JJT: Fans want the truth about the Cowboys - and they're going to keep getting it

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Boyzmamacita;3016111 said:
Be not deceived.
I'm not saying he's a football genius, but a lot of Dallas fans see things as more positive than they are, and it's nice to see someone who's not a fan of the team writing articles.
 

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Boyzmamacita;3016111 said:
Be not deceived.

By playing better of course he means winning a super bowl because we all know 13-3 and a first round playoff loss isn't the formula for shutting any of the Haters up.

So 1 team a year can get positive press and everyone else has to suck....

JJT is Ricky Bobby "If you ain't first, you're last!!!!"

Skyline High should be ashamed!
 

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Anyone have a link to the Romo piece he's talking about?
 

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Boyzmamacita;3016053 said:
Amazing that he talks about facts while admitting it's all his opinion.
13-12 is a fact, not an opinion.

Which validates an opinion of this team as mediocre, which perturbs the fanboys (and girls) that rip JJT the most.

Given their position as the NFL's flagship franchise with its megabucks owner, JJT's opinion is generally right. However poorly he may express it, at times.
 

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Two weeks ago after I wrote a piece on Tony Romo, I had an animated 30-minute discussion with Jay Ratliff, Jason Hatcher, Andre Gurode, Roy Williams, Martellus Bennett and Stephen Bowen about the column.

At one point, voices were raised. None of us, though, ever crossed the line.

Translation: Two weeks ago, I did a hatchet job on Tony Romo and for 30 minutes, six Cowboys players threatened to wipe the floor with my ***.
 

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jterrell;3016116 said:
By playing better of course he means winning a super bowl because we all know 13-3 and a first round playoff loss isn't the formula for shutting any of the Haters up.

So 1 team a year can get positive press and everyone else has to suck....

JJT is Ricky Bobby "If you ain't first, you're last!!!!"

Skyline High should be ashamed!
Were you satisfied with 13-3 and a playoff loss? I wasn't. But then again after that season many people picked the Cowboys to win the Super Bowl, so they were getting positive press. They just imploded at the end of the year, and that is why they are getting negative press this year. That and their erratic play.
 

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Huh. Terminator 2 is playing on my TV screen as I read this. Really.

... and I think JJT has come from the future to save us.
 

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Cover 2;3016112 said:
No, because Belichick and the Pats are constantly upper-echelon teams. We aren't. Also, if we hadn't been making as many mistakes there wouldn't be as many negative articles about us. We didn't just lose. It was undisciplined football that cost us games.

The Jets are 3-2 with a rookie QB, I don't know much about the Ravens, the Pats are perennial contenders, so if they have an off season they will get somewhat of a pass, and the 49ers are overachieving why would they get blasted for that? When the Cowboys at Quinthy at QB it was a miracle they went 10-6, which was better than the Cowboys did last year with a much better teams.

The Cowboys are the only team in this post that is underachieving. If they had been playing disciplined football they would be undefeated by now. But they haven't been doing that, so they deserve all the scorn they get from the media.
rofl!

The arguments you make are all over the place.
Try consistency.

Baltimore and the Pats have HIGHER expectations than Dallas. Both are/were expected to make deep playoff runs. The Pats have a Hall of Fame coach and QB. But they get a pass because of past success....

The Jets started out well with that rookie QB but now have lost to some bad/mediocre teams, certainly lesser teams than Dallas lost to. But again they get a pass....

Hilarious that everyone else gets a pass but Dallas who has only lost to most of the country's current Super Bowl at home in a last second drive and against another undefeated team on the road in the thin air.

Bottom line is most teams ebb and flow. Most media members understand this and do not all meth-head over every failing.

Bottom line is there is a huge middle area where Dallas has resided for a while between elite and awful that hardly calls for weekly negative articles. The Giants absolutely feel apart on offense last year sans Plaxico. Where were all the NY calls for Eli to get benched?? SB Champs to zero playoff wins the next year and a finish to the season that even worse than Dallas including losing to Dallas.
 

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So I make my opinion strong. It's blunt. It's in-your-face. If that rubs some of you the wrong way, then I'm sorry but it's not changing.

This sums up the problem right here. If you come off like a D-Bag in your articles, then you shouldn't get upset when people call you a D-Bag. Sorry JJT, I really used to like your stuff before you turned arrogant in your writing.
 

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Reality;3016013 said:
You know, he could have simply said, "I write what I want and how I want. If you don't like it, don't read it." and saved us all several minutes of time.

EDIT: And I don't hate JJT like many fans do, but I will admit that him having the need to justify his articles with a very long article in itself is a reflection of the attitude that many fans and players have toward him.

-Reality
I did that for myself and didn't read.
 

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Double Trouble;3016120 said:
13-12 is a fact, not an opinion.

Which validates an opinion of this team as mediocre, which perturbs the fanboys (and girls) that rip JJT the most.

Given their position as the NFL's flagship franchise with its megabucks owner, JJT's opinion is generally right. However poorly he may express it, at times.

rofl!

13-12 is a made up nonsensical stat beginning when it made the record look the worst. The fact is Wade's record as head coach here is 25-13 with an 0-1 playoff record included. Or he can be measured as being 2 games over .500 since 2008 began. you don't pick and choose to add in losses when Dallas WAS SITTING OUT PLAYERS and calling vanilla plays because they had the playoffs locked up.

The fact anyone talks about 13-12 at all shows how weak-minded and easily mislead people are. Also how little they actually think about what the media says.
 

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jterrell;3016134 said:
rofl!

The arguments you make are all over the place.
Try consistency.

Baltimore and the Pats have HIGHER expectations than Dallas. Both are/were expected to make deep playoff runs. The Pats have a Hall of Fame coach and QB. But they get a pass because of past success....

The Jets started out well with that rookie QB but now have lost to some bad/mediocre teams, certainly lesser teams than Dallas lost to. But again they get a pass....

Hilarious that everyone else gets a pass but Dallas who has only lost to most of the country's current Super Bowl at home in a last second drive and against another undefeated team on the road in the thin air.

Bottom line is most teams ebb and flow. Most media members understand this and do not all meth-head over every failing.

Bottom line is there is a huge middle area where Dallas has resided for a while between elite and awful that hardly calls for weekly negative articles. The Giants absolutely feel apart on offense last year sans Plaxico. Where were all the NY calls for Eli to get benched?? SB Champs to zero playoff wins the next year and a finish to the season that even worse than Dallas including losing to Dallas.
We're underachieving just like we always do. What's so hard to understand about that? We have more talent than the Giants, yet we perform worse than them. That's where the criticism comes in. And Eli is their franchise quarterback so it would be stupid to bench him, just like it would be stupid for us to bench Romo. Also I doubt any intelligent or emotionally stable fans were clamoring for us to bench Romo.
 

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theogt;3016041 said:
LOL @ the implication that the "the truth" is his opinion.

I wonder if JJT understands he just told us that his interpretation of the facts is the truth? The sad thing is I think he does know he wrote that.

What I want to know, and have been wondering this for years, is how does a sports journalist become an expert in sports? Does J-school cover the intricacies of man vs zone defense?

How does a journalist know so much about the details of sports that they can call out players and coaches on things unless they have a expert understanding that only experience from playing or coaching at this level could give you?

Report the facts JJT, let guys like Ditka and Irvin interperet.
 

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Cover 2;3016149 said:
We're underachieving just like we always do. What's so hard to understand about that? We have more talent than the Giants, yet we perform worse than them. That's where the criticism comes in. And Eli is their franchise quarterback so it would be stupid to bench him, just like it would be stupid for us to bench Romo. Also I doubt any intelligent or emotionally stable fans were clamoring for us to bench Romo.

That's absolutely comical.

First JJT was part of that clamoring. Did you read his Romo article???
So is he "beacon of truth" or emotionally unstable??. you tell me.

We are not more talented than the Giants who have large advantages in talent at certain positions. They are far stronger along the DL and Cory Webster is light years ahead of our best CB.

All your post proves is because unrealistic goals are attached to the team it is then OK to blast them when they play at a realistic level. Good game there.

What exactly did you predict the team's record to be for this year?

I love how guys predict 9-7 and then complain every week as they go 9-7 and say they underachieved....

JJT is a lazy buffoon who takes the easy way out to get his name mentioned. He does 80% of his job from the cell phone and even when he attended Cowboy practices as a beat Writer ignored the practice waiting around to grab some quotes while ordinary fans offered up play by play.

I am of a similar age to JJT, went to school in Oak Cliff, and new a number of people at Skyline. I'd love to support JJT but he is a talentless hack of the worst order. I don't expect all roses and sunshine and writers like Bob Sturm or Albert Breer proved NON-COWBOY fans make very good Cowboy writers.

In case you haven't hear Breer was just hired by the Boston Globe! Guess they beat us in covering their football team too.
 

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jterrell;3016170 said:
That's absolutely comical.

First JJT was part of that clamoring. Did you read his Romo article???
So is he "beacon of truth" or emotionally unstable??. you tell me.

We are not more talented than the Giants who have large advantages in talent at certain positions. They are far stronger along the DL and Cory Webster is light years ahead of our best CB.

All your post proves is because unrealistic goals are attached to the team it is then OK to blast them when they play at a realistic level. Good game there.

What exactly did you predict the team's record to be for this year?

I love how guys predict 9-7 and then complain every week as they go 9-7 and say they underachieved....

JJT is a lazy buffoon who takes the easy way out to get his name mentioned. He does 80% of his job from the cell phone and even when he attended Cowboy practices as a beat Writer ignored the practice waiting around to grab some quotes while ordinary fans offered up play by play.

I am of a similar age to JJT, went to school in Oak Cliff, and new a number of people at Skyline. I'd love to support JJT but he is a talentless hack of the worst order. I don't expect all roses and sunshine and writers like Bob Sturm or Albert Breer proved NON-COWBOY fans make very good Cowboy writers.

In case you haven't hear Breer was just hired by the Boston Globe! Guess they beat us in covering their football team too.
I predicted 10-6 or 11-5 with a playoff win.

And I never said he was a beacon of truth, I said it was nice not having someone who's a fan of the team writing articles. Also, I rarely read anyone's articles except for Breer and MacMahon (who I find hilarious), so I didn't read his Romo article.

And I think we are more physically talented than the Giants, which is why we usually own them when we play them, and why we only lost by 2 points even after turning the ball over 4 times. The Giants are must more mentally focused.
 

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jterrell;3016147 said:
rofl!

13-12 is a made up nonsensical stat beginning when it made the record look the worst. The fact is Wade's record as head coach here is 25-13 with an 0-1 playoff record included. Or he can be measured as being 2 games over .500 since 2008 began. you don't pick and choose to add in losses when Dallas WAS SITTING OUT PLAYERS and calling vanilla plays because they had the playoffs locked up.

The fact anyone talks about 13-12 at all shows how weak-minded and easily mislead people are. Also how little they actually think about what the media says.
So 2007 was the real team? Not 2006? Or 2009? Or 2008?

13-12 isn't made up, nor nonsensical. It's a pretty clear line of demarcation of when Wade Phillips and this group of players reverted to their historical form. To my knowledge, there was one such throw-out game, the one against Washington, where it should be noted most of the starters played until the game was out of hand, and proceeded to thoroughly embarrass themselves. That record also includes a win over a Matt Moore-led Panther team that had already signed out for the season, but I don't see anyone subtracting that win. And two weeks after the Commander game, the collapse was complete.

Another number is 2. That's the number of games the unbelievably bad Chiefs have won over the course of nearly 2 seasons. Perhaps we should start subtracting other such games out of the 13 wins.

This has been a 9-7 team for 3 out of 4 years, and is headed that way again. The 12-1 run in 2007 was a complete aberration. If the last season and a half hasn't shown you that, then it's only because you willfully refuse to see it. But for some people, I guess it's easier to labor under the delusion that this is a good team on a run of rotten luck, rather than a team with major problems that a hack like Jerry Jones and mediocre coach like Wade Phillips will never be able to sort through.
 

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jterrell;3016147 said:
rofl!

13-12 is a made up nonsensical stat beginning when it made the record look the worst. The fact is Wade's record as head coach here is 25-13 with an 0-1 playoff record included. Or he can be measured as being 2 games over .500 since 2008 began. you don't pick and choose to add in losses when Dallas WAS SITTING OUT PLAYERS and calling vanilla plays because they had the playoffs locked up.

The fact anyone talks about 13-12 at all shows how weak-minded and easily mislead people are. Also how little they actually think about what the media says.

The problem I have with many writings, be they JJT's, some other professional, or posts on this site, is that too often the writings are proclamations, as if undeniably true and with no other view points having any legitimacy. Counterpoints are too often met not with, "fair point" but rather an all-out defense of why the original point is infallible.

I'm going to give you a case in point here JT but let me preface it by saying you are a poster I always read. You're among the best here IMO.

That said, 13-12 is not a "made up non-sensical stat" and I bet you'll agree with me on this. It IS relevant that our 13-3 record slipped to 9-7 last year. I think what is even MORE relevant is that we are 3-2 so far this year.

2007 said our arrow was pointed up. 2008 said it was pointing down. Wade & company are trying to get the arrow back up in 2009 with mixed results thus far.

The point about 13-12 is that this team hasn't produced like a 2007 #1 seed for some time now. We fans are hoping to get back to 13-3 (or that neighborhood) and be contenders once more. 13-12 says we are not there right now. Call it 12-10 if you wish to discount late 2007 regular season games. The point is just as valid. Its not definitive. Its just where we've been most recently and where we are right now.
 

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Boyzmamacita;3016122 said:
Translation: Two weeks ago, I did a hatchet job on Tony Romo and for 30 minutes, six Cowboys players threatened to wipe the floor with my ***.
I doubt seriously that they threatened to do any such thing. Unless you believe that several of our players are ******** thugs.
 

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Cover 2;3016177 said:
I predicted 10-6 or 11-5 with a playoff win.

And I never said he was a beacon of truth, I said it was nice not having someone who's a fan of the team writing articles. Also, I rarely read anyone's articles except for Breer and MacMahon (who I find hilarious), so I didn't read his Romo article.

And I think we are more physically talented than the Giants, which is why we usually own them when we play them, and why we only lost by 2 points even after turning the ball over 4 times. The Giants are must more mentally focused.
we are NOT more talented than the Giants. First of all..they have a Super Bowl winning head coach..and a head coach who did good things at other stops prior to New York. Their offensive coordinator and QB have been together how long? They are better in the trenches, where games are one and lost. Our WR corps are not even close from a draft pedigree perspective. Nicks, 1st round. Smith, Manningham, Moss 2nd round. While we have Roy Williams and a cast of converted QBs, 7th rounders or just plain undrafted. Their secondary before Phillips was hurt is ALSO better than ours. They won a Super Bowl a couple of years ago for a reason. They won 12 - 13 games last year for a reason. They are 5-0 for a reason. So do I think we can beat them? Yes! Should I EXPECT to beat them? No! Why should I? Because you or the Dallas media CLAIM we are more talented?
 

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A decent article, in my opinion.

I don't always agree with JJT, but he's correct in that journalists are confronted with a myriad of facts on a daily basis. Their job is sorting through those facts, determining which ones are the most relevant, and then presenting them in a clear and concise narrative.

We only have a problem when journalists reach a conclusion before considering the facts and then fit the facts to that conclusion, or when journalists aren't open to different interpretations of those facts. JJT is not guilty of this, in my opinion.
 
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