JJT On Sporting News Radio Today Said It Will Be Norv...

[BrAinPaiNt]

I don't think you should have to "mold" the DC Brain. That person should be ready to go with their own ideas from the get-go. What the HC needs to do is be able to support them, which is distinctly opposite of how Parcells did it.

Jimmy let his coordinators do what they were capable of without holding them back-- Parcells couldn't do that. And I think that's partly why we never won a playoff game while he was here.

Then you are hoping and praying that Todd B is already an agressive DC...because really that is more than likely what will happen at DC if Norv is your choice for HC.

Also by your own standards, what would be the use of bringing in Norv...I mean the main idea seems to be so he can tutor/groom Garrett.

 

[Juke99]

Juke,
I would feel better about Norv if Wade was at least the DC, because he is very good at that job. But I've read nothing to make me believe he would leave the Chargers, or the Chargers would even allow him to leave, for a DC job in Dallas. That isn't happening.

I'm not suggesting it is happening...I used his name as an example.

the point I am trying to make is, this isn't a comparison of Parcells vs Turner.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I mean look at what Pittsburgh did?

Did they hire a skilled "3-4" guy?

No, they hired a guy that had spent years working with a "4-3, Cover-2" defense.

The head coach should be an administrator first and foremost.

X's & O's?

That's what the coordinators are for.

Pittsburg had LeBeau...why would they need a HC for the Defense or to tutor the DC?

Bad example.

 

[Juke99]

On the "nosey" as someone would say.

Actually, when making the statement about me, it's "On the nosey, again"

 

[big dog cowboy]

Dale let me explain to you "why" the 2007 team will garner a better record than 2006... really no matter who the next head coach is (barring a rash of cataclysmic injuries of course).

Bill James (the baseball stat freak) had a very interesting "law" which he was able to prove mathematically... this law took the runs scored/runs given up by a particular team and was able to estimate its w/l record accurately. For example if a time scored 700 runs and gave up 700 runs it should have a .500 record. Makes sense right?

Well what James found is that teams that had a better w/l record than what James estimated usually performed below their expected level the following season. Consequently the reverse was also true... teams that compiled a worse record then what James estimated would usually perform better next year.

Well football doesn't allow the same flexibility with numbers BUT I don't think you could find a single soul that would say this team (especially defense) didn't underform in 2006 compared to their overall talent level.

That being the case I don't think it's a reach to think the 2007 squad will outperform the 2006...

Regardless of who the head coach will be.

Zero Bud Lights so far today and I still can't make sense of this.

 

[Concord]

Just ****ing shoot me now.

superpunk....:shoot1:

 

[theebs]

I don't care how good they were.

If you hook up a race horse to a plow, you have a plow horse.

whatever

think what you want.

If jerry jones hires norv turner as the head coach of this team at this critical stage, then he is a certain part of a horse and us fans are going to get plowed in that same spot.

 

[DipChit]

I disagee on that post because quite frankly we don't know.

Circumstances are always changing... see "Mumbles" in New England. I guarantee you that after his time in Cleveland there wasn't a fan on the planet that considered him to be head coaching material.

But even if that was questionable.. didnt he have some proven coaches go with him to NE?

Im just saying that even if we agree that the BP thing was a "failure" it still a more respectable staff with him and Zim as DC if you were to ask around the league... compared to Wade/Norv as HC... JG as OC (even with Sparano) and a guy like Bowles as a DC.

That would be one of the weakest front lines going as it pertains to guys being proven "winners" in their respective slots.

But could we win regardless? Sure why not.. all kinds of strange crap happens in the NFL anymore.

 

[Bleu Star]

I'm not suggesting it is happening...I used his name as an example.

the point I am trying to make is, this isn't a comparison of Parcells vs Turner.

Right. It's really a comparison of one mind stretching himself too thin (Parcells) vs. Garrett, (HC to be named), and (DC to be named).

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Then you are hoping and praying that Todd B is already an agressive DC...because really that is more than likely what will happen at DC if Norv is your choice for HC.

Also by your own standards, what would be the use of bringing in Norv...I mean the main idea seems to be so he can tutor/groom Garrett.

I have to trust the brain-trust of the Cowboys at some point to determine if Bowles (or whomever the DC is) is capable of running this defense.

There is a difference between "tutoring", "grooming" and virtually calling all the plays for him.

And who knows if the "tutoring" and "grooming" statement didn't apply to head-coaching?

 

[Juke99]

whatever

think what you want.

If jerry jones hires norv turner as the head coach of this team at this critical stage, then he is a certain part of a horse and us fans are going to get plowed in that same spot.

Thank you for giving me permission to do this.

 

[theebs]

Head coaches typically do not get involved in "X's & O's".

Get some popcorn... this is a double feature much to your chagrin.

Yeah thats it, cause andy reid, mike holmgren, brian billick, scott linehan, jon gruden, bill belichick and eric mangini would never have an influence on x's and o's

Try again.

those guys are deeply involved in x's and o's...some just offense some just defense, but they are very involved.


and if they are not then mike holmgren and bill bellichik deserve none of the credit for their super bowls.

 

[Juke99]

Right. It's really a comparison of one mind stretching himself too thin (Parcells) vs. Garrett, (HC to be named), and (DC to be named).

At the risk of being predictable...."On the nosey"

 

[Da Hammer]

Dark times for the Cowboys and their fans will continue for years to come if we hire Turner...

 

[MichaelWinicki]

But even if that was questionable.. didnt he have some proven coaches go with him to NE?

Im just saying that even if we agree that the BP thing was a "failure" it still a more respectable staff with him and Zim as DC if you were to ask around the league... compared to Wade/Norv as HC... JG as OC (even with Sparano) and a guy like Bowles as a DC.

That would be one of the weakest front lines going as it pertains to guys being proven "winners" in their respective slots.

But could we win regardless? Sure why not.. all kinds of strange crap happens in the NFL anymore.

Sometimes you just have to grow you staff from within... you just can't always "take" from other teams.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Head coaches typically do not get involved in "X's & O's".

are you serious?

 

[superpunk]

I love how we operate under the assumption that Parcells micromanaged, and stifled everyone, with a total lack of evidence or support for such a stance.

But hey, whatever makes Parcells leaving and Norval signing on seem like a good idea is ok by me. It's just that I could get drunk and come up with some great ideas about Parcells that would have similar validity - facts be damned.

Norv's gonna be a great HC because he's not going to be a control freak like Parcells.

Yeah....that's the ticket.

 

[5Stars]

I have to trust the brain-trust of the Cowboys....

That's exactely what I'm worried about!


(that and that damn brat T.O.)

 

[Rockytop6]

Cowboys fans react:

JJ just made the announcement and these are the reactions. I love it.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Yeah thats it, cause andy reid, mike holmgren, brian billick, scott linehan, jon gruden, bill belichick and eric mangini would never have an influence on x's and o's

Try again.

those guys are deeply involved in x's and o's...some just offense some just defense, but they are very involved.


and if they are not then mike holmgren and bill bellichik deserve none of the credit for their super bowls.

There is a difference between "influencing" and "dominating".