News: Joseph Randle's leap does not impress coaches

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Kid made a mistake based on his desire to score that resulted in 6 points and people want him benched.

The coaching and playcalling was beyond atrocious and actually gave away points, but it's "in Garrett we trust."

This team is broken. Selective accountability.

He made a mistake that apparently he's been told before to stop.

I think Garrett is a mediocre coach so I am not in the "in Garrett we trust" crowd. But he was dead on right to get into Randle there. If a player ignores what you've instructed him to do, he's useless. He made a boneheaded play and apparently doesn't give a crap that it was a boneheaded play that he just got lucky on.

He's not even that good a TB to be honest where we should be concerned he might be benched. LOL. He's mediocre.
 

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I didn't like it either but it was the least of our problems. How about 12 men on the field costing us 3 points?

This team has continued to lack discipline and accountability under our HC
These problems got brushed under the rug due to the success last year despite these issues
 

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I don't want him benched for making a mistake. I want him benched for still not understanding it was a mistake.

And I don't agree that the issues were with playcalling or coaching at all. Again.

The problem is he's still probably our best back.
 

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I want to be mad at Randle but I can't.

Randle is trying to hard on every play. He is looking for cut backs instead of taking the small gains. He is leaping in the air when he doesn't see a hole to put the ball in the end zone.
I fault the coaches and this RBBC approach as well. Randle (like any one of us) reads and listens to what everyone is saying. He feels the pressure to make big plays every time he touches the ball. He is forcing it more than he should because he probably is a little insecure with his job security and wants to impress maybe too much.

Some veteran players like McFadden can be a good member of a committee. A young guy like Randle believes he should be a star and probably feels like he doesn't have time to prove it. I worry that Christine Michael fell out of favor in Seattle for the same reason. Like when he waived Marshawn Lynch off the field in philly.

Randle has talent. He may just need to be handled differently.
 

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I want to be mad at Randle but I can't.

Randle is trying to hard on every play. He is looking for cut backs instead of taking the small gains. He is leaping in the air when he doesn't see a hole to put the ball in the end zone.
I fault the coaches and this RBBC approach as well. Randle (like any one of us) reads and listens to what everyone is saying. He feels the pressure to make big plays every time he touches the ball. He is forcing it more than he should because he probably is a little insecure with his job security and wants to impress maybe too much.

Some veteran players like McFadden can be a good member of a committee. A young guy like Randle believes he should be a star and probably feels like he doesn't have time to prove it. I worry that Christine Michael fell out of favor in Seattle for the same reason. Like when he waived Marshawn Lynch off the field in philly.

Randle has talent. He may just need to be handled differently.

If the coaches have told him in the past to not dive like that and stretch out the ball like that, then you should be mad at him no matter how hard one might think he's trying.

Just because you are trying hard doesn't give you a free pass to do stupid things and things the coaches have instructed you not to do.

And as said earlier, it seemed to irk some of his teammates as well.
 

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I don't want him benched for making a mistake. I want him benched for still not understanding it was a mistake.

And I don't agree that the issues were with playcalling or coaching at all. Again.

Spotting New Orleans 3 points wasn't on the coaches? We can go back and forth all day about the defensive playcalling. Marinelli is who he is. He's not a blitz pressure kind of guy, so I guess I can't fault him. He has a propensity to rely far too much on this soft, cloud zones at the end of halves/games tho and it bit us in the *** again last night.

Like I said, that's Marinelli though and not something worth arguing about--even if I believe it was a direct link to some issues.
 

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This is on the owner/GM folks. PAY ATTENTION. Last year...after every great performance by Murray....the Owner/GM immediately reminded us about the few good runs Randle had during the game and how he could be just as productive if given the chance. Yet week after week...the COACHING staff worked Murray like a mule. I have said it 1000 times...there was a serious disconnect between the front office and the coaching staff when it came to the running game. Clearly the coaching staff wanted a workhorse....and the front office thought RBBC or anybody with 2 legs could be productive behind this OL.

I don't need to tell any real fan...that Jerry thinks he know more about football than most.

I have said this was the most mismanaged position on the team last year...Randle and Dunbar were RARELY used....and now we let Murray walk...and ask 2 guys we have never depended on....to be reliable in the last few good years of Romo career...and this is exactly what you get.

I was never for/against paying Murray....but the paid professionals in the scouting department, front office and the coaching staff have to have a WORKABLE alternative since they DECIDED to let him walk. CLERALY they have missed...and they have missed BADLY. And it will cost us all of the momentum we gained from last year

Jerry has been doing this far too long to make a blunder this bad. There are mid round pick RBs getting it done all over the NFL. Where was that kid for the Falcons drafted? He is a human bowling ball...bowling over anyone in his path. And we are stuck with a KNOWN clown in Randle. It is not like we are just realizing this guy has a brain the size of a kernel of corn!
 

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i can only think someone promised him some spiderman underoos if he did it again or something. but i can only guess this is why he didn't come back after that very much. i was MORE than peo'd that he did it but knew it was a TD. just stupid.

I could tell it broke the plane, too, but I could very easily see them letting the call on the field stand. I was actually mildly surprised that they ruled it a TD.
 

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If the coaches have told him in the past to not dive like that and stretch out the ball like that, then you should be mad at him no matter how hard one might think he's trying.

Just because you are trying hard doesn't give you a free pass to do stupid things and things the coaches have instructed you not to do.

And as said earlier, it seemed to irk some of his teammates as well.

I still cant be mad at him. Players are not robots. It was a stupid mistake. His instincts took over in that situation. I don't believe he knew when the play was called that he would go over the top and stretch out the ball.

I think he still has value to our team. He has some growing up to do for sure.
Coaches tell QB's not to force a ball into coverage also yet even Romo will make that mistake from time to time. Instincts take over. It took Romo years before he had the maturity to stop forcing passes.
 

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Kid made a mistake based on his desire to score that resulted in 6 points and people want him benched.

"Kid" is an NFL running back trying to replace the league's leading rusher on a team with championship aspirations. And "kid" was told not to do that very thing just one week before. "Kid" is a moron who has proven himself to not be up to the task.

The coaching and playcalling was beyond atrocious and actually gave away points, but it's "in Garrett we trust."

This team is broken. Selective accountability.

At least the others' mistakes weren't of the bush league variety. And they weren't indignant after the made theirs either.
 

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I don't want him benched for making a mistake. I want him benched for still not understanding it was a mistake.

And I don't agree that the issues were with playcalling or coaching at all. Again.

Exactly. Randle's 'stupid' was on clear display. First, in being careless with the ball on a touchdown opportunity, and secondly with not only being unaware of it, but unrepentant afterward.

You can't fix stupid and this guy just doesn't get it.

I don't think he's smart enough to.
 

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The loss of Callahan and Murray are making this line look mediocre, along with some of them playing poorly (Doug Free)
 

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Spotting New Orleans 3 points wasn't on the coaches? We can go back and forth all day about the defensive playcalling. Marinelli is who he is. He's not a blitz pressure kind of guy, so I guess I can't fault him. He has a propensity to rely far too much on this soft, cloud zones at the end of halves/games tho and it bit us in the *** again last night.

Like I said, that's Marinelli though and not something worth arguing about--even if I believe it was a direct link to some issues.

Yeah, the non calling a timeout with Gatchkar trying to get off the field was a mistake. Those things happen, especially when you're subbing a lot of players. The coaches aren't perfect, but they're definitely a strength of the team.
 

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I didn't like it either but it was the least of our problems. How about 12 men on the field costing us 3 points?


And it was during a punt. A punt, come on. That is just plain stupid.
 

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Joseph Randle raised the ire of the entire coaching staff with his 1-yard touchdown run in the second quarter by jumping over the top, exposing the ball. The play was initially ruled a fumble until a replay review gave Randle the touchdown.

It didn’t make the coaches feel any better. Offensive line coach Frank Pollack was the first to meet Randle before he got to the sideline. Running backs coach Gary Brown kicked the bench and had to be calmed down by Lance Dunbar and Darren McFadden.

Even after the call was overturned, head coach Jason Garrett appeared to have strong words for Randle.

In the Week 3 loss to the Atlanta Falcons, Randle had a 1-yard touchdown dive over the top in the second quarter but was told by the coaches to stop leaping. That he would do it again a week later had the coaches apoplectic.

Read more: http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowb.../joseph-randles-leap-does-not-impress-coaches

stupid is what stupid does. that's the difference between a smart player and an idiot (who steals underwear). todd gurley went down in plan with a minute to play instead of running out of bounce....randle sticks the ball up like its a piece of candy
 

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The guy is a clown who just does not get it.. he thinks everything is a joke. Watch his post game interviews, he clowns on the media and just repeats the same things to entertain himself. How many carries did he get after that because it looked like he was pretty much benched to me with McFadden getting multiple series in a row. I would seriously not be surprised if he was not starting next week. I would say he could play Dunbar's role, but I don't trust the guy to do anything consistently.
 
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