Jimmy Johnson was at Valley Ranch

[Ren]

Rigghhhhhttttttt.

i have now seen the light and the 3 straight passes from our own endzone at the end of the first half leading to a turnover and the 1st down pick in the 2nd half when we had the lead, our QB was struggling and we where running for 9YPC where all brilliant calls

 

[Ren]

OK, so you're going to eliminate your 2-time probowl QB from your offense- nice.

And in the second half the ratio was closer to 60/40 towards the run.

You can't run every single down. That's what's you're inferring the Cowboys should have done.

He wasn't playing like a 2 time probowler and in a game where he was basically a walking mistake you're damn right i'd want to eliminate him from it. Why risk him screwing up any more just for the sake of balance unless you have to?

 

[MichaelWinicki]

He wasn't playing like a 2 time probowler and in a game where he was basically a walking mistake you're damn right i'd want to eliminate him from it. Why risk him screwing up any more just for the sake of balance unless you have to?

Then call Jerreh and have Romo get released.

I'm sure that'll make you feel better.

If you think this is going to be a 60/40 run/pass team-- well, you may want to start rooting for Tennessee then.

 

[Ren]

Then call Jerreh and have Romo get released.

I'm sure that'll make you feel better.

If you think this is going to be a 60/40 run/pass team-- well, you may want to start rooting for Tennessee then.

Quit putting words in my mouth, i want our coaches to call plays according to how the game is playing out not to aim for some 50/50 or 60/40 balance at the cost of being effective. If that means to run the ball the run if it means pass then pass.
Putting that game in Romos hands when we didn't have to was stupid and we got the L to prove it, you can keep your precious 50/50 if it's going to cost us Ws

 

[Rampage]

Ren is on fire in this thread!

 

[CF74]

Then call Jerreh and have Romo get released.

I'm sure that'll make you feel better.

If you think this is going to be a 60/40 run/pass team-- well, you may want to start rooting for Tennessee then.

If we continue that trend then we can expect the same results as always. We will dominate weaker teams and lose to stronger teams. At that rate it's 50/50 we get a wild card. Is it safe to say we are doomed for mediocrity then cause that's what the trend shows? However if we play towards our strengths, we may go further.

 

[Rampage]

If we continue that trend then we can expect the same results as always. We will dominate weaker teams and lose to stronger teams. At that rate it's 50/50 we get a wild card. Is it safe to say we are doomed for mediocrity then cause that's what the trend shows? However if we play towards our strengths, we may go further.

good post man

 

[dbair1967]

Let's focus on stronger teams here, Tampa is rebuilding. You don't think multiple 1-2-3-punts didn't hurt our defense? We don't sustain many drives and that does affect field position as well as time on the field. The offense isn't exactly helping the defense here...

I guess I dont understand your post. They had one 3 and out vs Tampa, two other drives were 2 plays and TD and 3 plays and TD. In that game we had only two drives that didnt get a 1st down. The lone 3 and out and the last drive of the game (2 plays to kill clock). We had 3 three and outs vs NYG. Which is the same amount the NYG had and the same amount Tampa had in week one.

 

[dbair1967]

i have now seen the light and the 3 straight passes from our own endzone at the end of the first half leading to a turnover and the 1st down pick in the 2nd half when we had the lead, our QB was struggling and we where running for 9YPC where all brilliant calls

You realize they came back after the pick and with less time, stayed aggressive and drove down the field for a FG before halftime right?

The fact is the pass that was picked off Romo had no pressure on him and Witten was wide open for an easy first down on a safe, short throw. Romo threw the ball behind him and it was picked. That was not bad play calling.

 

[yimyammer]

It's pretty well known back then.

Jerry kept Troy, probably in large part for what they were paying him. Jimmy brought in Walsh, then Beuerlein. Jimmy back then didn't understand what rebuilding meant. We only went 7-5 in '91 with Aikman and went 4-0 with Beuerlein. Jimmy wanted Beuerlein, but Jerry and Norv told him that Troy was the guy.




YAKUZA

Meh, I'm not willing to give Jerry credit for forcing Jimmy to keep Troy until I see more evidence, surely something like this can be substantiated by several sources.

 

[yimyammer]

And like I said above in this thread, this isnt true. There was no cap then, they could have cut or traded Aikman had they wanted with no negative impact.

The fact is when Aikman got hurt in 89, Walsh started some games and as soon as Aikman was healthy, he was back as the starter. The next season Walsh was traded to the Saints.

They went and got Buerlien as a backup to Aikman in response to Laufenberg's disastrous finish to the 1990 season, which cost the Cowboys a playoff spot. Jimmy swore he'd never go without a proven backup again after that happened.

Immediately after the playoff loss in 1991 to Detroit, Johnson publicly stated there was no QB controversy or competition for the following season.

That's the way I remember it, any sources or links to substantiate this?

 

[cowboyjoe]

Jimmy Johnson advice for Jason Garrett about Tony Romo: KISS
1:51 PM Sun, Sep 27, 2009 | Permalink
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KISS as in "Keep It Simple Sir: JJ said this on the Fox pre-game today:

"The big knock on Tony Romo is that he plays great against teams he should beat but plays tight in big games. This is not about talent, this is about confidence. How do you create confidence? You have to have him so well prepared in those big games that he knows that he will make the play. Also, simplify the game plan to where you don't put it on his back. The bigger the game, the simpler the plan."

 

[Bach]

Free-agency destroyed the Cowboys dynasty...

Jerry Jones did.

Barry Switzer
Chan Gailey
Dave Campo

Carver, Pittman, Hannah, Watkins, Williams, etc.. etc..etc.

Jerry was like a one man wrecking crew.

 

[dbair1967]

That's the way I remember it, any sources or links to substantiate this?

There's some good stuff in Jimmy's book, turning the thing around.

 

[dbair1967]

Jerry Jones did.

Barry Switzer
Chan Gailey
Dave Campo

Carver, Pittman, Hannah, Watkins, Williams, etc.. etc..etc.

Jerry was like a one man wrecking crew.

Yeah, I'm sure losing the amount of solid players the Cowboys did over the first 4-5 yrs of free agency had nothing to do with it at all right?

Do I really need to post ALL of the losses we had?

 

[dbair1967]

Jerry Jones did.

Barry Switzer
Chan Gailey
Dave Campo

Carver, Pittman, Hannah, Watkins, Williams, etc.. etc..etc.

Jerry was like a one man wrecking crew.

Ah forget it, I'll list some of them anyway:

Ken Norton, Jim Jeffcoat, James Washington, John Gesek, Steve Buerlien, Alvin Harper, Thomas Everett, Russell Maryland, Larry Brown, Kevin Williams, Kenny Gant, Darrin Smith...need I go on?

 

[Cochese]

From another Cowboys forum:




Jimmy is reading our posts!! That's exactly what many have been saying for two years now. Pull back the reigns on Romo, limit his passing so he doesn't blow the game. Run the ball more,..ie keep it simple...

We have arguably the best Trio of backs in the league but we pass 65-75% of the time. I don't care if you have a more mature QB back there like Payton Manning, you're gonna have turnovers.

Nope. The opposite is the exact same play calling that has been killing us for 2 years now. Romo can't be trusted in big games. We can dominate the clock by running the ball, then when other teams stack the box you hit em deep, but not before. We have it backwards. Right now teams are committed to stopping our passing game and we are only dominating the weaker teams.

We need to establish a run game for these reasons:

1) Time of Possession = Rested & Better D.
2) Limit Romo's mistakes.
3) Keep opposing teams offense off the field.

If we can sustain longer drives we can beat stronger teams. If we get in a shootout (Like last week) against stronger opponents, Romo's chances of blowing the game increase.

December Tony has proven time and time again that he can't win the game in the air, now he's showing up early and you we wanna continue to put the game in his hands?????

Its truly amazing that someone had to point this out to mister ivy league.

 

[Apollo Creed]

I always loved that in the midst of consistently dominating for three years Jimmah alawys made his players feel like their jobs were on the line. Granted he was often posturing and singled out JAGS, the players always seemed to respond. I'm not saying profanity laced tireds always equate to success but when you look back he was a master psychologist. He knew how to prod players and get the very best out of them. Didn't mean to get nostalgic, just miss what it was like to have a head football coach.

 

[Bach]

Yeah, I'm sure losing the amount of solid players the Cowboys did over the first 4-5 yrs of free agency had nothing to do with it at all right?

Do I really need to post ALL of the losses we had?

Everyone had FA losses. Never said it didn't contribute. But the primary factor in our decline is Jerry Jones and his ego and mismanagement.

 

[aikemirv]

I disagree with Jimmy. I don't think it is about making it simpler for Romo. Romo can handle the complexities of it. I do believe Romo has a tough time when we become a running team like the other night. Romo is at his best when we are throwing the ball and mixing in the run.

IMO, if Romo needs to work on something it would be managing the game when we are running the ball real well and just extending drives to complement the run. He needs to somehow find a rythm in that situation.