Twitter: Jerry: We can't buy a turnover

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Alexander

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Gotten used to losing, doesn't bother them anymore.
This is the loss where going forward you see them check out, one by one.

Even some of the team's supposedly best players did not care. Tyron Smith was awful. McClain was a complete and utter flop.
 

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bet Sean Peyton, Bill Belcheat and other good coaches could figure it out.......I would clean house....and go get Hue Jackson as a head coach.....Garrett has tried for 5yrs to figure it out .......its time for Garrett to move on.

It was time for Garrett to move on from Day 2. But nope, we're still stuck with his crap years later.
 

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At some point Jerry is going to realize Garrett isn't the answer. But until then he'll likely just continue to get "angry" and fire coordinators to feel better.
 

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This is the loss where going forward you see them check out, one by one.

Even some of the team's supposedly best players did not care. Tyron Smith was awful. McClain was a complete and utter flop.

They had the look of a team that has had the fight stopped at the end of the game. When guys are the ground despondent after they lose it has a sense of finality to it. I saw several players just lying on the turf after the game. It reminds me of Deion Sanders talking about that after they lost to Carolina in the 1996 playoffs. He said after the game he just didn't want to get off the ground. I don't even take Deion as a guy who was that passionate about football, but even he knew it was over and it hurt.
 

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They had the look of a team that has had the fight stopped at the end of the game. When guys are the ground despondent after they lose it has a sense of finality to it. I saw several players just lying on the turf after the game. It reminds me of Deion Sanders talking about that after they lost to Carolina in the 1996 playoffs. He said after the game he just didn't want to get off the ground. I don't even take Deion as a guy who was that passionate about football, but even he knew it was over and it hurt.

I remember that. Sanders acted like someone shot him.
 

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At some point Jerry is going to realize Garrett isn't the answer. But until then he'll likely just continue to get "angry" and fire coordinators to feel better.

Don't think there is anyway Marninelli survives this. The defense is already not good. When the effort level that Marnelli needs out of them starts to go, the scoreboard is gonna light up.
 
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Marinelli is overrated. This defense needs an enima this off season. New DC, some influx of talent.

I will start the enima: Marrinelli, 27, 39, 55, 96. King Crawford is looking like an overpaid Ratliff...... Move 42 from S to LB
 

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Even if your assessment of our talent is totally correct (and I don’t completely agree with it) we should be capable of more than four turnovers in eight games.

However my statement “and why that is the case is anybody’s guess” was directed towards the fact that no DC seems to be able to get our defense to generate turnovers on a regular basis.

Because our recent hires at DC have been mediocre. Kiffin was washed up. Ryan was overrated. Marinelli, I just don't know with this guy. One of his Bears teams led the league with 24 interceptions one year.

IMO, this entire thing has gotten stale. From Garrett on down. I am usually not one to make a change just to make a change but at this point, this franchise just seems stuck in neutral and Garrett is basically a .500 coach who just happened to have one really good season.

I just don't have much hope for the next 3-4 years, which is Romo's window.
 

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And I just realized that Jason Garret is the longest serving Cowboys HC since Tom Landry. I don't get the love affair the FO has with this guy. Every other HC was gone in four years or less, even the Big Tuna.

That part in bold can't be right, can it?...
 

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Marinelli should be fined (kidding) or something for one huge gaffe he's made.

Nick Hayden. Oh, I know, some here like to point out he apparently is effective in his role and based on metrics........... but last night, there were 3 key short yardage plays.

4th and goal from the 1........... Hayden gets pancaked and is one his back in like 2 seconds.

3rd and 2 later in the game........... he gets shoved back 3 yards.

4th and 1 in OT............. gets trucked again.

He's useless. And if Marinelli continues to operate under this premise that he can put any warm body at the 1 Tech as long as that guy works hard, then he needs a slap to the back of the head.
 

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Sometimes coaches lose it when they get older. It happens to everyone. Although, I would bet against with Marinelli. He has been one of the very good NFL defensive coordinators for a long time. Fact is, Wade Phillips, Marinelli and to some Zimmer have all been here and their defenses have all struggled. Phillips and Marinelli are two of probably the top 10 defensive coordinators over the past 20 years.

Maybe, just maybe, part of the blame should rely on our talent collectors. I know a lot seem to think they walk on water and I think in some cases they have been better from the terrible years where they were just awful. But how about finding scheme fits for these coordinators and not 2-3 excellent talents and then surround them with slop? In addition, that doesn't mean you take recommendations from Marinelli on who to draft (when he told them a D tackle didn't fit his scheme after months of scouting these players). Sure, you want his opinion, but your job as a GM is find the right fits so he can run his defense. It seems like every year we are always a few players away while some of our players do not feel like scheme fits in the Coordinators defense. It is a brutal cycle.
 

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That part in bold can't be right, can it?...

It's a little off. Johnson was here for 5 years.......... 89, 90, 91, 92, 93

But everyone else was 4 years or less. Garrett is tied with Johnson for tenure here (I didnt' include his interim tag year in 2010).
 

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Sometimes coaches lose it when they get older. It happens to everyone. Although, I would bet against with Marinelli. He has been one of the very good NFL defensive coordinators for a long time. Fact is, Wade Phillips, Marinelli and to some Zimmer have all been here and their defenses have all struggled. Phillips and Marinelli are two of probably the top 10 defensive coordinators over the past 20 years.

Maybe, just maybe, part of the blame should rely on our talent collectors. I know a lot seem to think they walk on water and I think in some cases they have been better from the terrible years where they were just awful. But how about finding scheme fits for these coordinators and not 2-3 excellent talents and then surround them with slop? In addition, that doesn't mean you take recommendations from Marinelli on who to draft (when he told them a D tackle didn't fit his scheme after months of scouting these players). Sure, you want his opinion, but your job as a GM is find the right fits so he can run his defense. It seems like every year we are always a few players away while some of our players do not feel like scheme fits in the Coordinators defense. It is a brutal cycle.

Absolutely. There is a talent issue here. Look at their whiffs........... Claiborne is playing OK, but they thought he'd be elite. Carr was a total whiff. How they thought Wilcox and Church were a competent S duo is beyond me. Their DL is overrated (and this fall directly on Marinelli who doesn't value the 1 tech) especially in the interior. Hayden is a bum and yet he gets a majority of the snaps.
 

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Absolutely. There is a talent issue here. Look at their whiffs........... Claiborne is playing OK, but they thought he'd be elite. Carr was a total whiff. How they thought Wilcox and Church were a competent S duo is beyond me. Their DL is overrated (and this fall directly on Marinelli who doesn't value the 1 tech) especially in the interior. Hayden is a bum and yet he gets a majority of the snaps.

Clairborne is a good example of a guy who is not a great scheme fit. Doesn't Marinelli wants cornerbacks who can tackle. That is not Mo's strength. Carr is what he is. I go back to what Risen said when he was signed. He is a pretty good 5th round pick and a guy you keep around for a few years as a starter. Giving him a huge contract was doomed from the start.
 

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Because our recent hires at DC have been mediocre. Kiffin was washed up. Ryan was overrated. Marinelli, I just don't know with this guy. One of his Bears teams led the league with 24 interceptions one year.

IMO, this entire thing has gotten stale. From Garrett on down. I am usually not one to make a change just to make a change but at this point, this franchise just seems stuck in neutral and Garrett is basically a .500 coach who just happened to have one really good season.

I just don't have much hope for the next 3-4 years, which is Romo's window.

What about Zimmer and Phillips?

Their defences have be pretty good since they left the Cowboys, yet while they were here the defense was remarkably similar to what's out there now.
 

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He wasted more than 30 seconds by not calling a timeout before the two-minute warning when we needed to give our offense time enough to score. If we had used our timeouts correctly, we might have had time to score a touchdown at the end instead of having to kick a field goal on FIRST DOWN from the Eagles' 26. The Eagles didn't stop us on that drive, the clock did -- and our poor use of our timeouts was the only reason.


I also felt like we could've easily gotten 3 more points had he just handed it to McFadden right before halftime instead of throwing a pass.


3rd and a mile was the time to play conservative imo.
 

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SMH...quit all of your dreaming for 'changes'. We ALL know how this season will play out. Romo comes back, does his best Houdini impression, covers up this current disaster and we go on a run of 5 straight to end the season. Just short on making the playoffs but more than enough for Jerry to praise the heart of this team for not quitting, announcing that Rod 'figured it out' and how Red did one heck of a job keeping this team focused. '2016-'17' will be the year of the 'boys! Stephen and I are so excited for what next year brings.'
 

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What about Zimmer and Phillips?

Their defences have be pretty good since they left the Cowboys, yet while they were here the defense was remarkably similar to what's out there now.

Zimmer had a top ranked defense in 2003........... #2 in points, #1 in yards. In 2005, they were #12 in points, #10 in yards. In 2007, Phillips' D was 13th in points and 9th in yardss. In 2009, his defense was #2 in points, #9 in yards.

Both guys put out better defenses than what Marinelli has.
 

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We don't hit anymore. What happened to this defense that swarmed to the ball last year and ripped balls out of opponents arms? There is no fire, no gang tackling, no jumping routes, no blitzes and we are sucking air early in the second quarter.

Do we miss Justin Durant and Bruce Carter this much? If so we had a terrible offseason in determining who to keep and who to release. McClain and Lee have not been anywhere near as good. Rod Marinelli must be really emabarassed this morning.
 
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