they are other players that fall into the same category. I don't know how this will all work out in the future, but they will look brilliant if it all works out.