Jimmy Johnson "I Want To Score."

[65fastback2plus2]

Not really. We lost the game so I don't see how it's better. At best, it's the same.

no guts, no glory. at least if you go down swinging, you go down like a man. if you go down running, you go down like a coward.

big difference to me. yes its still a loss. but one you chickened out on and one you put up a fight.

 

[CaptainCreed]

I understand the hindsight is 20/20 of course you can say we should have tried to pick up the first down because we lost argument but was this ending not predictable/likely? I thought we were going to lose the game after the three and out by the offense the drive before, giving DET the ball down three with plenty of time left but the D got a stop. The defense has been poor against passing offenses all year, several 400+ yard passers, AND no Wilcox, Church, or Claiborne? We are throwing Heath, Webb, and Hamilton out there to save the day? If they started all season, we would probably have multiple 500+ yard passers against us by now because they do not have the experience. Sure they could turn out to be good players, but lets not throw them in the fire when we have a veteran offense and they are the last options in the secondary. Garrett had to realize the risk he was taking throwing those guys back out there expecting two stops in a row to end the game.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

no guts, no glory. at least if you go down swinging, you go down like a man. if you go down running, you go down like a coward.

big difference to me. yes its still a loss. but one you chickened out on and one you put up a fight.

OK. Well, at the end of the day, it's the same. We lost and no matter how you characterize it, that doesn't change. I actually think Garretts actions in the Detroit game were fine. Execution cost us that game, not play calling IMO.

 

[cowboys2233]

the difference is romo vs aikman. say what you want about romo, that catastrophic interceptions has led to a loss of trust.

Oh please. Catastrophic interceptions? This is what drives me nuts. We needed a SINGLE FIRST DOWN in the middle of the field, and the Lions had to play against the run. How in the hell do we not put the ball in our best player's hands to get a single first down? They KNEW they couldn't run out the clock but obviously when into "clock killing mode" instead of "we need a single stinkin' first down" mode anyway. With guys like Dez, Cole Beasley and Witten, we can't find a way to pick up 10 freakin' passing yards in three freakin' plays? It's utterly insane. And I'm now on the "Fire Garrett" bandwagon because of it. This man had play calling duties removed so he could focus on managing a game in specific instances like this. And yet again, he blows it. I'm so sick of his playing not to lose routine. We needed ten yards. That's it. After grinding out an entire game, this buffoon decides that gaining ten yards through the air is just too difficult a task.

 

[Blackspider214]

I definitely remember that Pats game. So disgusting. We had just dominated their defense the last few times and then go into a shell. Typical Garrett.

Yet when we are up 20 in the 2nd half against the Lions, we are still slinging it all over the place.

We play not to lose, never to win.

Anyone remember the Giants game to open the season in 2007 on SNF? It was a back and forth high scoring game. They score at the end to make it a 3pt game. On 3rd down, we hit a WR in stride and breaks it for a very long TD score to ice it. Where is that mentality? That was Wade's tenure but Garrett was the OC at the time.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

OK. Well, at the end of the day, it's the same. We lost and no matter how you characterize it, that doesn't change.

it doesnt...but in the same fashion...as a native texan, we also lost at the alamo. It is never really talked about as a loss now is it? Nope. they went down fighting! Just like I dont feel as bad about the denver loss. Went down fighting.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

I would rather lose the game by trying to win than by playing not to lose.

We have, by far, the worst defense in the NFL. Everyone knows that if the game is close, the defense will lose it for you. So how in the world can you leave the game in the defense's hands to win?

This team needs to play like the Broncos, trying to score the minute they get off the bus. Be aggressive, not let the defense dictate what you are going to do. They need to score as many points as possible, and not leave it to the defense. What is so hard about that? We won't win many games where we let the other team stay in the game, because we will lose it in the end.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

it doesnt...but in the same fashion...as a native texan, we also lost at the alamo. It is never really talked about as a loss now is it? Nope. they went down fighting! Just like I dont feel as bad about the denver loss. Went down fighting.

Really? This is what you have, the Alamo?

OK, well, I think this is a little over dramatic but OK. Roughly 200 died at the Alamo as a rear guard, delaying action for the Army of Texas under Sam Houston. However, the Alamo did result in allowing the Army of the Republic of Texas to capture Santa Anna at the Battle of San Jacinto, did it not? Thus paving the way for Texas to win independence. Is your point that the game between Detroit and Dallas will eventually land us in the Super Bowl?

 

[Rack]

OK. Well, at the end of the day, it's the same. We lost and no matter how you characterize it, that doesn't change. I actually think Garretts actions in the Detroit game were fine. Execution cost us that game, not play calling IMO.

Agreed. I would have been fine throwing the ball if it were 3rd and around 8. But I believe it was 3rd and 13 or so. The fact remains if TSmith doesn't hold then the lions end up having to go around 90 yards with about 35 seconds on the clock and no timeouts.

 

[Doomsay]

I hear what you are saying....but in EVERY case Romo had JUST led the team on multiple scoring drives. You let the defense off the hook. A defense that is on its heels because of multiple scoring drives. If you don't trust Romo, why give him 100m? Why turn the game over to a couple street free agent safeties that you just signed THIS week? Why hand the ball off to a 4th string RB who bounces the ball outside because he is too inexperienced to KNOW how to win? Garrett is the HEAD coach. He supposedly knows how to win. Romo is the franchise QB, he supposedly knows how to win. Dez is a top 5 WR, he supposedly is unstoppable. And we chose NONE of them as options. And people wonder why Dez was livid. What do you think Brady, Manning, Stafford etc would do? Try to WIN the game. Not give the other team a chance to try to win!

Nice write up

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

Nice write up

We basically announced to the other team that "we don't think our guy can win it, let's see if your's can"! When we did that in New Englad, and dared Tom Brady to beat us....I was livid. I chalked it up to Garrett learning on the job. But he has done it every time since. And now we know that is WHO HE IS. And what about this defense on Sunday suggested daring Stafford/Megatron to beat us? Total lack of situational awareness. The guy basically set a NFL record...and we still thought it was a better idea to see if they could do what they had done ALL DAY! How deflating was it for Dez and Romo to watch our head coach give the opposing QB/WR a chance to do something he did not give his own guys?!!!!!!!!! So Garrett trusted a couple of street free agent safeties, a rookie CB(because Claiborne was hurt) moreso than he trusted Romo, who is a top 10 QB....and Dez who is a top 5 WR? Of course Dez went off....I won't even tell you what the people at my house did.

 

[dupree89]

the difference is romo vs aikman. say what you want about romo, that catastrophic interceptions has led to a loss of trust.

I 100% agree with you. We can argue whether its right or wrong, whether Romo is dependable or not....but Garrett clearly tightens up late in games. It is obvious he limits how much Romo can do late.

And I have to be fair here....if Romo was flinging the ball all over the field while up 3 late in the game and he threw an INT.....many people would be KILLING JG for letting Romo throw.

 

[gbrittain]

Some of you crack me up with unrealistic expectations. The Romo blame / hate is out of control. Romo has consistently played without a running game or defense and more often than not a decent offensive line. Now lets take a look at the QBs that Romo haters love to love; Ben R and Eli M.

They too are playing with a sub par running game and defense. Just like magic they look pathetic. Ben R has 4 4th QTR INTs and 2 Fumbles and Eli Manning has 8 4th QTR INTs and by the way some of those turnovers have been game sealers.

Playing at the level Romo is playing at given the shoddy construction of this roster is the exception and not the rule. Again, look no further than Eli and Ben to see what happens when you are playing with considerably less than a full deck. All of a sudden instead of "Clutchness" we are talking about Eli's 17 turnovers and Ben's 11 turnovers. Where did the "clutch" in their game go? Funny how that works.

 

[Gameover]

Dallas leads the Giants 35-29. They have the ball on their own 20 with 3:14 to go in the game. Dallas had scored on the last two possessions by touchdown passes from Romo. They again had two runs for a total of 5 yards. On third down Romo was rushed and had to throw the ball away. They punted the ball away.

The Giants got the ball at their own 42 with 2:12 on the clock. They scored in 6 plays and got a two point conversion to win the game 37-34.

Nice revisionist history. Romo overthrew a wide open Miles Austin. He wasn't forced to throw the ball away.

 

[scottsp]

One guy was never afraid to put his ba**s in a vise, to challenge his players, and make them believe they were going to win. That guy, time and time again, rolled the dice, staking his rep, his credibility (because, remember he came into league with none). His gut instinct proved more reliable than any chart and he didn't burn timeouts to reconsider. The man was all-in and his players would follow him anywhere.

I don't doubt Jason's passion, and who could doubt the man's intelligence? We might question his football acumen on some level. What I do wonder about is his ability to lead and sell his brand to the players. The final question would likely be more of an indictment on the organization and structure. But that's another thread entirely.

In a league that sees most of it's games come down to the final couple of minutes, the smallest of details matter; it's the little things that get you beat. The least of which should be whether or not your players believe they can close out a game. That much should be ingrained. Call it confidence or whatever.

What we are seeing these days more resembles doubt all the way up to outright panic. And that's when we have a lead late in games. Perhaps that is why we seem more brazen on the field when we are trailing on the scoreboard. What risk is there? You were going to lose anyway.

 

[Gameover]

Nice revisionist history. Romo overthrew a wide open Miles Austin. He wasn't forced to throw the ball away.

Reality..

1:35 Tony overthrows wide open Miles Austin. Jason Garrett's fault? Jimmy's brave call doesn't look so smart if Aikman cant Harper in stride.

 

[bsheeern]

I mean seriously If ANY COACH Had that team from the 90's they would wanna score too. SERIOUSLY!!!!! DO SOME OF YOU REALLY NOT SEE THAT???

I mean some of you need to come to terms with reality! WE HAD A 6 POINT LEAD WITH WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN 20-30 SECONDS LEFT ON THE CLOCK!!!!

TYRON'S PENALTY KILLED US. PERIOD.

Let's see:
1. Your All Pro Guard is out of the game.
2. The Lions are out of timeouts
3. You throw 1 incomplete pass & you ARE GIVING Them a FREE TIMEOUT.
4. Every INCOMPLETION = FREE TIMEOUT.
5. Every PENALTY = FREE TIMOUT
6. BACKUP GUARD was clearly allowing pressure up the middle.
7. 1 SACK = NO FIELD GOAL = LIONS ONLY NEED 3 POINTS TO TIE
8. Tyron's penalty came on 3rd down. AFTER OUR LINE COULDN'T RUN BLOCK ON THE PREVIOUS 2 DOWNS. HOW DO YOU EXPECT THEM TO MAGICALLY PASS BLOCK???
9. You put your PLAYERS in the BEST POSITION TO SUCCEED. DON'T WHINE AND CRY WHEN YOUR QB GETS KILLED BECAUSE YOU EXPECT YOUR BACKUP GUARD TO BLOCK FAIRLEY OR SUH.

 

[ufcrules1]

I 100% agree with you. We can argue whether its right or wrong, whether Romo is dependable or not....but Garrett clearly tightens up late in games. It is obvious he limits how much Romo can do late.

And I have to be fair here....if Romo was flinging the ball all over the field while up 3 late in the game and he threw an INT.....many people would be KILLING JG for letting Romo throw.

That is right. JG is basically in a no win situation. He doesn't trust Romo due to past history but the defense is known to give up big plays too. So what do you do? When I watched the game, I thought JG made the right decision.

 

[Carolina Cowboy]

Garrett is in over his head - clear as day.

Sarge - Agreed on this, but isn't this indicative of the entire organization?

 

[Sarge]

Sarge - Agreed on this, but isn't this indicative of the entire organization?

There is no question that "stuff" flows downhill - and Jerry is at the tippy top.