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Just herd Jimmy Johnson on espn said that he was at valley ranch for a couple of hours talking to some of the coaches and especially Jason Garrett. He was talking to Garrett for about an hour or so on how to handle Romo.

He said Romo is a very good qb it's just how you have to handle him.
ie...when he plays in big games make the game plan very simple and keep the reigns on him. When he plays against teams with much less talent than allow him to do a little bit of gun slinging to get it out of his system, he says you dont want to hold him back in every game just against weak teams... It's sounds good to me. The Jimmster is still workin it! I just hope Garrett listen to this valuable advice, again it sounds really good to me.


Jimmy is reading our posts!! That's exactly what many have been saying for two years now. Pull back the reigns on Romo, limit his passing so he doesn't blow the game. Run the ball more,..ie keep it simple...

We have arguably the best Trio of backs in the league but we pass 65-75% of the time. I don't care if you have a more mature QB back there like Payton Manning, you're gonna have turnovers.

Nope. The opposite is the exact same play calling that has been killing us for 2 years now. Romo can't be trusted in big games. We can dominate the clock by running the ball, then when other teams stack the box you hit em deep, but not before. We have it backwards. Right now teams are committed to stopping our passing game and we are only dominating the weaker teams.

We need to establish a run game for these reasons:

1) Time of Possession = Rested & Better D.
2) Limit Romo's mistakes.
3) Keep opposing teams offense off the field.

If we can sustain longer drives we can beat stronger teams. If we get in a shootout (Like last week) against stronger opponents, Romo's chances of blowing the game increase.

December Tony has proven time and time again that he can't win the game in the air, now he's showing up early and you we wanna continue to put the game in his hands?????:confused: :confused: :confused:
 

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Dude, haven't you read? There's nothing wrong with our offense. At all.

And after touting that Jimmy interview on 103.3 yesterday, I got busy and had to miss all but about the last three seconds of it. And it seems that 103.3 somehow forgot to podcast it. :banghead:
 

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CowboyFan74;2969471 said:
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Jimmy is reading our posts!! That's exactly what many have been saying for two years now. Pull back the reigns on Romo, limit his passing so he doesn't blow the game. Run the ball more,..ie keep it simple...

We have arguably the best Trio of backs in the league but we pass 65-75% of the time. I don't care if you have a more mature QB back there like Payton Manning, you're gonna have turnovers.

Nope. The opposite is the exact same play calling that has been killing us for 2 years now. Romo can't be trusted in big games. We can dominate the clock by running the ball, then when other teams stack the box you hit em deep, but not before. We have it backwards. Right now teams are committed to stopping our passing game and we are only dominating the weaker teams.

We need to establish a run game for these reasons:

1) Time of Possession = Rested & Better D.
2) Limit Romo's mistakes.
3) Keep opposing teams offense off the field.

If we can sustain longer drives we can beat stronger teams. If we get in a shootout (Like last week) against stronger opponents, Romo's chances of blowing the game increase.

December Tony has proven time and time again that he can't win the game in the air, now he's showing up early and you we wanna continue to put the game in his hands?????:confused: :confused: :confused:

we don't throw that much. it does seem like it, but we don't. we have passed 56 times this year and ran 53, which is like 52% pass. None the less I agree with what you and Jimmy are saying.
 

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CowboyFan74;2969471 said:

We have arguably the best Trio of backs in the league but we pass 65-75% of the time.

Baloney. We had a perfect 29:29 run pass ratio against NY.

Time to find a new reason to blame Garrett.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2969474 said:
Dude, haven't you read? There's nothing wrong with our offense. At all.

And after touting that Jimmy interview on 103.3 yesterday, I got busy and had to miss all but about the last three seconds of it. And it seems that 103.3 somehow forgot to podcast it. :banghead:

Nobody is saying that lol come on now.

But I find it hard to question an offense that scored 31 points despite 4 turnovers against a very good NY defense, and put up 34 in the opener, with an average of 32.5 per game.
 

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NextGenBoys;2969501 said:
Nobody is saying that lol come on now.

But I find it hard to question an offense that scored 31 points despite 4 turnovers against a very good NY defense, and put up 34 in the opener, with an average of 32.5 per game.

Agreed. The way to measure an O is on points scored. The way to measure a D is on points allowed. I think the offense could win the majority of their games scoring 30-something per.
 

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NextGenBoys;2969501 said:
Nobody is saying that lol come on now.

But I find it hard to question an offense that scored 31 points despite 4 turnovers against a very good NY defense, and put up 34 in the opener, with an average of 32.5 per game.

I don't know about everyone else, but I'm not questioning the offenses production, its the turnovers and TOP that needs to get decreased and increased respectively so the team can work together more harmoniously (the O not putting the D on the field too long or putting them in bad spots because of turnovers or bad field position).
 

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NextGenBoys;2969497 said:
Baloney. We had a perfect 29:29 run pass ratio against NY.

Time to find a new reason to blame Garrett.

Honestly, this ratio should have been heavily slanted alot more towards the Running Game Sunday against the Giants.

I just have to wonder what exactly is meant by "reign him in" and "keep the game plan simple"?

I really don't think our Offensive Playcalling against the Giants was overly complex.
 

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JerryFan;2969486 said:
we don't throw that much. it does seem like it, but we don't. we have passed 56 times this year and ran 53, which is like 52% pass. None the less I agree with what you and Jimmy are saying.

Well then we need to reduce it to 45% pass, 55% run. Or maybe even 60-40 leaning on the run.

NextGenBoys;2969497 said:
Baloney. We had a perfect 29:29 run pass ratio against NY.

Time to find a new reason to blame Garrett.

13 for 29 and three interceptions is perfect??? We only blame Garrett for continuing the madness. It's time to pull back the reigns..

Sportsbabe;2969507 said:
Agreed. The way to measure an O is on points scored. The way to measure a D is on points allowed. I think the offense could win the majority of their games scoring 30-something per.


In theory that sounds true but the reality is that we typically score quickly. We also have a tendency to go 1-2-3-punt, which means we are losing the time of possession battle, which in turn wears down our defense.

The final offensive possession of the game we ran the ball down their throats, but that was after 4 full quarters. I knew our D wouldn't hold, they were clearly gassed. They had been on the field the majority of the night.
 

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the Boys can score in bunches but check out where they rank with 3 and outs... and they get alot of 4 and outs, after picking up 10 on the first play of the drive!



either way they have problems with converting 3rd downs and that is a WR problem!
 

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MONT17;2969549 said:
the Boys can score in bunches but check out where they rank with 3 and outs... and they get alot of 4 and outs, after picking up 10 on the first play of the drive!



either way they have problems with converting 3rd downs and that is a WR problem!

What route do they run the most?
 

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NextGenBoys;2969497 said:
Baloney. We had a perfect 29:29 run pass ratio against NY.

Time to find a new reason to blame Garrett.

That and I thought the gameplan was simple and Garrett made it even simpler as the game went along. The 3rd pick was not on a tricky play. Deep throws generally should be easier for the QB to not be picked (completing the pass is a different story) because the reads are easier to make. Find the deep safety. Find the corner.

That's all the 3rd pick was. Find the deep safety. Play action and find the deep safety again. If the deep safety didn't bite and/or the WR doesn't have a beat on the corner, go elsewhere with the ball or throw it away. Romo didn't grasp that idea.

I agree with Jimmy's thoughts, but I'm not sure what Garrett could've done. We had to pass the ball since it was still the 3rd quarter and we needed to keep the defense honest so the running game could have some space to run. We had ran out of that formation 10 times in a row. Take a chance and possibly put the G-Men away. If it's not there, throw it away.

Hey, I knocked the hell out of Garrett last season, but he's done a great job this year from a playcalling standpoint IMO. He still hasn't convinced me that he's a great O-Coordinator, but I can't fault him for the first two games. Now we need to see if he can get Romo on the same page and if not, if he's got the guts to find a replacement for Romo.





YAKUZA
 

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If we ran 10 times in a row, we should of kept doing it, cause it was obviously working and they were playing pass. If you find an exploit, you take advantage of it like no other until they prove they can stop it.
 

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Yakuza Rich;2969603 said:
That and I thought the gameplan was simple and Garrett made it even simpler as the game went along. The 3rd pick was not on a tricky play. Deep throws generally should be easier for the QB to not be picked (completing the pass is a different story) because the reads are easier to make. Find the deep safety. Find the corner.

That's all the 3rd pick was. Find the deep safety. Play action and find the deep safety again. If the deep safety didn't bite and/or the WR doesn't have a beat on the corner, go elsewhere with the ball or throw it away. Romo didn't grasp that idea.

I agree with Jimmy's thoughts, but I'm not sure what Garrett could've done. We had to pass the ball since it was still the 3rd quarter and we needed to keep the defense honest so the running game could have some space to run. We had ran out of that formation 10 times in a row. Take a chance and possibly put the G-Men away. If it's not there, throw it away.

Hey, I knocked the hell out of Garrett last season, but he's done a great job this year from a playcalling standpoint IMO. He still hasn't convinced me that he's a great O-Coordinator, but I can't fault him for the first two games. Now we need to see if he can get Romo on the same page and if not, if he's got the guts to find a replacement for Romo.

YAKUZA

And just think there are many that want to string up Garret over that 3rd pick because they feel it was all his fault.

I'm still not sure how they came to that conclusion.
 

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NextGenBoys;2969497 said:
Baloney. We had a perfect 29:29 run pass ratio against NY.

Time to find a new reason to blame Garrett.

when your QB is having a stinker of a game and the running game is averaging 9YPC your goal shouldn't be a perfect 50/50 game on offense
 

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Ren;2969611 said:
when your QB is having a stinker of a game and the running game is averaging 9YPC your goal shouldn't be a perfect 50/50 game on offense


OK. What should it be?
 

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Jimmy Johnson would have already won a playoff game with Romo QB'ing this team.
 

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big dog cowboy;2969528 said:
I read the title of this thread and got excited for just a second.
lol werd. At first I was like " http://img27.*************/img27/3116/eek5xt.gif " but then I was like http://img195.*************/img195/7816/squint.gif
 
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