Jerry's Approach on Drafting QBs

[gtb1943]

one year is not a trend

Look at who gets to SBs and who wins SBs

Where are virtually all those QBs drafed?

Brady was the exception that proved the rule.

 

[G2]

The point went right over your head.. No wonder you don’t get it. Sad…

You have no point, but I get that you think you do.

 

[kskboys]

This is Jerry's history of drafting QB's since Aikman and you can see a distinctive pattern here. Keep in mind Aikman was drafted in 1989, 34 years ago. It's been 27 years since the Cowboys have even sniffed the NFC championship. Some of you weren't even alive the last time we had a QB good enough to play in that game.

Quincy Carter
Isaiah Standback
Tony Romo (undrafted)
Stephen McGee
Dak Prescott
Den DiNucci

This isn't counting Chad Hutchinson and Drew Henson who were playing baseball when Jerry Came calling.

The most important position on the team and the highest draft pick we invested was the 53rd overall pick (2nd Rd) for Quincy Carter who was a trainwreck. I think Jerry thinks he's smarter with this position than he is because Romo and Prescott turned out to be over achievers given their pedigree though neither were still able to get to the the conference championship with some very good teams. Now he thinks he has this gift of being able to find QB talent in unconventional ways.

You forgot some:

Mike White
Basket boy. What was his name, Tanner?

 

[sunalsorises]

Dallas hasn't really had a high enough pick to warrant a QB in the years between Aikman and Romo. Correct me if I am wrong because I am doing quick research. Aikman's last season was 2000. Romo's first was 2004.

In 2000 and 2001 Dallas had no first round pick.

In 2002, Dallas picked Roy Williams 8th. Joey Harrington and David Carr were already gone and neither were any good. Patrick Ramsey was taken in the first round after Dallas picked and that's no big loss.

In 2003, Dallas picked Terrence Newman 5th. Carson Palmer was already gone and he was arguably very good. They could have had Byron Leftwich, Kyle Boller, or Rex Grossman who were all taken in the first round after Dallas picked. None of them were any good.

In 2004, Dallas had no first round pick and Romo was pretty much the starter anyway.

P.S. Tony Banks and Ryan Leaf were comical attempts to bring in a vet.

 

[TwistedL0g1k]

Great OP. Management's failure to devote significant resources to the most important position in football is negligent.

JJ wants to prove his genius by finding a good QB without devoting high draft capital for him.

In some respects, Romo's success was a curse. It only served to confirm JJ's belief that he could fill the position without spending high draft picks.

The last time the team won a Super-Bowl was the last time it had a #1 QB- and spending a #1 overall pick on Aikman didn't stop them from spending another #1 pick on Walsh in the supplemental draft.

 

[b0xZZ]

Lol, no.

What exactly did Dak do in that game to help the team win that Cooper couldn’t? It wasn’t like the offense was humming and on top of that Cooper doesn’t throw those two boneheaded interceptions that were the difference in the game.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

Remember when he overdrafted Quincy because he wanted the next McNabb?

 

[kskboys]

Dallas hasn't really had a high enough pick to warrant a QB in the years between Aikman and Romo. Correct me if I am wrong because I am doing quick research. Aikman's last season was 2000. Romo's first was 2004.

In 2000 and 2001 Dallas had no first round pick.

In 2002, Dallas picked Roy Williams 8th. Joey Harrington and David Carr were already gone and neither were any good. Patrick Ramsey was taken in the first round after Dallas picked and that's no big loss.

In 2003, Dallas picked Terrence Newman 5th. Carson Palmer was already gone and he was arguably very good. They could have had Byron Leftwich, Kyle Boller, or Rex Grossman who were all taken in the first round after Dallas picked. None of them were any good.

In 2004, Dallas had no first round pick and Romo was pretty much the starter anyway.

P.S. Tony Banks and Ryan Leaf were comical attempts to bring in a vet.

Correct.

That's what comes from a refusal to ever tear it down and start over. Perennial .500.

 

[G2]

What exactly did Dak do in that game to help the team win that Cooper couldn’t? It wasn’t like the offense was humming and on top of that Cooper doesn’t throw those two boneheaded interceptions that were the difference in the game.

You're assuming Rush would have helped even get in the playoffs.
Again, did you even watch the Philly game that WASN'T a win or go home game?
Rush was awful. 180 yards and three INTs.

Yeah, he "wouldn't have thrown boneheaded INTs that were the difference in the game"

Only, that's exactly what he did, lol.

 

[Shane612]

This is Jerry's history of drafting QB's since Aikman and you can see a distinctive pattern here. Keep in mind Aikman was drafted in 1989, 34 years ago. It's been 27 years since the Cowboys have even sniffed the NFC championship. Some of you weren't even alive the last time we had a QB good enough to play in that game.

Quincy Carter
Isaiah Standback
Tony Romo (undrafted)
Stephen McGee
Dak Prescott
Den DiNucci

This isn't counting Chad Hutchinson and Drew Henson who were playing baseball when Jerry Came calling.

The most important position on the team and the highest draft pick we invested was the 53rd overall pick (2nd Rd) for Quincy Carter who was a trainwreck. I think Jerry thinks he's smarter with this position than he is because Romo and Prescott turned out to be over achievers given their pedigree though neither were still able to get to the the conference championship with some very good teams. Now he thinks he has this gift of being able to find QB talent in unconventional ways.

QBs are expensive.
So, draft someone who will not demand a large contract, and hope the defense can carry your team...

Problem is today a very average QB will demand $40,000,000.00 per year.

 

[Mr_437]

I read somewhere that The last 2 QBs for Dallas were brought in to be backups, and the Cowboys haven't gone out and got a guy. Romo n Dak kinda fell into their laps. I'm concerned about this team trying to find a franchise QB.

 

[basel90]

Why we will never win anything cause Jerry and Stephen have no idea

He literally fell into a golden situation with Romo. Undrafted QB who at the top of his game was argurably in the elite category but failed to build a team around him until it was to late and kept JG around way to long. He missed his only opportunity to win another title if not titles cause he has no idea what he's doing cause "we like our guys"

Agree. romo is a vastly better QB than dak , but never had the same OL and Defense to win a SB or reach a CCG. Dak had both and failed.

 

[Einstein]

Truth be told, Dak would have been drafted higher if there hadn't been the off field altercation while in college

 

[raven55]

JERRY NEVER DRAFTED A QUARTERBACK. Jimmy johnson did all jerry ever did is draft crap romo and dak are free agent and l a low round so you get what you pay for have you ever heard that before. both are great on statics but the it factor is not there and what i mean by that is the one moment like in a championship game he puts you over the top and both of these clowns were a waste of time and the that the way it goes for dumb and dumber

 

[TheCoolFan]

Jerry needs to stop being scared and go BIG at QB in the draft. We are in a golden age for offenses catered to make QBs look good. Jerry should not be scared anymore just because he had terrible QBs after Aikman and before Romo. The team was a lot different back then, drafting and personnel were horrible. The foundation here for a QB prospect to succeed today are much better than 20 years ago.

You can find a quality QB outside of the Top 10 - obviously it depends on the QB class and depth but it's not impossible!

• Ben Roethlisberger (11)
• Aaron Rodgers (24)
• Joe Flacco (18)
• Deshaun Watson (12)
• Lamar Jackson (32)

TBD but have shown some potential: Justin Fields (11), Mac Jones (15), Kenny Pickett (20)

I think the 2024 Draft could have some depth, exactly what we need to get our future QB at some point in the 1st round.

 

[morat1959]

THE APPROACH IS pay this back up, and bring no one else in here better than him to cause a QB controversy

This!!!!!

 

[starfan1]

Mr irrelevant did well why can't he

If you swap dak and Purdy the results would not change. Dak would look all world in san fran and Purdy would be inconsistent here thats my guess at the moment but Purdys sample size is small

 

[TwentyOne]

This is Jerry's history of drafting QB's since Aikman and you can see a distinctive pattern here. Keep in mind Aikman was drafted in 1989, 34 years ago. It's been 27 years since the Cowboys have even sniffed the NFC championship. Some of you weren't even alive the last time we had a QB good enough to play in that game.

Quincy Carter
Isaiah Standback
Tony Romo (undrafted)
Stephen McGee
Dak Prescott
Den DiNucci

This isn't counting Chad Hutchinson and Drew Henson who were playing baseball when Jerry Came calling.

The most important position on the team and the highest draft pick we invested was the 53rd overall pick (2nd Rd) for Quincy Carter who was a trainwreck. I think Jerry thinks he's smarter with this position than he is because Romo and Prescott turned out to be over achievers given their pedigree though neither were still able to get to the the conference championship with some very good teams. Now he thinks he has this gift of being able to find QB talent in unconventional ways.

Thats the problem. We dont invest into the QB position. Instead we hope on lady luck.

And this is why i dont understand people that argue that we shoudnt let go of Prescott because it is so hard to find a good one. Remember how the time was between Aikman and Romo?!

Well guess what ?! Of course it is hard to find a new one if you never try to.

As you already said: The most important and most expensive position and we invest zip, nada, nothing into it. Well no wonders that bums like Prescott can play hardball with us when it comes to contract negotiations. This is just a best practice of how to ruin a business.

 

[TwentyOne]

He also had serious interest in Johnny Football if reports were accurate

He was.

And for sure we know why. He needed a new drinking buddy badly.

 

[noshame]

It would be nice to have a quarterback that you could just forget about in the off season and fill positions on the rest of the team.

I can barely recall those seasons although it seems they ended around super bows.
Jerry start drafting QBs and bring in a QB coach!