Jones and His Incredible Ability to Defeat Probability

[CowboysFaninHouston]

The fan base is divided on that, I for one believe he does want to win but only his way. He just is unwilling to do the right thing.

I detest the idiot as much as the next guy but I don't buy in to the he does care its ONLY money.

Just my 2p worth.

of course he wants to win. his way is money first winning second. his way means winning is not top priority above all else.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

He's a lazy GM and he's only a part time GM. No team can be successful with that.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

100%. I'm looking forward to the day when Jerry Jones is out of the picture and we get our team back. I know Stephen isn't highly regarded but at least the circus atmosphere will be gone. I'll argue Stephen doesn't enjoy the spotlight like Jerry does. Not many do.

And, despite many protestations to the contrary, we don't know what Stephen will do once Jerry is out of the picture. As you said, not many people enjoy the spotlight as much as Jerry. Especially NFL owners. I mean, quick now, who owns the Jets? Or the Bengals. Or the Seahawks? So, it's a very good chance Stephen won't want to be "front and center". And we don't know how much Jerry overrules Stephen, McClay, the head coach and so forth.

Stephen may just honoring Jerry by just nodding his head and biding his time until he can turn over the drafting, etc. to somebody else. Hard to see he'd just continue in Jerry's footprints, with the prospect of extending the near-30-year streak of no SBs/NFC championships, and be remembered as Jerry will, basically an egoist and narcissist that doesn't have a clue as to how to be really successful without Jimmy handling the reins.

But we'll see.

Eventually.

 

[Scottishcowboy]

Interesting take.
Its a shame how its worked out for us Cowboy fans.
The 3 SB wins were really nice, so maybe its worth the 29 years of wandering in the desert ?
Be curious what other here think ?

He may be defacto owner / caesar etc but in the real business world, those people still get toppled for steering the ship to the rocks with votes of no confidence and in case of caesar.....well we know how that works out for him!

Sadly NFL owners can be complete failures and its a simple "carry on folks, nothing to see here"

Sad, so sad for us fans to endure this.

 

[Scottishcowboy]

And, despite many protestations to the contrary, we don't know what Stephen will do once Jerry is out of the picture. As you said, not many people enjoy the spotlight as much as Jerry. Especially NFL owners. I mean, quick now, who owns the Jets? Or the Bengals. Or the Seahawks? So, it's a very good chance Stephen won't want to be "front and center". And we don't know how much Jerry overrules Stephen, McClay, the head coach and so forth.

Stephen may just honoring Jerry by just nodding his head and biding his time until he can turn over the drafting, etc. to somebody else. Hard to see he'd just continue in Jerry's footprints, with the prospect of extending the near-30-year streak of no SBs/NFC championships, and be remembered as Jerry will, basically an egoist and narcissist that doesn't have a clue as to how to be really successful without Jimmy handling the reins.

But we'll see.

Eventually.

Don't say that! It's the hope that kills us and now look what you've done!

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Instead, more flash, less substance

Yes. Jerry loves the flash. Add to that he wants to constantly prove he knows, and can find, talent where no other team can, or like Jaylon and Gregory, can make a success out of players that have very obvious major issues which most teams wouldn't touch with a 10-foot pole, at least until much, much later in the draft, if at all.

Sometimes it amazes me he didn't draft Tom Brady, lol...

 

[FanofJerry]

And, despite many protestations to the contrary, we don't know what Stephen will do once Jerry is out of the picture. As you said, not many people enjoy the spotlight as much as Jerry. Especially NFL owners. I mean, quick now, who owns the Jets? Or the Bengals. Or the Seahawks? So, it's a very good chance Stephen won't want to be "front and center". And we don't know how much Jerry overrules Stephen, McClay, the head coach and so forth.

Stephen may just honoring Jerry by just nodding his head and biding his time until he can turn over the drafting, etc. to somebody else. Hard to see he'd just continue in Jerry's footprints, with the prospect of extending the near-30-year streak of no SBs/NFC championships, and be remembered as Jerry will, basically an egoist and narcissist that doesn't have a clue as to how to be really successful without Jimmy handling the reins.

But we'll see.

Eventually.

This is a big take.

But assuming the Family is ALL IN on Jerry's ways for themselves because of money...I would assume Stephen took the lead and the others expect him to back it up.

Doubt Charlotte cares about winning over money.

I bet Stephen's toes are to the fire on this.

Assuming all this is real...without crazy inflation....i dont see how more than 15M a year is beneficial unless you are on some Legacy stuff and want your kids to be ABOVE EQUAL to others....at others expense.

I think Stephen and Will win one or a few early in Stephen's successorship, Stephen then shakes Will's hand...and says "go get the glory you deserve...back to business for my family"

Its not good for existence, but the most likely outcome.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Happy milestone Birthday. Hope I make it that long.

To be quite honest, you don’t seem much more than a day over 69 and a half.


Working on my bad Dad jokes. Someone has to amuse me. May as well be me.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

The saying is "you're as young as you feel".

In that case I'm about 142....

 

[mote]

The Philadelphia Eagles have been to the NFCCG in 25% of the years (8/30) under the ownership of Jeffrey Lurie since 1994. Let that sink in.

 

[FanofJerry]

The Philadelphia Eagles have been to the NFCCG in 25% of the years (8/30) under the ownership of Jeffrey Lurie since 1994. Let that sink in.

Nah...the gap between Aikman and Romo doesnt count for me.

Its on Jerry's record...but the Bears have a similar thing if I am not mistaken.

Its apples and oranges. Sure, Laurie wins. Take out those awful years like analytics takes out the one or two home run plays for players' stats to show their true average per game(think running backs making an 80 yard run)....and its not 25%

sorry bout it

 

[fivetwos]

Nah...the gap between Aikman and Romo doesnt count for me.

Its on Jerry's record...but the Bears have a similar thing if I am not mistaken.

Its apples and oranges. Sure, Laurie wins. Take out those awful years like analytics takes out the one or two home run plays for players' stats to show their true average per game(think running backs making an 80 yard run)....and its not 25%

sorry bout it

Yep. If you remove all the Eagles success the Cowboys are way better overall.

 

[Jarntt]

we can't make the AFC championship, we compete vs 15 teams.

Again. This is something that only would happen in Dallas where a GM would still be around to fail that often. None of the other NFL teams would put up with this. There are 32 NFL teams. That is 1/32. I'm not sure how else to explain it.

If you are trying to make a statistical calculation as to the odds of going 30 years without making the NFC Championship game that's a different topic than what I'm saying, but it is a lot less than 1/16 (first off remember two teams per year make the NFCCG)

 

[FanofJerry]

Again. This is something that only would happen in Dallas where a GM would still be around to fail that often. None of the other NFL teams would put up with this. There are 32 NFL teams. That is 1/32. I'm not sure how else to explain it.

If you are trying to make a statistical calculation as to the odds of going 30 years without making the NFC Championship game that's a different topic than what I'm saying, but it is a lot less than 1/16 (first off remember two teams per year make the NFCCG)

calculations only work if this is real.

you know its not...and are flexing.

its lame

 

[charron]

as long as no one is being tortured or extremely ripped off...i have no problem with this

should the league intervene? prossibly.

but he is making everyone money, so no one cares. hopefully no one is getting screwed.

League only cares about $ and that is the 1 thing Jerry does right.

 

[MikeT22]

smh

you sold out

Jerry! Jerry! Jerry?!!?

 

[loublue22]

What's the math when you've had an above average quarterback for basically the last 20 years? You have to really try to at least not fall *** backwards into a CCG for that long with a decent QB.

 

[MikeT22]

The fan base is divided on that, I for one believe he does want to win but only his way. He just is unwilling to do the right thing.

I detest the idiot as much as the next guy but I don't buy in to the he does care its ONLY money.

Just my 2p worth.

Well its not like he is wanting to lose. But he isnt concerned enough about winnng to try and do everything it takes. Thats the point.

 

[FanofJerry]

What's the math when you've had an above average quarterback for basically the last 20 years? You have to really try to at least not fall *** backwards into a CCG for that long with a decent QB.

sad, smh

hope you profited off me responding

 

[CyberB0b]

I'm not sure what the status is for quoting Bob Sturm articles here, so please just google it. I want to bring attention to some math that has been worked out in it.

It has been my contention that Jerry Jones is so inept, so contrarian because he is GMing to spite the angry fans, that he has become a statistical outlier.

According to the math, for any GM to not make at least one CCG in 30 years the probability is only 1.8%. Now I know the Jerry defender contrarians will immediately try to point out Miami, Cleveland, and any other team who has (or had like the Lions and Commodes until recently) went longer I will counter that by stating the obvious - none of those teams besides the Cowboys has had the same GM for that entire time. This is a unique Jerry distinction.

It has not been hyperbole when I have been saying that the single biggest advantage any NFL team has right now is NOT having Jerry Jones as owner/GM because he is so bad at his job that not even blind luck is applicable. There is no broken clock being right twice per day, no blind squirrel finding the nut, no flukes, no stars aligning, no lotto win, no chaos theory.

It just simply won't happen till that old jerk is no longer in control. And you see why the coaching search has been nothing but a joke so far.

The collective fan base is a better football guy by a long shot than Jerry. He's an anti-football guy and the math proves it. Had we collectively GM'd the team through fan poll votes there is a better probability that the Cowboys make at least one CCG in the 21st Century.

Pretty simple. Nearly every other GM in the league gets fired for poor results.