Jones Says Record Won't Be Deciding Factor For Garrett

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"There’s nobody that has a better feel for me than Jason, in terms of a relationship,” Jones said. “We both know where are expectations are, when it’s looking good or when it’s looking dire. I don’t expect it to be the latter.”

No, he means what he said. U mad, tho?

That's what he said.
 

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Think about it for just a second.

Imagine if Jerry said, "Garrett will be judged on his record this year. If we miss the playoffs, he's out."

Think about the potential fallout from such comments. Think about the season-long distraction that would become.

But the lack of expectations on JG haven't shrunken media attention away from the fact that we are a media joke and still labeled choke artists. "The definition of mediocrity" stemming from the lack of expectations. JG hasn't succeeded without the pressure, why would it hurt to finally put a little fire under his feet? He only has one more year and the "hands off expectations" approach hasn't resulted in wins either. He still meddles but he hasn't put much of any expectations on Garrett to this point.
 

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garrett is the real deal, if you people cannot see how this guy is building this team, you had better get glasses and a cliff note for football. you guys believe that garrett is jerry's puppet, garrett just knows how to work with jerry and in turn he gets what he wants and needs to continue to build the winning team that he is puttin together
 

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Why doesn't JJ extend Garrett if they are so conjoined inn their collaborative approach? JJ is still giving himself an out to scapegoat JG at the end of the season. This is is why it is important for fans to continue demanding a real coach in DAL. JJ has a feel for the land (or his media relations folks do) and know the base can only tolerate so much; even he knows 4 8-8's, or worse, would be a terrible sell to fans and sports media.
 

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is it any wonder why we are constantly 8 and 8? The team has no accountability in the key positions in the organization. No accountability at GM because the owner is the GM. No accountability at HC and no accountability at QB... is it any wonder now matter how many pieces we shuffle, we keep getting the same results over and over?

The defense is already the built in scapegoat this year. "Well Sean Lee was out. It takes time to learn a new scheme. We don't have enough talent on defense. We need a couple more drafts to fix that." Maybe we'll let Marinelli go if it gets too heated... Oh yeah, draft time, we'll draft this unbelievably awesome defender that will completely revitalize everything so we can begin the circus all over again.
 

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Jerry doesn't care about wins and losses as longs as the fans are entertained. That's why he is still keeping this clown around to go along with his circus.
 

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Hahaha some of you guys are hilarious. It's like you think Jones and Garrett only communicate through the media.

"Garrett feels no pressure because Jerry doesn't publicly threaten his job in his press conferences!!!!!"
 

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perhaps deflect and provide NO soundbite? No one said he no right




Luckily
2013

http://cowboysblog.***BANNED-URL***...romo-can-handle-a-porous-offensive-line.html/

2012
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...jones-dallas-cowboys-offensive-line-is-strong

2013 "position of strength"
http://dallas.culturemap.com/news/sports/05-04-13-dallas-cowboys-jerry-jones-nfl-draft-picks/

2010
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/15/jerry-jones-and-bill-parcells-talk-it-out/


i could literally, not figuratively, fill 3 hours on this

he gets baited more than any owner or gm outside crackhead irsay

Nothing in those examples even comes close to a "grand proclamation he can't backtrack from" so thank you for illustrating my point.

You were so desperate for an actual "grand proclamation" (like Dan Snyder saying he'll NEVER change his team's name, for an actual example) that you included the story of Jerry drunkenly slamming Parcells. LOL! Too bad the drunkards with the cell phone camera don't count as "media" or else you might've had something legitimate!
 

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Hahaha some of you guys are hilarious. It's like you think Jones and Garrett only communicate through the media.

"Garrett feels no pressure because Jerry doesn't publicly threaten his job in his press conferences!!!!!"

Actions speak louder than words. No accountability for the team of Garrett.
 

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Nothing in those examples even comes close to a "grand proclamation he can't backtrack from" so thank you for illustrating my point.

You were so desperate for an actual "grand proclamation" (like Dan Snyder saying he'll NEVER change his team's name, for an actual example) that you included the story of Jerry drunkenly slamming Parcells. LOL! Too bad the drunkards with the cell phone camera don't count as "media" or else you might've had something legitimate!

Yeah, no - not quite desperate, I only scrolled through the first couple of entries in good ole google.

So by your narrow example definition of "grand proclamation" - fine.

He'll never fire a coach midseason, yada.

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/news/story?id=5697592

Jones addressed Phillips' job status without prompting in the Cowboys' locker room after Sunday's penalty-plagued 24-21 loss to the Minnesota Vikings at the Metrodome. He reminded reporters that he had never fired a coach in midseason and said that Phillips would not be the first.

"I would never consider doing that during the season," Jones said.


Of course, the goal posts will be moved as Im sure grand proclamation and the use of the finite adverb NEVER are incompatible when referring to anything other than team names

Full Definition of NEVER

1
: not ever : at no time <I never met her>
2
: not in any degree : not under any condition <never the wiser for his experience>


I get your position, Jerry is the proverbial Christopher Hitchens of the NFL in oratory eloquence and concise points and the Bob Baker of press marionettes.
 

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When this team stops beating itself in games then I'll think it's pointed in the right direction.

And this lends to a lack of organization or efficient execution in practice and preperation. Being ready for any variable, or by god, even be ready to counter with our own package to exploit. Football awareness is lacking on this team and that also stems from the HC/top down. NE/SEA/SF players don't stare at each other in confusion after gaffes on the field. They are prepared and adjust mid game if need be. Modern football n junk:D

JG Offense in summary: It isn't our job to be creative, it is up to the players to execute the play called in the huddle and everything else will work itself out naturally. Why all we hear is lack of execution, over and over and over. Playcalling (O and D) need just as much tinkering as players needing to improve on their assignments. Burden is all on the players with little accountability expected from coaching
 
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Lets get some good players on the roster. It is amazing how coaches look when there is high caliber talent on the roster.

Actually it should be the other way around, a good HC should get the most out of the talent he's been given, ala Parcells in 2003, now that's coaching. Because like you say, almost everybody can win with good talent, ala Switzer in 95.
Talent is obviously important but it should not be an excuse after 3+ years with a team.
I hope this is the year where we turn it around.
 
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My exact prediction in another thread.....the "Of course it was bad, the guy led a team to a nfl record 0-16 with the 32nd ranked def in yards, Ints and points that year....Time to go to the 3-4" excuses will bubble
If they go < 6-10 and Garrett is still here, time to officially call him Jason Jones

6-10? if he MISSES THE PLAYOFFS he needs to be GONE or you're compromising what this franchise stands for.
 

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Great blog by Bob Sturm IMO, I only posted the part where he talks about Garrett.



On my way to camp in 2013, I was pretty sure that head coach Jason Garrett was under extreme pressure to produce a winning season of great substance or face the gallows. His life cycle had been nearing the point where either you show us that you are the next great architect of the Cowboys or you are replaced. He then oversaw a season that finished with the exact frustrating conclusion (lose 3 of 4 in December with a disappointing final death blow at the hands of a division rival) as 2011 and 2012 featured. Not only did this not result in his dismissal, but it almost seemed to fortify his position here. I was amazed.

There is no question that a reasonable search of this blog's archives would reveal that I have been a Jason Garrett supporter for much of his tenure. I think he is a very smart man who has plenty of ability and is certainly hamstrung with limitations his organization provides that are not his fault, nor does he have the ability to repair. And yet, a student of the NFL knows that the margins in this league are non-existent and to consider a 2013 season where games that were lost that simply should not have been lost again cost this team its prize seems to be a very problematic issue.

Over the last few weeks, I have reviewed 2013 and come to terms with the details and results. However, there are 2 games in that schedule that remain games that were "fireable offenses" as it pertains to a coach in his 4th season without a playoff berth. They were, at Detroit and home to Green Bay. I plan on reviewing the 2013 season in great detail as July and August carry on, but in short, the Detroit and Green Bay games are both won if the Head Coach simply plays the percentages and conventional thinking.

Taking a knee on 3rd Down in Detroit takes the clock to almost nothing. Instead, the Cowboys ran the ball, took a penalty, and stopped the clock - allowing for the Lions to have another chance against the horrendous secondary that the Cowboys had on the field that day against Calvin Johnson.

Meanwhile, the ability to lose a game in which you were ahead 26-3 at home against a Green Bay team that had seemed to quit and did not have Aaron Rodgers on the field would have been the end of many coaches with the dreaded phone call from the owner the next morning.
Win either of those games and your season changes. Win them both and the Philadelphia game would not have mattered as they would not have been able to catch Dallas. Instead, they lost them both and in my estimation, despite logical shared blame, the decisions made by the head coach too closely resembled the decisions that cost this team valuable games in 2011 and 2012. In short, it seemed that the Cowboys had a rookie coach making rookie coaching mistakes. The experience at the helm was not showing in the team's results.

And if he cannot be fired after that season, I honestly wonder how hot the temperature on his seat might be in 2014. Maybe not hot at all. Perhaps, he is simply blessed by having an owner that is determined for this relationship to work and will not alter his path at this stage of the game. I would have fired Garrett after the Washington loss in 2012, but perhaps Jerry will not fire Garrett even after a 2014 that disappoints. It seems to be my mistake to misread the urgency of the owner as badly as I clearly did.

Garrett is the 10th longest tenured coach in the NFL now, and nobody else in the Top 15 in coaching tenure lacks playoff wins or at least a division title. Garrett doesn't even have a playoff berth, let alone a win or a divisional title.

Is Garrett the man for this job or are the Cowboys spinning their wheels for another season of similar results? Are the issues deeper and not fixable by a coach, or are those deeper issues the reason that you must have a coach who is part of the solution and not part of the problem?
If this was my team, I would likely be introducing Mike Zimmer or someone else as my new head coach in 2014. But, I am clearly not in that position of authority.

Garrett is still the coach here, and he sits to the right of Jerry Jones as they meet the media on the tennis court in Oxnard.

We are back and so is he. For his sake and the sake of all Cowboys' fans, let's hope that experience will start to pay off.
 
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This isn't Wade, this is Jerry's hand picked, home grown yes man. Clearly if record mattered he would not be here now. I can't even make it through their press conferences anymore. Jerry is just impossible to listen too. It is painful.

Geppetto and Pinocchio...Garrett looks so emasculated at every PC. I stopped watching them too.

I think this bastage's wrinkle cream has infected his brain. Come on Jerry, do you need an intervention?

Cowboys have become a JOKE. We are at the point now where we're debating whether or not a head coach should be judged by his win/loss record. I can't imagine how stupid this sounds to outsiders.
 
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