Johnson....

[silverbear]

ok guys i wont say another negative word about peerless.



if he dont play football when hes in the game tho im gonna raise hell!

Hey, if he goes out there and plays hockey, you'll have a legit reason to gripe...

 

[silverbear]

we should trade morgan for a conditional 7th thats who we should trade

Wrong, we should trade Morgan for Jerome Woods... or trade him back to Cleveland for Crocker...

 

[Wolverine]

why dont we trade Key for a 3rd or 2nd (big wishes) draft pick? With Glenn, Patrick, Price we have 3 good receivers right there with **gasp** speed that the Key doesn't have, i know hes good for 3rd and short situations because hes like 6-5 and has decent hands but the other 3 have just as good if not better hands then he does....any body else think this?

Key is our only WR with size and strength. The rest of our WR are very finesse. Easier to knock off the line. When it comes to needing tuff yards on a pass Key is still a good WR.

Until we get a proven possession WR with size and strength we need to keep Keyshawn in Dallas.

 

[WoodysGirl]

No, I think his incentives are built on top of the two mil.

But remember, the guy was given just a one year contract and he was looking for a multi year one.

When you deny the player the more security he wanted (not that any contract is ever secure past the sb), you need to compensate with a bigger one year contract.

Price isn't in the most ideal of situations. Whatever those incentives are, they can't be too easy to reach considering the number of good wide outs here.

Parcells says he must define his own role - meaning whenever he is on the field, he has to impress enough to get more time on, and to earn another contract next season.

Everyone will get their share of the ball....Tuna' s good at keeping that promie..it's who does what with his share that keeps him on the field. And on the field in Dallas.

The ideal in the absence of a true #1 receiver, is to do it the New England way...a rotational system of your good #2's that means no one will be leading the league stats race...or racking up amazing fantasy football numbers....

but one of them might just end up the Super Bowl MVP.

Just to clarify, Latuna.

After a courtship that began Thursday night, Price agreed to a one-year deal with the Cowboys on Saturday that is worth $2 million and includes a $500,000 signing bonus. He also can earn more than $500,000 in incentives.



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Sounsd to me, he's got 1mil base. 500k SB, and can earn $500k in incentives

 

[LaTunaNostra]

Just to clarify, Latuna.

After a courtship that began Thursday night, Price agreed to a one-year deal with the Cowboys on Saturday that is worth $2 million and includes a $500,000 signing bonus. He also can earn more than $500,000 in incentives.



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Sounsd to me, he's got 1mil base. 500k SB, and can earn $500k in incentives

Thanks, WG.

I thought I saw an article maintaining the incentives were on top of the 2 mil.

:money:

 

[Rockytop6]

Key is worth more to us than he is to anybody else. We picked up Glenn for a 6th I believe. All of our top 4 have different skills and will fill different tasks on the field. I was not overly estatic about signing Price but I do think it is a good pickup and gives us more options and better balance. We are a better team with him on board. I don't know how any of these guys will work out in the future. I hope we use a high draft pick on a wr next year. In fact, I hope we draft, in no particular order, a QB, WR, OL, DL, FS and LB. Hopefully we resolve our problem at K in the next few days.

 

[mrecktid]

" Key probably stays - but if someone calls and offers a 2 - I'd trade him in a second. But he likely stays."



If you were a GM for another franchise, would YOU really offer a 2nd round pick for Keyshawn Johnson??????? It's common sense.

Why even consider trading him, Glenn will more than likely get injured for a bit, and having Price and Crayton as our #1 and #2 receivers is ludicrous. Preseason means nothing.

 

[Dallas4ever]

Wrong, we should trade Morgan for Jerome Woods... or trade him back to Cleveland for Crocker...

I like this scenario.

 

[smashmouth]

Hey guys, why are we trying to get rid of talent?

We've not done a thing yet to suggest that we need to get rid of a Talent like Key.

We had better start winning something before we get rid of anything that is good.

Now we have just made a nice acquisition to get stronger on offense, and people are whining about letting one of the offensive weapons go.

These guys feed off of each other’s strengths.

If Glenn is getting deep and Price is getting deep, that opens things up for Key. If Price is getting double-teamed and Key is getting shadowed, the price will be one-on-one.

If all three are being covered well and shadowed, then Witten will have a feast.

If all 4 are having success catching the ball, the JJ will run like a cheetah. So stop the non-sense of getting rid of one of the weapons on your team that will open up other areas.

 

[NovaCowboy]

He's our #1, i'd like to think our #1 reciever is worth more than a 3rd round draft pick

he's not.

nobody in their right mind would give better than a 4th for Keyshawn.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Hey guys, why are we trying to get rid of talent?

We've not done a thing yet to suggest that we need to get rid of a Talent like Key.

We had better start winning something before we get rid of anything that is good.

Now we have just made a nice acquisition to get stronger on offense, and people are whining about letting one of the offensive weapons go.

These guys feed off of each other’s strengths.

If Glenn is getting deep and Price is getting deep, that opens things up for Key. If Price is getting double-teamed and Key is getting shadowed, the price will be one-on-one.

If all three are being covered well and shadowed, then Witten will have a feast.

If all 4 are having success catching the ball, the JJ will run like a cheetah. So stop the non-sense of getting rid of one of the weapons on your team that will open up other areas.

Maybe it's the Parcells Guy syndrome. People like Price because he's not a so-called PG...former player for BP. The logic with that is that Peerless by virtue of Bledsoe is just as much a Parcell's Guy as anybody else.

Add to this, some people just don't like Keyshawn. Regardless of what he brings to the table. He's a proven-quality player, who still produces; whether he's the #1, 2, or 3. He produces. Can't say that about any draft pick he could be traded for or whatever street free-agent WR who's the flavor du jour.

 

[Cbz40]

Wrong, we should trade Morgan for Jerome Woods... or trade him back to Cleveland for Crocker...

Either one would work fine for me.......get it done

 

[Hoffa]

If we could get a good pick for Key we should trade him.

I'm tired of hearing about how he "goes over the middle and gets tough yards".

That's what a Tight End is for.

Key is probably slower than Witten at this point. Hell most Linebackers are faster than Key. If we can trade him we should.

 

[smashmouth]

If we could get a good pick for Key we should trade him.

I'm tired of hearing about how he "goes over the middle and gets tough yards".

That's what a Tight End is for.

Key is probably slower than Witten at this point. Hell most Linebackers are faster than Key. If we can trade him we should.

While we're at it, how about we trade JJones for something.

And then trade Bledsoe, LA, and RW for something.

Let's trade Ware and see if we can get our number 1 back.

BP is trying to create matchup problems on offense for defenses. And if you can't appreciate that, then we can go back to our same old boring offense that can't win games.

Most people want home-run hitters, and they forget about the base-hitters.

You can't just go out there and throw bombs all over the field (if that were true, then the Rams & Raiders would be super bowl champs every year)

You need guys to go in there and get dirty- guys that will make a tough first down, to give you that chance to throw the bomb. Key is that guy.

 

[HTownCowboysFan]

Hey guys, why are we trying to get rid of talent?

Why? Because there is never enough "let's trade" nonsense threads to be had here.

This is not fantasy football.

Someone here tell me how in the hell trading Key - and I'm no huge fan of his - makes this team better?

Ah, the way of message boards.

 

[HTownCowboysFan]

While we're at it, how about we trade JJones for something.

And then trade Bledsoe, LA, and RW for something.

Let's trade Ware and see if we can get our number 1 back.

BP is trying to create matchup problems on offense for defenses. And if you can't appreciate that, then we can go back to our same old boring offense that can't win games.

Most people want home-run hitters, and they forget about the base-hitters.

You can't just go out there and throw bombs all over the field (if that were true, then the Rams & Raiders would be super bowl champs every year)

You need guys to go in there and get dirty- guys that will make a tough first down, to give you that chance to throw the bomb. Key is that guy.

Here, here. I've been hanging out at various forms of this site for years, and I've yet to stop shaking my head with some of the "how about trading" nonsense that shows up.

And I don't mean that with any disrespect to those who originally post these scenarios - just THINK about what you are proposing beforehand.

 

[Hoffa]

While we're at it, how about we trade JJones for something.

And then trade Bledsoe, LA, and RW for something.

Let's trade Ware and see if we can get our number 1 back.

BP is trying to create matchup problems on offense for defenses. And if you can't appreciate that, then we can go back to our same old boring offense that can't win games.

Most people want home-run hitters, and they forget about the base-hitters.

You can't just go out there and throw bombs all over the field (if that were true, then the Rams & Raiders would be super bowl champs every year)

You need guys to go in there and get dirty- guys that will make a tough first down, to give you that chance to throw the bomb. Key is that guy.

What the hell are you babbling on about? Because someone wants to trade Keyshawn that means they want to trade the whole team?

I'm sorry but, Keyshawn Johnson does not create any match-up problems for a defense. The guy is a big, extremely slow WR who's only use at this point is going over the middle, which once again.. is what we have Jason Witten for.

Keyshawn isn't adding anything to this offense right now, he can't make a big play and the stuff he does underneath is not anything Jason Witten and Patrick Crayton can't do.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

Keyshawn isn't adding anything to this offense right now, he can't make a big play and the stuff he does underneath is not anything Jason Witten and Patrick Crayton can't do.

Did Key add anything to the offense last year?

We all know what he did last year, and it was considerable.

The question is has the offensive design changed so much that he is no longer an asset.

I saw no indication of that this summer.

 

[Hoffa]

I really don't think he did add anything to the offense last year. He put forth a nice season last year, but he didn't really play exceptionally well. He put up decent stats, mostly because with Terry Glenn hurt he was the main option in the passing game aside from Witten. I think Key is the only thing keeping this from being a fairly explosive offense.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

I really don't think he did add anything to the offense last year. He put forth a nice season last year, but he didn't really play exceptionally well. He put up decent stats, mostly because with Terry Glenn hurt he was the main option in the passing game aside from Witten. I think Key is the only thing keeping this from being a fairly explosive offense.

Well I won't argue with you your opinon on what Key brought to the O last year, tho my opinon is that he was an even guttier chain mover than I expected him to be, and had Terry stayed healthy, it's Key who would have opened up the game for him. Most of what a possession receiver does isn't glorious.

I think there is something else keeping the O from being explosive..something more integral than Keyshawn Johnson.

And that is Bill Parcells.

DCs will scheme Bledsoe as they always do, seek to take away the deep ball option and force him to go underneath. Whether he will or not, or will effectively, may well write the story. It's imperative there be more than just Witten to move the chains. Deep ball, run, and underneath game..all opening up each other as one is targeted.

Bill does not want Drew to have to do what VT had to last year.

And Key still, a surprising number of times, manages to get pretty far down field. I also think the other receivers may appreciate his blocking even more this year.

As the weapons grow here, the feeling that Player X, Y, and Z may not get as many touches as we'd like may too. But if you think back to 03, when Galloway was doing approximately what Price should this, providing a deep threat, we saw we desperately needed a tough possession rec. Witten has developed nicely this past year, but he too will look better with KJ throwing those blocks.

We shall see. But I won't be surprised to see Key meaning every bit as much as he did last year, which imo, was alot..