Josh Allen is exactly what the Cowboys hope Dak will become

[USArmyVet]

what makes Josh Allen so great is his running ability. Much better than Dak in that regard.

So a direct question: as it stands today, who would you choose as your franchise QB....Dak or Allen?

 

[PAPPYDOG]

exactly. and he is not elite. so what? can we win with Dak or not? or do we go QB fishing in the draft? remember, for every Allen, there was 3 other QBs that failed and not even with their original team. and should we not try? we should. the goal is to win. and is it easier to got QB fishing or build a team around Dak.

Do you mean RE-BUILD as the first team we put around him he simply wasted it away....while filling his pockets with riches!

 

[America's Cowboy]

These Josh Allen lovers ought to man up and simply go follow the Bills. Problem solved.

 

[USArmyVet]

Did you see the trash Allen faced last year? He got the Dolphins twice and the Panthers….

The Bills strength of schedule for 2021 was .478

The Cowboys strength of schedule for 2021 was .452 (2nd easiest behind only the Eagles)

So I guess you should be looking at Dak more since he had an easier schedule?

 

[starfan1]

We don’t have Allen, Mahomes, Rodgers or anyone else. We have Dak so if you want to have those QBs I’m sure there is room on their fan page

he’s good enough to win if the other pieces do their job.

 

[USArmyVet]

We don’t have Allen, Mahomes, Rodgers or anyone else. We have Dak so if you want to have those QBs I’m sure there is room on their fan page

he’s good enough to win if the other pieces do their job.

...and what if the other pieces have been doing their job?

 

[PAPPYDOG]

We don’t have Allen, Mahomes, Rodgers or anyone else. We have Dak so if you want to have those QBs I’m sure there is room on their fan page

he’s good enough to win if the other pieces do their job.

Correct as he's a "Need to be carried QB" who we gave 20% of our cap.

 

[starfan1]

...and what if the other pieces have been doing their job?

They haven’t

 

[starfan1]

Correct as he's a "Need to be carried QB" who we gave 20% of our cap.

Sometimes and sometimes not . He’s good enough all your whining don’t change the cap issue. Jerry did it as well as the cap waste in the RB. Did same thing with previous QB
It’s game day how bout taking a day off from the constant whining

 

[CowboyRoy]

So a direct question: as it stands today, who would you choose as your franchise QB....Dak or Allen?

Its a dumb question. Allen.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Sometimes and sometimes not . He’s good enough all your whining don’t change the cap issue. Jerry did it as well as the cap waste in the RB. Did same thing with previous QB
It’s game day how bout taking a day off from the constant whining

All I did was confirm your post and you respond with sarcasm and frustration.
Jeez, you Dak lovers are a sensitive bunch.......

P.S. No misunderstanding from me on this one as trying to sell garbage for roses daily here must be very frustrating!!!

 

[starfan1]

All I did was confirm your post and you respond with sarcasm and frustration.
Jeez, you Dak lovers are a sensitive bunch.......

P.S. No misunderstanding from me on this one as trying to sell garbage for roses daily here must be very frustrating!!!

Na all you did was whine it caps it’s what you trolls do on a consistent basis

frustration? You must have me confused cause I personally don’t invest that much into Jerry world

I just don’t see the benefit of the constant moaning in every thread you can. I don’t care if Dakota is replaced next week I just know the reality of the situation
So pull your panties up Pappy dog it’s game day

 

[stuckindc]

Josh Allen was drafted 7th in the 2018 draft; Buffalo traded up from #12 (with TB) to select him; Dallas drafted #19 that season (LVE)

Patrick Mahomes was drafted 10th in the 2017 draft; KC traded up from #27 (with Buffalo) to select him; Dallas drafted #28 that season (Taco Charlton)

Aaron Rodgers was drafted 24th in the 2005 draft; Dallas drafted #11 that season (DeMarcus Ware)


So teams trade up when they see a QB they want and in the above 3 cases, 2 of the 3 teams traded up and as a result all 3 teams got QB's that took them to a Championship game or the Super Bowl.

Looking back at the Super Bowl winning QB's since the year 2000, here is a breakdown of what round the winning QB was drafted in (repeat winners such as Tom Brady count multiple times in the respective round selected):

1st round drafted: 11 (Dilfer, Roethlisberger, P. Manning, E. Manning, Rodgers, Flacco, Mahomes, Stafford)
2nd round drafted: 1 (Brees)
3rd round drafted: 2 (Wilson, Foles)
6th round drafted: 7 (Brady)
9th round drafted: 1 (Johnson)

So, of the last 22 Super Bowl winning QB's, 11 times (50%) have been by 1st round drafted QB's and 14 times (64%) by QB's selected in the first 3 rounds(Brady of course being the outlier with 7 victories as a 6th round draft pick).

While of course the likes of Brady and Johnson show it can be done, the fact of the matter is the odds of winning a Super Bowl with a QB not selected early dramatically lessens.

We had two number 1’s that year. We could have had Ware and Rodgers. Instead we took Speara

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Do you mean RE-BUILD as the first team we put around him he simply wasted it away....while filling his pockets with riches!

oh, there you go with the money thing again...Jealous?

why do you worry about the money he is making. that's the only thing you mention all the time.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Na all you did was whine it caps it’s what you trolls do on a consistent basis

frustration? You must have me confused cause I personally don’t invest that much into Jerry world

I just don’t see the benefit of the constant moaning in every thread you can. I don’t care if Dakota is replaced next week I just know the reality of the situation
So pull your panties up Pappy dog it’s game day

If anyone is wearing panties gotta be you, who has a massive man crush on Dak!

 

[starfan1]

If anyone is wearing panties gotta be you, who has a massive man crush on Dak!

Na I’m not the one all over the board whining bout the qb of his favorite team. You are the epitome of panty wearing fan
And Dak is about 4th or 5 on my list of players I’m a fan of in this team
You got me confused but your a big Romo guy you’ve been confused for years

now can we move on it’s game day?

 

[Flamma]

...and what if the other pieces have been doing their job?

As you may be aware, I am pretty critical of Dak. It's not about the other pieces doing their job, like someone else mentioned, it's about who those other pieces are. If a QB like Garoppolo can get to a SB and NFC championship game, the 49ers are doing something right. I think Dak is better than Jimmy, I just don't think the pieces around him are. Those pieces mean a lot when it comes to these type QBs.

 

[Silverz1972]

Not if they don’t let him run.

 

[TheSport78]

You guys wanted Romo to become Peyton Manning at 31…..

Who's "you guys?" Plus, you saw growth in Romo; you could argue his 2014 season was his best. Dak has done nothing but be mediocre his entire career and beat up on bad teams.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

Sometimes and sometimes not . He’s good enough all your whining don’t change the cap issue. Jerry did it as well as the cap waste in the RB. Did same thing with previous QB
It’s game day how bout taking a day off from the constant whining

He is good enough when playing against the worst teams in the league. Against half way decent competition the man disappears faster than hot dogs in front of Joey Chestnut.