Jerry was Just on With Norm

[theebs]

It'd be nice if everyone that had such a big problem with Jerry would just leave. He's not going anywhere and the constant complaining is just annoying. It's his team, his players, his stadium.

People blame Jerry because they don't know what else is wrong and just point at "the top" grasping for straws.

Jerry brings in talent and he brings in, what everyone thought at the time, were brilliant offensive and defensive coaches. That's all a GM can do.

whatever.

you just gave absolutely the abs olute worst reasons for him to stay in control.

 

[theogt]

whatever.

you just gave absolutely the abs olute worst reasons for him to stay in control.

Yes, bringing in talent and bringing in "brilliant" coaches is the worst reason for him to stay. Just because a decision doesn't work out how you think it should doesn't mean it was a bad decision at the time. Hindsight is 20-20.

 

[Everlastingxxx]

I would be ok with a team with less talent, but the focus being on the team and team players. TO and all the stars is an easy sell for Jerry. Big names is what he thinks sells. And sadly, it does.

 

[theebs]

Yes, bringing in talent and bringing in "brilliant" coaches is the worst reason for him to stay.

another excellent defense.

Maybe I should leave, I clearly dont know football like you do.

 

[diehard2294]

Bingo!!! Our big money players are damn good, they just need a HC with some discipline to infuse some fear into them. The old fashion way is the way to go. I just don't believe WP can change and get the job done. JJ has brought the talent here, just look at how good our rookie class did this year. Discipline, accountability, respect, a lil fear, and hard work is what this team needs...

when you say infuse fear,what would be the consequences,cant cut them,bench them Jerry dont have the nads to.

 

[theogt]

another excellent defense.

Maybe I should leave, I clearly dont know football like you do.

Don't be stupid. They were two different statements. I said I wish people would leave, because Jerry's not. And the constant whining is childish and annoying. I didn't say I wish people would leave because they don't know football.

 

[Alexander]

It'd be nice if everyone that had such a big problem with Jerry would just leave. He's not going anywhere and the constant complaining is just annoying. It's his team, his players, his stadium.

You would be fine just allowing him to become Al Davis Lite then and just shut up because its his team, his players and his stadium?

People blame Jerry because they don't know what else is wrong and just point at "the top" grasping for straws.

I know what is wrong with this team. Everyone can see it. Can Jerry?

Jerry brings in talent and he brings in, what everyone thought at the time, brilliant offensive and defensive coaches. That's all a GM can do.

That's what a poor GM does. You cannot just disregard chemistry and try and field a team of all-stars with a pushover head coach and weak staff of enablers. The problem right now is that he doesn't have a clue how a team works. For someone who has trophies in his case, he sure forgot quickly what put them there. We won those trophies because the players were not only talented, they were together and they had a coach who kept the machine running. The gears started spinning off as soon as Jimmy Johnson left.

 

[tyke1doe]

How is that news? Anyone with a half functional brain knows that there was no way any big contract guys were getting cut because of the cap.

Only complete idiots actually thought there was a shot that Jerry was going to wreck the cap by cutting guys with big contracts just to appease people.

I wouldn't call them idiots. Very few, outside of AdamJT13, understand salary cap implications.

For me, the issue really isn't cutting T.O. Yes, I would want him gone. But you can sit his behind down on the bench. You can tell him "We're not going to have anymore of this 'I' talk." And if there's a focus on anything other than team, you're hitting the bench."

Look what Mike Singletary did with Vernon Davis.

But nobody has the courage to do that around Valley Ranch. And we know that Jerry Jones won't back it because if someone did, you'd have T.O. in Jerry's ear just like Deion was in Jerry's ear when he didn't like something being done inside the Cowboys lockerroom.

This franchise is screwed.

I hope I'm wrong. But I doubt it.

 

[isawoj]

How is that news? Anyone with a half functional brain knows that there was no way any big contract guys were getting cut because of the cap.

Only complete idiots actually thought there was a shot that Jerry was going to wreck the cap by cutting guys with big contracts just to appease people.

It is news that just confirms what an idiot the man can be. He basically created this situation himself and has not once said that he made a mistake on any of his signings.

The same ego that made the man a billionaire is what is going to make this a mediocre team. I bet if you walked up to Bob Kraft and asked him what he knows about building a roster, he'd defer to the experts he hired to handle that. AND he wouldn't be ashamed of that fact in the least.

It just gets confirmed year after year that Jerry is a heck of a lot closer to Al Davis than he is to The Rooneys, Kraft or any of the other owners that 'get it'.

Someone posted in another thread that Jerry is a master marketer and I agree. But that somehow isn't enough for him.

 

[Mansta54]

It'd be nice if everyone that had such a big problem with Jerry would just leave. He's not going anywhere and the constant complaining is just annoying. It's his team, his players, his stadium.

People blame Jerry because they don't know what else is wrong and just point at "the top" grasping for straws.

Jerry brings in talent and he brings in what everyone thought at the time were brilliant offensive and defensive coaches. That's all a GM can do.

 

[Chief]

Look what Mike Singletary did with Vernon Davis.

But nobody has the courage to do that around Valley Ranch. And we know that Jerry Jones won't back it because if someone did, you'd have T.O. in Jerry's ear just like Deion was in Jerry's ear when he didn't like something being done inside the Cowboys lockerroom.

This franchise is screwed.

I hope I'm wrong. But I doubt it.

 

[theogt]

You would be fine just allowing him to become Al Davis Lite then and just shut up because its his team, his players and his stadium?

If I had a problem with Jerry and didn't think it would change, I wouldn't root for the team anymore. It's as simple as that. I'd go find another team or hobby. It's his team. He's not going anywhere.

I know what is wrong with this team. Everyone can see it. Can Jerry?

I'm sure you do.

That's what a poor GM does. You cannot just disregard chemistry and try and field a team of all-stars with a pushover head coach and weak staff of enablers. The problem right now is that he doesn't have a clue how a team works. For someone who has trophies in his case, he sure forgot quickly what put them there. We won those trophies because the players were not only talented, they were together and they had a coach who kept the machine running. The gears started spinning off as soon as Jimmy Johnson left.

He tried the hard-nosed coach and that didn't work out. So he tried a different approach. Now, they're going to change things and see if that works out. It's what every team that doesn't win the Super Bowl does every year. If it doesn't work out quite right, you tweak it a little and go from there. If just a few things had gone different this year, we'd been in the playoffs and everyone would be happy as can be right now. We're not the Lions.

As for the "team chemistry" part, I think that's a bunch of baloney. Teams are together because they're winning and are divided because they're losing. It's not the reverse.

 

[tyke1doe]

People blame Jerry because they don't know what else is wrong and just point at "the top" grasping for straws.

What did Truman say?

The ... Buck ... Stops ... Here.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

In other words, expect the same kind of garbage on the field in 2009....

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Appease people? He added these contracts. He is the one to blame. It is his mess to fix in the first place. It is not about making anyone happy. It about fielding a team that is unified, well-coached and on the same page.

And a lot of those guys, if they hadn't been resigned when they were, and they went somewhere else and played well everyone would have been roasting him to death cause he let people walk away.

Jerry has zero shot of winning in any situation. If he signs someone to a big deal, and then the team doesn't do well, he's an idiot cause he signed them to big deals and now cant cut them to change the team.

If doesn't sign them, the team doesn't do well, and the guy(s) he didn't resign go elsewhere and play well and help that team win then Jerry gets labled a moron for letting them leave.

The only person he's given a big deal to, in the last two years, that I totally disagree with at this point is Hamlin.


Of the guys who were given big deals who would you say they should have not given them to that we already had people on this roster who could have played instead of them?

When they resigned Flo and Hamlin this offseason who did we have who they could have plugged in at those spots instead? Maybe with Hamlin we could say we could have went with Watkins or Brown all year but I seriously don't think that would have been any better.

At LT whose taking Flo's place that was going to play so much better that it would have been ok to let him leave? From what I've seen from our backups it's not a pretty sight.

Owens, yeah they didn't necassarily need to give him a new deal when they did. He had this season left and then they could have let him go. But then what happens if they don't resign him, and the Roy Williams deal never happens, and we get into the offseason with Crayton and Austin as our only for sure returning WR's?

Then, again, Jerry gets roasted for not having resigned TO before it got to that point.

 

[Boysboy]

For anyone who cares, Todd Archer reported that if we cut TO, the cap hit would be only $680K.

 

[CosmicCowboy]

lets see how did that go....oh yeah 'meet the new boss..same as the old boss'...

 

[DCBoysfan]

Appease people? He added these contracts. He is the one to blame. It is his mess to fix in the first place. It is not about making anyone happy. It about fielding a team that is unified, well-coached and on the same page.

winner.winner chicken dinner

 

[theogt]

What did Truman say?

The ... Buck ... Stops ... Here.

Yeah, that's a nice cliche.

 

[isawoj]

when you say infuse fear,what would be the consequences,cant cut them,bench them Jerry dont have the nads to.

Bench them. I am a die hard Georgia Tech fan so I try and follow the guys on different teams just to see how they are doing.

Gary Guyton, a very raw, but athletic freak of a LB out of Tech went undrafted. New England signed him as an UDFA and by midseason, he was playing more defensive plays than Bruschi and Vrabel. In fact, Guyton and their first round LB Mayo often were on the field together in the nickle while years of experience and money sat on the sidelines. Guyton got dinged near the end of the season, but seems to be a part of the rotation for years to come.

No way that Wade would have the balls to play UDFA talent over guys who got paid. Just won't happen as long as Jerry wants his money on the field.