John Clayton on EE suspension

[CWR]

Remind me to never go to battle with you guys....you tuck tail and surrender faster than the French

You guys are HOPING Zeke gets punished and that is disturbing

Lol agreed. Never more evident than in game threads haha.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Even if Mara isn't somehow involved this...screw him and the Giants

If he isn't involved in this, it sounds like something he would do. lol

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

As for what he did at the parade it was childish and stupid. He shouldn't have done it. He should know that every Cowboy is under a microscope.That's a long way from assault though.

 

[phildadon86]

The Zeke bashing by our own fans is hilarious to me. You guys need your heads examined.

 

[Trouty]

The Zeke bashing by our own fans is hilarious to me. You guys need your heads examined.

Seriously, Phil.

 

[aria]

If he isn't involved in this, it sounds like something he would do. lol

Lol, I guess I could go with that.

 

[aria]

The Zeke bashing by our own fans is hilarious to me. You guys need your heads examined.

How is it bashing because we're concerned about him and the welfare of the team? Some people on here remind me of parents whose kids can do no wrong. Do you not agree that the NFL can discipline players on a whim? Do you not agree that Zeke is already on their radar and has made some stupid decisions that could get him punished? Put your personal feelings aside. I couldn't care less that he pulled down his lady friends shirt in public on a personal level but I do care from a Cowboys fan level. The dunce puts a target on his back every few months.

 

[Nightman]

How is it bashing because we're concerned about him and the welfare of the team? Some people on here remind me of parents whose kids can do no wrong. Do you not agree that the NFL can discipline players on a whim? Do you not agree that Zeke is already on their radar and has made some stupid decisions that could get him punished? Put your personal feelings aside. I couldn't care less that he pulled down his lady friends shirt in public on a personal level but I do care from a Cowboys fan level. The dunce puts a target on his back every few months.

In my family you stay unified in public and no one ever goes against the family..... every attack is immediately met with a strong, unified front...... you can slap some sense into your brother in private, but it stays private

But that doesn't even apply here.....I haven't seen Zeke do one thing worthy of the attention it has received..... get off your high horses and soap boxes and worry about your own morality and maturity

 

[phildadon86]

How is it bashing because we're concerned about him and the welfare of the team? Some people on here remind me of parents whose kids can do no wrong. Do you not agree that the NFL can discipline players on a whim? Do you not agree that Zeke is already on their radar and has made some stupid decisions that could get him punished? Put your personal feelings aside. I couldn't care less that he pulled down his lady friends shirt in public on a personal level but I do care from a Cowboys fan level. The dunce puts a target on his back every few months.

My personal feelings? My personal feelings are that its none of our damn business what these guys do in the off-season. They arent being paid. They play a sport where every snap can be there last, the kid is 21. Let him live his life. He hasn't done a damn thing work the media attention its receiving but because he plays for the Cowboys its news. Calling him a dunce is a personal attack against his character. You're sitting there telling me to leave the personal out of it. Take your own advice. What situation did he put himself into? He dated a crazy woman? Think we have all been there. He got a little intoxicated and pulled a girls shirt down and then hung out with her after and is friends with her? Oh yeah, crucify him. Run him out of town.

 

[aria]

In my family you stay unified in public and no one ever goes against the family..... every attack is immediately met with a strong, unified front...... you can slap some sense into your brother in private, but it stays private

But that doesn't even apply here.....I haven't seen Zeke do one thing worthy of the attention it has received..... get off your high horses and soap boxes and worry about your own morality and maturity

Ok, well this isn't family, you don't know him neither do I. He's a professional athlete that plays a game for a living, he's an investment. This isn't the mob Marlon so stop acting like he's "family".

 

[aria]

My personal feelings? My personal feelings are that its none of our damn business what these guys do in the off-season. They arent being paid. They play a sport where every snap can be there last, the kid is 21. Let him live his life. He hasn't done a damn thing work the media attention its receiving but because he plays for the Cowboys its news. Calling him a dunce is a personal attack against his character. You're sitting there telling me to leave the personal out of it. Take your own advice. What situation did he put himself into? He dated a crazy woman? Think we have all been there. He got a little intoxicated and pulled a girls shirt down and then hung out with her after and is friends with her? Oh yeah, crucify him. Run him out of town.

I'm not the one crucifying him, I'm CONCERNED that the NFL will. Whether you guys agree or disagree, everything these guys do on and off the field, during the season and not during the season can effect the team. When their actions effect, or can possibly effect, the team it becomes the teams business and causes concern for some fans. You think Jerry hired personal baby sitters for Dez on and off the field because he thought it would be cute? Or did he do it to protect his investment and the team as a whole because off the field issues do matter in the NFL?

It doesn't matter what you or I did. Comparing us (average joe) to a highly recognizable professional athlete who is held to a certain standard by his employer (NFL) is comparing apples and oranges. I was arrested for public misrepresentation of self, public misconduct (fighting), public intoxication, etc when I was slightly younger than Zeke. I would have probably been suspended for a season but IF I was in the cat bird seat to make millions of dollars and IF I was a high profile athlete I can promise you I wouldn't have put myself in those situations. Less than a year later, due to my job, common sense took over and I completely changed my ways. He needs to recognize his status/position and grow up quick.

The fact that some of you can say "so what, no one cares, we've all done that" then turn around and whine about the NFL possibly suspending Zeke are talking out of both sides of your mouth. Obviously someone does care and it's the NFL which is why some of us fans care as well.

Edit: If you consider me calling him a "dunce" crucifying him then I'm guilty until he proves me wrong. Also, for the record, I think Zeke is a genuinely good and decent guy, he just needs to be smarter about what he does.

 

[AbeBeta]

As for what he did at the parade it was childish and stupid. He shouldn't have done it. He should know that every Cowboy is under a microscope.That's a long way from assault though.

Actually, any act involving someone's special places without consent, is technically assault

 

[NorthwestDallas40]

I'm not the one crucifying him, I'm CONCERNED that the NFL will. Whether you guys agree or disagree, everything these guys do on and off the field, during the season and not during the season can effect the team. When their actions effect, or can possibly effect, the team it becomes the teams business and causes concern for some fans. You think Jerry hired personal baby sitters for Dez on and off the field because he thought it would be cute? Or did he do it to protect his investment and the team as a whole because off the field issues do matter in the NFL?

It doesn't matter what you or I did. Comparing us (average joe) to a highly recognizable professional athlete who is held to a certain standard by his employer (NFL) is comparing apples and oranges. I was arrested for public misrepresentation of self, public misconduct (fighting), public intoxication, etc when I was slightly younger than Zeke. I would have probably been suspended for a season but IF I was in the cat bird seat to make millions of dollars and IF I was a high profile athlete I can promise you I wouldn't have put myself in those situations. Less than a year later, due to my job, common sense took over and I completely changed my ways. He needs to recognize his status/position and grow up quick.

The fact that some of you can say "so what, no one cares, we've all done that" then turn around and whine about the NFL possibly suspending Zeke are talking out of both sides of your mouth. Obviously someone does care and it's the NFL which is why some of us fans care as well.

Edit: If you conisder me calling him a "dunce" crucifying him then I'm guilty until he proves me wrong. Also, for the record, I think Zeke is a genuinely good and decent guy, he just needs to be smarter about what he does.

Well said

 

[LittleD]

My personal feelings? My personal feelings are that its none of our damn business what these guys do in the off-season. They arent being paid. They play a sport where every snap can be there last, the kid is 21. Let him live his life. He hasn't done a damn thing work the media attention its receiving but because he plays for the Cowboys its news. Calling him a dunce is a personal attack against his character. You're sitting there telling me to leave the personal out of it. Take your own advice. What situation did he put himself into? He dated a crazy woman? Think we have all been there. He got a little intoxicated and pulled a girls shirt down and then hung out with her after and is friends with her? Oh yeah, crucify him. Run him out of town.

Sorry fellow, you just don't understand workplace rules. You can do anything you want in the public and on the internet it all could be legal but, the company can and does fire people for their actions. The NFL can look at this behavior as negative for it's image and suspend EE anytime they want for such behavior. If you put something about most anything on line and it reflects poorly on the company you work for, you can be fired on the spot. He's not a kid anymore and he just has to grow up and act like a responsible adult. That is if he wants to make those big bucks.

 

[phildadon86]

I'm not the one crucifying him, I'm CONCERNED that the NFL will. Whether you guys agree or disagree, everything these guys do on and off the field, during the season and not during the season can effect the team. When their actions effect, or can possibly effect, the team it becomes the teams business and causes concern for some fans. You think Jerry hired personal baby sitters for Dez on and off the field because he thought it would be cute? Or did he do it to protect his investment and the team as a whole because off the field issues do matter in the NFL?

It doesn't matter what you or I did. Comparing us (average joe) to a highly recognizable professional athlete who is held to a certain standard by his employer (NFL) is comparing apples and oranges. I was arrested for public misrepresentation of self, public misconduct (fighting), public intoxication, etc when I was slightly younger than Zeke. I would have probably been suspended for a season but IF I was in the cat bird seat to make millions of dollars and IF I was a high profile athlete I can promise you I wouldn't have put myself in those situations. Less than a year later, due to my job, common sense took over and I completely changed my ways. He needs to recognize his status/position and grow up quick.

The fact that some of you can say "so what, no one cares, we've all done that" then turn around and whine about the NFL possibly suspending Zeke are talking out of both sides of your mouth. Obviously someone does care and it's the NFL which is why some of us fans care as well.

Edit: If you consider me calling him a "dunce" crucifying him then I'm guilty until he proves me wrong. Also, for the record, I think Zeke is a genuinely good and decent guy, he just needs to be smarter about what he does.

While you make fair points and I agree to an extent. The NFL has to be very careful here. If they suspend him after a year, after there is proof he didnt do anything to his crazy ex. The NFLPA is going to be all over them. I know you like to say there isnt bias towards the Cowboys, and you may be right. However, do you not think it would have eliminated any chance at even the thought of bias if they say, I dont know. Didnt put a Giants season ticket holder in charge of his case? I mean really. Come on. That would be like you or I being tasked at investigating Eli.

 

[Sydla]

My personal feelings? My personal feelings are that its none of our damn business what these guys do in the off-season. They arent being paid. They play a sport where every snap can be there last, the kid is 21. Let him live his life. He hasn't done a damn thing work the media attention its receiving but because he plays for the Cowboys its news. Calling him a dunce is a personal attack against his character. You're sitting there telling me to leave the personal out of it. Take your own advice. What situation did he put himself into? He dated a crazy woman? Think we have all been there. He got a little intoxicated and pulled a girls shirt down and then hung out with her after and is friends with her? Oh yeah, crucify him. Run him out of town.

Here's the problem. With a NFL career, with NFL game canes more scrutiny and responsibility. So while it might be fun for you if you and your buddies pull a girl's shirt down, it's not the same for a NFL player.

That's the reality of being a NFL star. You don't like it? Then find another profession that takes you out of the limelight.

Friends or not, given what we know about the NFL and their trigger happiness and knowing what we know about the NFL having an open investigation into Elliott already, what he did was pretty stupid.

It just was. Doesn't mean I hate Elliott or want to stone him to death. But I also won't let Blie and silver goggles make me overlook the reality here. Elliott has to be much smarter going forward. That's the life of a NFL star.

 

[Bowdown27]

The Zeke bashing by our own fans is hilarious to me. You guys need your heads examined.

right

 

[Nightman]

Ok, well this isn't family, you don't know him neither do I. He's a professional athlete that plays a game for a living, he's an investment. This isn't the mob Marlon so stop acting like he's "family".

that is why you are out Fredo.......no loyalty

 

[aria]

While you make fair points and I agree to an extent. The NFL has to be very careful here. If they suspend him after a year, after there is proof he didnt do anything to his crazy ex. The NFLPA is going to be all over them. I know you like to say there isnt bias towards the Cowboys, and you may be right. However, do you not think it would have eliminated any chance at even the thought of bias if they say, I dont know. Didnt put a Giants season ticket holder in charge of his case? I mean really. Come on. That would be like you or I being tasked at investigating Eli.

I don't deny that at all but the best way to avoid it is to stay out of the spotlight by not committing questionable actions that the NFL can potentially suspend him for. I've said this before but personally, based on what we know, I don't think he is guilty of any domestic violence. If the NFL comes out with new information I could change my opinion but the fact is they are looking at him, and he knows it, so he needs to be on his best behavior.

Again, I don't hate the guy, I think he's a great athlete and has a big heart but his decisions can piss me off, lol. I only care and get upset because I don't want to see him get in trouble and I don't want to see the Cowboys suffer/lose due to his absence. If I wasn't worried about the NFL "watching" him and if I didn't care whether he was suspended and if I didn't care whether we lost games due to his absence then I WOULDN'T CARE what he did. Clear as mud? I realize I look at things differently, a lot of people do, I'm just trying to explain why I'm pretty passionate about this subject in particular.

My job has pretty cut and dry rules, the NFL doesn't. I don't agree with a lot of their decisions but when there's a lot of grey area it shouldn't make the players more lax, it should be the opposite.

 

[LittleD]

While you make fair points and I agree to an extent. The NFL has to be very careful here. If they suspend him after a year, after there is proof he didnt do anything to his crazy ex. The NFLPA is going to be all over them. I know you like to say there isnt bias towards the Cowboys, and you may be right. However, do you not think it would have eliminated any chance at even the thought of bias if they say, I dont know. Didnt put a Giants season ticket holder in charge of his case? I mean really. Come on. That would be like you or I being tasked at investigating Eli.

I'm sorry but, the NFL does not have to be careful here. They have tons of lawyers to take this through the courts if necessary and once it get to the Supreme Court if it does, EE will be serving his suspension should one be issued by the Commissioner. The Supreme Court routinely sides with Business on workplace rules and the power granted to the league by the CBA. It's EE that needs to be humble and extremely careful about his actions.