Jones Says Record Won't Be Deciding Factor For Garrett

[Coy]

Didn't he say pretty much the same thing about Wade? Sooner or later wins are going to determine if Garrett remains.

Hope that's sooner rather than later.

 

[Hostile]

It's always amusing when people plan a witch burning but the guy who has the matches won't light the fire.

Nor should he.

 

[dreghorn2]

It seems like JJ is tacitly acknowledging that he has given Garrett a poor defense this year, and doesn't expect to even go 8-8 if you ask me. So he's not going to blame Garrett when the defense fails to keep them in games.

This quote doesn't make much sense though - "In my mind, he is more of an asset after this last 8-8 season than he was before the first 8-8 season we had three years ago.” So Garrett really hasn't done much since he's been HC, but Jones likes him more now than ever.

But Garrett has taken his 'incredible organizational skills' to the defense this season, doesn't that make him somewhat responsible?

 

[Nav22]

Imagine if he said "I no longer talk about personnel or coaching situations. I am here to remove all obstacles that hinder this organization from not achieving goals" and then made like most gms and stayed out of sight

He's also the owner and president. That means it's well within his rights to answer questions regarding the coach's job security.

Luckily for us, he's not stupid enough to make some sort of grand proclamation that he can't backtrack from later. So there's nothing for you to worry about and no reason for any hand-wringing over the comments for which this thread exists. A complete non-story.

 

[RS12]

Jones Says Record Won't Be Deciding Factor For Garrett

No sale. Prediction: No playoffs=no Garrett in 2015.

 

[Coy]

Lets get some good players on the roster. It is amazing how coaches look when there is high caliber talent on the roster.

How much longer do we need to find those players? honest question, we haven't made the playoffs since 2009, how many years of mediocrity would it take for you to say "ok, maybe it's not just the players but the HC as well".

 

[Bluestang]

Think about it for just a second.

Imagine if Jerry said, "Garrett will be judged on his record this year. If we miss the playoffs, he's out."

Think about the potential fallout from such comments. Think about the season-long distraction that would become.

It would be a distraction if the HC and team let it become a distraction. You silence your critics by proving them wrong, over and over.

The fact that this team can't even handle that type of criticism is exactly why they cower on the field when Sean Lee gets punked by a WR.

They don't have any stones and it all reflects on how Jerry protects his golden boy from the media time after time.

THAT'S why Jerry said what he said. He generally knows what he's doing when he talks to the media. Evidently, some of you would have NO clue. And it's not rocket science.

Jerry doesn't convey anything coherently. He speaks in circles and it's not because he some sort of genius that has mastered the art of public speaking. For god sakes, he called Rolando McClain, Ronaldo...more than once.

 

[NJ22]

This isn't Wade, this is Jerry's hand picked, home grown yes man. Clearly if record mattered he would not be here now. I can't even make it through their press conferences anymore. Jerry is just impossible to listen too. It is painful.

 

[Nav22]

It would be a distraction if the HC and team let it become a distraction. You silence your critics by proving them wrong, over and over.

The fact that this team can't even handle that type of criticism is exactly why they cower on the field when Sean Lee gets punked by a WR.

They don't have any stones and it all reflects on how Jerry protects his golden boy from the media time after time.



Jerry doesn't convey anything coherently. He speaks in circles and it's not because he some sort of genius that has mastered the art of public speaking. For god sakes, he called Rolando McClain, Ronaldo...more than once.

Okay, let's try this: what did Jerry have to gain by administering some sort of ultimatum on Garrett?

I didn't say Jerry's coherent. He's old and was never a great public speaker to begin with. I said he generally knows what he's doing when speaking to the media, and this is no exception.

(Hence the noncommittal response and your subsequent frustration)

 

[CCBoy]

He didn't back up what he said with a contract extension for Garrett, did he? Until Garrett signs and extension, he likely needs to do pretty well to remain in place.

This seems to say that stupid is as stupid does, concerning any learning process involving Jerry Jones. That is left field stuff here.

Jerry is deathly realistic in analysis of a business direction involving any and all cash flows. He is thorough to a fault.

Through the formative decade, before Jerry pushed to become directly involved with a team in the NFL...he did his homework and talked with executives, knowledgeable GM's, owners, and talent evaluators/coaches throughout the NFL. He got his feet set before setting about to becoming a head of a business venture.

Oh, he had to take a then floundering franchise, and rebuild that along progressive and effective economic principals to meet a sporting venue. This he had sound foundations for, both within the Dallas organization and through the league as a whole.

He had full knowledge of the Murchisons, as well as the management structure of the Cowboys and into the decline of the Landry era. The whole organization had just become old...but there were principals involved with coaching and it's limitations which were pressed upon the knowledge of Jerry.

Jerry had started Jimmy Johnson off with a guaranteed 10 year contract, but Jimmy was selfish and didn't want personally convenient roles as a Head Coach, he wanted power as well. When the break up occurred, Jerry had to come to grips with motivation and espectations involved with a head coach and when he is driven by personal as opposed to organizational benefit.

That relationship was short lived, as was the transition out of a dynasty and free agency period. He observed strengths and weaknesses in the ensuing coaches coming into Dallas, including Switzer, Campo, and Gailey. He learned short term and long termed evaluations as a GM has to frame in that function.

He brought in an old school head coach in the person of Bill Parcells. But he didn't last the transition, due to his own age and wear. But it taught Jerry another lesson on having to stop in the still formative period in a team's development.

In walked, Wade Phillips, who could take what was formed under Bill Parcells, but he couldn't accomplish beyond holding onto what was already there. He soon lost a hand hold upon his own team...but Jerry learned that end of change and not having the field presence to expand growth and sustain successes. The year that should have resulted in a Lombardi, saw an upstart overtake a complete team, when the Giants went their own route to a Super Bowl.

But Jerry learned there as well...and has put all the better points into a person being fed all the points for a sustainable and developing franchise, in the person of Jason Garrett. But even having passed on knowledge, and forging ahead even further, Jerry knows that there also is an overriding element. One has to be paid for what he accomplished. That is why Jason Garrett hasn't been given a lifetime key to the kingdom...that still has to be earned. And Jerry knows that as well.

 

[Bluestang]

Okay, let's try this: what did Jerry have to gain by administering some sort of ultimatum on Garrett?

I didn't say Jerry's coherent. He's old and was never a great public speaker to begin with. I said he generally knows what he's doing when speaking to the media, and this is no exception.

(Hence the noncommittal response and your subsequent frustration)

2010 - last 8 games of the season comes to mind when everyone's job is on the line.

You either run away or face it head on when confronted. I bet JG is the latter.

 

[Bluestang]

And lets not forget that now the process has evolved into another 2-3 yr project. Where is that contract extension?

 

[CrownCowboy]

Maybe. Maybe not. You never know.

I'm pretty sure that after only one playoff win in 18 years, we pretty much know.

 

[TheDude]

He's also the owner and president. That means it's well within his rights to answer questions regarding the coach's job security.

perhaps deflect and provide NO soundbite? No one said he no right

Luckily for us, he's not stupid enough to make some sort of grand proclamation that he can't backtrack from later. So there's nothing for you to worry about and no reason for any hand-wringing over the comments for which this thread exists. A complete non-story.

Luckily
2013

http://cowboysblog.***BANNED-URL***...romo-can-handle-a-porous-offensive-line.html/

2012
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...jones-dallas-cowboys-offensive-line-is-strong

2013 "position of strength"
http://dallas.culturemap.com/news/sports/05-04-13-dallas-cowboys-jerry-jones-nfl-draft-picks/

2010
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/15/jerry-jones-and-bill-parcells-talk-it-out/


i could literally, not figuratively, fill 3 hours on this

he gets baited more than any owner or gm outside crackhead irsay

 

[CCBoy]

Oh good morning, and a fresh start...except for those without enough accumulated experience to see through the transparency of change today.

Where did these fresh plates come from for our breakfast?

 

[TheDude]

It would be a distraction if the HC and team let it become a distraction. You silence your critics by proving them wrong, over and over.

The fact that this team can't even handle that type of criticism is exactly why they cower on the field when Sean Lee gets punked by a WR.

They don't have any stones and it all reflects on how Jerry protects his golden boy from the media time after time.



Jerry doesn't convey anything coherently. He speaks in circles and it's not because he some sort of genius that has mastered the art of public speaking. For god sakes, he called Rolando McClain, Ronaldo...more than once.

Consider yourself sucked

Its all part of the "gee goolly (wink) Im just a good ol boy and you got me" His game is the biggest shill since this guy

 

[birdwells1]

It's a completely dysfunctional situation. The owner choosing coordinators. Sitting in on personnel meetings. Having an open door policy with the players. Acting as the voice and face of the team.

Until that changes, nothing will change on the field.

Yeah, you might get a season like 2007 every once in awhile but it most likely won't be sustained.

 

[jday]

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/a...-Garrett/0e292b62-ac9c-456e-9f2e-b36c70e209bb



If the HC has nothing to fear than what sort of precedent does that set for the players?

How can there be a "chain of command" so to speak if it seems to be broken from the top down?

Where is the light at the end of the tunnel here?

I'm not sure you read it correctly. Jones said he wouldn't be fired based on the win/loss ratio...nor should he be.

 

[visionary]

Think about it for just a second.

Imagine if Jerry said, "Garrett will be judged on his record this year. If we miss the playoffs, he's out."

Think about the potential fallout from such comments. Think about the season-long distraction that would become.

THAT'S why Jerry said what he said. He generally knows what he's doing when he talks to the media. Evidently, some of you would have NO clue. And it's not rocket science.

You're so smart

 

[visionary]

It seems like JJ is tacitly acknowledging that he has given Garrett a poor defense this year, and doesn't expect to even go 8-8 if you ask me. So he's not going to blame Garrett when the defense fails to keep them in games.

This quote doesn't make much sense though - "In my mind, he is more of an asset after this last 8-8 season than he was before the first 8-8 season we had three years ago.” So Garrett really hasn't done much since he's been HC, but Jones likes him more now than ever.

Makes perfect sense because in Jerry's addled mind he is training Garrett so he is more of an asset with one more years terrain ing under his belt