Jimmy Johnson in his book "Swagger," in order to win SB, you need a great QB not a good one

[nate dizzle]

Explain to all of us living in reality how a "noodle arm" backup qb has the 3rd longest completion in the air this year in the entire NFL?

We all would love to hear this next level analysis from you.

Who are you talking about? When I say noodle armed I am talking about Rush and Purdy. Also what players it you are referencing?

 

[Ken]

Who are you talking about? When I say noodle armed I am talking about Rush and Purdy. Also what players it you are referencing?

My misunderstanding...thought it was about Dak lol

Carry on...lol

 

[75boyz]

Advance apologies for plagiarizing Catch17's quote but it has become the standard rule now imo.
And that is:
We need to stop trying to figure out ways to win with Dak. We paid him to be the answer not the problem.

The discussion on Rayne Dakota Prescott begins and ends with these statements imo.

 

[Legend]

Same reason I stated above.

The talent erodes. For Dallas...no salary cap and they had the most talent until it was eroded by the Cap.

Favre kept running into Dallas.

Young ran into Dallas and talent eroded after they were found cheating in 1994.

Also, wear and tear; injuries; and aging.

 

[nate dizzle]

My misunderstanding...thought it was about Dak lol

Carry on...lol

No worries. Imo Dak has an average NFL arm. I'm assuming the play you meant was the one to Hilton. If you watch that play you will see Dak has to put his whole body into that throw. Guys with elite arms like Allen can fling it 40 yards throwing off their back foot.

 

[noshame]

What you need is a quarterback that's not going to lose the Super Bowl for you

 

[Captain-Crash]

No worries. Imo Dak has an average NFL arm. I'm assuming the play you meant was the one to Hilton. If you watch that play you will see Dak has to put his whole body into that throw. Guys with elite arms like Allen can fling it 40 yards throwing off their back foot.

well, dak has a bad thumb, shoulder, ankle, and probably brain too, I can't believe you guys still hating on the legend of dak prescott. I miss those daks is better than so and so threads. sheesh, I guess we will never see them again.

 

[Ken]

No worries. Imo Dak has an average NFL arm. I'm assuming the play you meant was the one to Hilton. If you watch that play you will see Dak has to put his whole body into that throw. Guys with elite arms like Allen can fling it 40 yards throwing off their back foot.

Allen has a 62.3 yard completion this year and Daks is 62.2.

Dak's completion is the 4th longest in the NFL the last two years.

Try again.

 

[KJJ]

If you watched the game; why are you trying to down play Aikman like he rode Emmitt Smith to victory?

I cannot see how fans who watched the Cowboys games live in the early 1990s would ever try to defend Romo and Dak.

Those two were/are not good enough in the playoffs.

Winning a divisional round playoff game should be routine instead of an insurmountable task for the past 27 years.

Nonetheless, that was a huge hold by the 49ers. So not really a break for the Cowboys.

The 49ers got their break in the 1994 NFC Championship when Deion was not penalized for pass interference.

I’m not downplaying Aikman at all he was a great QB but anyone who followed football back in the 90s knows their offense revolved around our great OL and Emmitt Smith and the running game. There’s a reason he became the all-time NFL’s leading rusher. When Emmitt was leading the league in rushing in 92 the Cowboys also had the number one defense. When the Cowboys won the Super Bowl that year Aikman passed for just over 3400 yards and 23 TDs. When they won the Super Bowl in 93 he passed for 3100 yards and only 15 TDs due to our great running attack and defense. Those numbers wouldn’t get it done with the teams we had under Romo and Dak.

I’m certainly not trying to downplay what Aikman did but the facts are Romo and Dak had to do more because the NFL has become a passing league and they never had defenses like the ones the Cowboys had in the 90s. Go look at the struggles Aikman had early in his career and late in his career when he didn’t have the great teams around him. He got booed late in his career and fans wanted him replaced by Randall Cunningham. The fact the 49ers had a holding call that brought back that long TD to Jerry Rice in the 92 conference title game was a huge break for the Cowboys. The 49ers got several breaks in the 94 conference title game with three early turnovers. That’s what cost the Cowboys that game.

 

[plasticman]

The Cowboys won three SB's with an overall #1 draft pick and two SB's with a Quarterback that would have been the overall #1 draft pick were it not for a 6 year mandatory military committment

Both QB's are in the Hall of Fame.

Therefore, Jimmy's opinion is backed by Cowboys history.

 

[Bullflop]

Dak will very likely never be a great QB, just about as much as Jerry & Son will never shine in what they do. Those of us entertaining ideas of this team reaching a Super Bowl with that being the case are setting themselves up for disappointment. Being entertained is much more realistic with these scenarios continuing, imho. There are far more tragic things in life to be concerned about. Tempering our expectations will be highly advisable.

 

[Motorola]

I guess the only positive is as of this season none of the ELITE QBs have established themselves IN THE NFC.
I understand Rodgers & Brady but they are close to the end.

None of the other starting QBs on the 14 other NFC teams are not, nor should be considered ----ELITE.

 

[LatinMind]

How you think the bucs and Ravens, the eagles feel about this?

 

[shabazz]

Burrow ad Mahomes are elite
Hurts had an elite season but nothing more than that
Purdy……who the hell knows?

Prescott…..cow dung

 

[jterrell]

various:
Jimmy's book was written about the pre-salary cap era.
When you could legit build super teams it was much harder to win with normal QBs.
Dak is as good as the QB who won the SB last year.

 

[Landryhat73]

None of the other starting QBs on the 14 other NFC teams are not, nor should be considered ----ELITE.

It’s the only saving grace- wouldn’t stand a chance in the AFC

 

[Legend]

I’m not downplaying Aikman at all he was a great QB but anyone who followed football back in the 90s knows their offense revolved around our great OL and Emmitt Smith and the running game. There’s a reason he became the all-time NFL’s leading rusher. When Emmitt was leading the league in rushing in 92 the Cowboys also had the number one defense. When the Cowboys won the Super Bowl that year Aikman passed for just over 3400 yards and 23 TDs. When they won the Super Bowl in 93 he passed for 3100 yards and only 15 TDs due to our great running attack and defense. Those numbers wouldn’t get it done with the teams we had under Romo and Dak.

I’m certainly not trying to downplay what Aikman did but the facts are Romo and Dak had to do more because the NFL has become a passing league and they never had defenses like the ones the Cowboys had in the 90s. Go look at the struggles Aikman had early in his career and late in his career when he didn’t have the great teams around him. He got booed late in his career and fans wanted him replaced by Randall Cunningham. The fact the 49ers had a holding call that brought back that long TD to Jerry Rice in the 92 conference title game was a huge break for the Cowboys. The 49ers got several breaks in the 94 conference title game with three early turnovers. That’s what cost the Cowboys that game.

Different eras.

Who cares about your regular season stats if you could not get it done in the playoffs? Romo and Dak currently…

Who cares about your regular season stats if you won championships? Aikman and Roger

Aikman’s and Roger’s post season success > Romo’s and Dak’s regular season stats

5 SB rings > 0 rings.

It is about winning SBs.

What you should do is compare Aikman versus the top QB in his era and Romo and Dak versus the top QBs in their eras.

Aikman has the most SB wins than the top QBs of his era which include Young, Favre, and Elway. Montana was at the end of his career in the early 1990s.

He also got the best of Young, Favre, and Kelly for the most part during the playoffs.

Aikman was considered among the best QBs of his era.

Romo on the other hand lost to Rogers and Favre in the playoffs.

Dak lost to Rodgers in the playoffs too.

Based on Romo’s and Dak’s regular season stats; were they ever considered among the top 3 QBs of their eras?

 

[Cowboys5217]

various:
Jimmy's book was written about the pre-salary cap era.
When you could legit build super teams it was much harder to win with normal QBs.
Dak is as good as the QB who won the SB last year.

You can't claim he is as good as "x" if "x" has a ring while Dak hasn't even sniffed one.

 

[BigD_95]

After 7 years with Dak, I hold Jimmy's philosophy to be true. Dak will never get us to a SB, let alone win us one.

So, our fans aren't looking at a SB for another 4 or more years? Ugh

Dak didn’t need to be great - he just needed to not suck

Dak is too inconsistent to with 3 or 4 games in a row in the playoffs

 

[KJJ]

Different eras.

Who cares about your regular season stats if you could not get it done in the playoffs? Romo and Dak currently…

Who cares about your regular season stats if you won championships? Aikman and Roger

Aikman’s and Roger’s post season success > Romo’s and Dak’s regular season stats

5 SB rings > 0 rings.

It is about winning SBs.

What you should do is compare Aikman versus the top QB in his era and Romo and Dak versus the top QBs in their eras.

Aikman has the most SB wins than the top QBs of his era which include Young, Favre, and Elway. Montana was at the end of his career in the early 1990s.

He also got the best of Young, Favre, and Kelly for the most part during the playoffs.

Aikman was considered among the best QBs of his era.

Romo on the other hand lost to Rogers and Favre in the playoffs.

Dak lost to Rodgers in the playoffs too.

Based on Romo’s and Dak’s regular season stats; were they ever considered among the top 3 QBs of their eras?

The rules have opened up the passing game and have perfected QBs. You have average QBs that have a higher career passer ratings than Hall of Fame QBs of the 70s, 80s and 90s. Romo and Dak were never considered amongst the top three QBs because of their lack of postseason success. Both had seasons where they passed for almost 5000 yards, but it led to nothing. Aikman was considered a top three QB despite never having big numbers because of his Super Bowl wins. His Super Bowl wins are why he’s in the Hall of Fame.