Jones and His Incredible Ability to Defeat Probability

[Mannix]

He’s going to pass one day and people are literally going to be happy. Imagine being disliked that much for your decisions and even more imagine not being cognizant of those sentiments…..insane

But Chuckles has the first nickel ever given to him...so you really think its gonna be any better??? First thing he will do is make Will McClay GM....you can 100% take that to the bank!!! Nothing is gonna change, because there will be no FA money spent.

 

[TheDuke]

He’s going to pass one day and people are literally going to be happy. Imagine being disliked that much for your decisions and even more imagine not being cognizant of those sentiments…..insane

100%. I'm looking forward to the day when Jerry Jones is out of the picture and we get our team back. I know Stephen isn't highly regarded but at least the circus atmosphere will be gone. I'll argue Stephen doesn't enjoy the spotlight like Jerry does. Not many do.

 

[FanofJerry]

I'm not sure what the status is for quoting Bob Sturm articles here, so please just google it. I want to bring attention to some math that has been worked out in it.

It has been my contention that Jerry Jones is so inept, so contrarian because he is GMing to spite the angry fans, that he has become a statistical outlier.

According to the math, for any GM to not make at least one CCG in 30 years the probability is only 1.8%. Now I know the Jerry defender contrarians will immediately try to point out Miami, Cleveland, and any other team who has (or had like the Lions and Commodes until recently) went longer I will counter that by stating the obvious - none of those teams besides the Cowboys has had the same GM for that entire time. This is a unique Jerry distinction.

It has not been hyperbole when I have been saying that the single biggest advantage any NFL team has right now is NOT having Jerry Jones as owner/GM because he is so bad at his job that not even blind luck is applicable. There is no broken clock being right twice per day, no blind squirrel finding the nut, no flukes, no stars aligning, no lotto win, no chaos theory.

It just simply won't happen till that old jerk is no longer in control. And you see why the coaching search has been nothing but a joke so far.

The collective fan base is a better football guy by a long shot than Jerry. He's an anti-football guy and the math proves it. Had we collectively GM'd the team through fan poll votes there is a better probability that the Cowboys make at least one CCG in the 21st Century.

Out of 1088 tries since 2000, or something along those lines, only like 9 QBs have won a Super Bowl. 9.

its about the same percentage you are highlighting. yet no one wants to pay a qb and all anyone talks about is qb

why are you so into bell curves?

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

No, it would not. There are 32 teams. This would only happen in Dallas because the owner is the GM. Follow?

we can't make the AFC championship, we compete vs 15 teams.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

To be fair, ask yourself during those 30 years, how many of those Cowboy teams had enough talent player and coaching-wise to compete for an NFC championship game.

A GM can’t control what happens on the field during the playoffs.

Is a GM responsible for TE Andrews fumbling and dropping a layup 2-pt conversion? Is a GM responsible for Crayton dropping a ball, Romo not handling a snap, the Dez no catch, etc?

 

[FanofJerry]

No one in this post wants to talk about Kellen Moore in his 3rd year here....coming out the first 4 games of the season with motion and getting our receivers 5-7 yards wide open...and then poof...it all goes away...and no one talks about it.

but its jerry.

why not talk about the 'poof' of kellen moore's play calling?

narrative? carrot dangling?

i just murdered this thread

 

[Kingofholland]

Jerry's biggest weakness in being GM, is his inability in hiring the right Coaches.
Except for Jimmy and Bill, the other hires have been underwhelming.
What is really bad, is his inability to admit failure and cut bait once its obvious that he picked the wrong guy.
Jason Garrett for 9.5 years happens on NO other NFL team.
He seems to value familiarity more than change.
That does not work in the NFL.

I 100% agree, these rosters have been talented enough to go much further but we wasted so much time with guys that Jones liked.

Obviously negelcting certain positions, and sticking his nose in day to day coaching doesn't help either.

 

[FanofJerry]

I 100% agree, these rosters have been talented enough to go much further but we wasted so much time with guys that Jones liked.

Obviously negelcting certain positions, and sticking his nose in day to day coaching doesn't help either.

still side-stepping

address my post

 

[kskboys]

I'm not sure what the status is for quoting Bob Sturm articles here, so please just google it. I want to bring attention to some math that has been worked out in it.

It has been my contention that Jerry Jones is so inept, so contrarian because he is GMing to spite the angry fans, that he has become a statistical outlier.

According to the math, for any GM to not make at least one CCG in 30 years the probability is only 1.8%. Now I know the Jerry defender contrarians will immediately try to point out Miami, Cleveland, and any other team who has (or had like the Lions and Commodes until recently) went longer I will counter that by stating the obvious - none of those teams besides the Cowboys has had the same GM for that entire time. This is a unique Jerry distinction.

It has not been hyperbole when I have been saying that the single biggest advantage any NFL team has right now is NOT having Jerry Jones as owner/GM because he is so bad at his job that not even blind luck is applicable. There is no broken clock being right twice per day, no blind squirrel finding the nut, no flukes, no stars aligning, no lotto win, no chaos theory.

It just simply won't happen till that old jerk is no longer in control. And you see why the coaching search has been nothing but a joke so far.

The collective fan base is a better football guy by a long shot than Jerry. He's an anti-football guy and the math proves it. Had we collectively GM'd the team through fan poll votes there is a better probability that the Cowboys make at least one CCG in the 21st Century.

Jerry consistently trades immediate relevancy for super bowl contention. Very few teams are able to build a contender w/o tearing it down first. Jerry refuses, which clearly shows that winning a super bowl just isn't important to him.

 

[Asklesko]

Jerry sucks

It's too bad he can't see it.

 

[kskboys]

Jerry's biggest weakness in being GM, is his inability in hiring the right Coaches.
Except for Jimmy and Bill, the other hires have been underwhelming.
What is really bad, is his inability to admit failure and cut bait once its obvious that he picked the wrong guy.
Jason Garrett for 9.5 years happens on NO other NFL team.
He seems to value familiarity more than change.
That does not work in the NFL.

If you'll add in personnel evaluation, I'll agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jerry is the worst GM I've ever witnessed at evaluating players.

 

[kskboys]

I think Jerry is obsessed with doing the opposite of what everyone thinks he should.

If 90% of the media and fans say “Ben Johnson is the no brainer HC hire” then you can rest assured that Jerry won’t even interview him.

Nobody wants anything to do with Schottenheimer as a HC, so what’s Jerry do? He seriously flirts with it.

I think he thinks that if he goes the way people think is the correct way, then he won’t be doing it “his way” because he would just be doing what everyone says he should do.

If you think someone would be a great hire for the Cowboys you would stand a better chance of getting that person hired by telling Jerry how much of a bad fit he would be than you would by telling Jerry how great they would be.

Yup. The year he traded up for MO was the deepest DT draft in a long time. Instead of just taking the obvious DT's, we trade up for a CB. It was actually blatantly obvious that Fletcher Cox was the right pick if we trade up, or Brockers/Bobby Wagner if we didn't. Instead, more flash, less substance.

 

[Kingofholland]

still side-stepping

address my post

Which post, sorry if I missed something.

 

[kskboys]

To be fair, ask yourself during those 30 years, how many of those Cowboy teams had enough talent player and coaching-wise to compete for an NFC championship game.

A GM can’t control what happens on the field during the playoffs.

Is a GM responsible for TE Andrews fumbling and dropping a layup 2-pt conversion? Is a GM responsible for Crayton dropping a ball, Romo not handling a snap, the Dez no catch, etc?

Yes he can. A GM is responsible for picking the players.

 

[FanofJerry]

winning

 

[kskboys]

winning

Is far down on the list of Jerry's goals.

 

[MikeT22]

Jerry's biggest weakness in being GM, is his inability in hiring the right Coaches.
Except for Jimmy and Bill, the other hires have been underwhelming.
What is really bad, is his inability to admit failure and cut bait once its obvious that he picked the wrong guy.
Jason Garrett for 9.5 years happens on NO other NFL team.
He seems to value familiarity more than change.
That does not work in the NFL.

Its not an inability, its that he doesnt want to. He would rather be in control and lose than risk winning with someone else getting the credit and spotlight.
The sooner he is gone from the Cowboys the better.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Each of the previous 4 years you have biased out is a positive sample. It becomes 4/34.

Jerry was a GM that didn't do the work those years too.

 

[JustChip]

He’s going to pass one day and people are literally going to be happy. Imagine being disliked that much for your decisions and even more imagine not being cognizant of those sentiments…..insane

Be prepared for his family to erect a statue of him at the stadium. They may even do it before he passes so he can see it.

 

[charron]

Jerry isn't trying to win anything and the sooner fans realize this the better off you'll be. Jerry is just a rich dude having fun while printing money year over year.