Josh Allen is exactly what the Cowboys hope Dak will become

[CowboyRoy]

It’s two different conversations we’re having now. Him losing those lineman and yet still making the SB is not good enough, but staying with Dak and hoping for a long-lost NFCCG one day is the better argument?

No QB guarantees you anything, but the opportunity for contention Mahomes presents is profound.

Nope….not with daks oline and daks coaching.

and where you getting the next mahomes? Lol

your delusional.

 

[Floatyworm]

I do not believe that the Bills have better weapons than what Dak has had in the past but Allen has elevated the talent with his play. While in Dallas, I do believe we overrate our talent, I believe Amari Cooper, Lamb, Gallup, Schultz, Zeke are much better weapons than what Allen is working with.

It's simple: If you want to get paid the big boy bucks, you have to play like a big boy.

Dak literally has half the arm strength....and maybe 1/3 of the awareness. I would seriously trade 1/2 this team away if Buffalo would do the deal...and I'm being serious.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Nope….not with daks oline and daks coaching.

and where you getting the next mahomes? Lol

your delusional.

yours too

To elevate talent at essential positions will compensate for the lack of talent at others. Dallas has some Oline deficiencies, but they’re not voids. QBs don’t do it all by themselves, but they sure can make up for a lot.

Where did KC get Mahomes? Where did Buffalo get Allen? Where did GB get Rodgers? You get your QB from the top of the draft, as most everyone else has. Dallas misses on all the picks they don’t take.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Dak literally has half the arm strength....and maybe 1/3 of the awareness. I would seriously trade 1/2 this team away if Buffalo would do the deal...and I'm being serious.

When you have a QB with Allen's talents building an SB contender is much easier.
Therefore till further notice, we are pretty much doomed!!
Just remember the Chiefs without Mahomes.....Smith was taking them nowhere!!

 

[NotForLong]

I do not believe that the Bills have better weapons than what Dak has had in the past but Allen has elevated the talent with his play. While in Dallas, I do believe we overrate our talent, I believe Amari Cooper, Lamb, Gallup, Schultz, Zeke are much better weapons than what Allen is working with.

It's simple: If you want to get paid the big boy bucks, you have to play like a big boy.

Either you got it or you don't. . . what's so complicated

 

[HowardC]

They want a QB in year 7 to become what another QB is in year 5…


How about find a QB with more upside instead of wasting time with one that peaked as a rookie

Oh snap! You went hard with them facts.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

It's about relevance not trophies. Learn to appreciate it.

Say it over and over with me: Mediocrity plus marketing sells, lol.

That is what matters.

Mediocrity is soothing. It is comforting. It insulates us from expectations. We are your friends. Drink deep. You will believe a team can fly...

 

[USArmyVet]

yours too

To elevate talent at essential positions will compensate for the lack of talent at others. Dallas has some Oline deficiencies, but they’re not voids. QBs don’t do it all by themselves, but they sure can make up for a lot.

Where did KC get Mahomes? Where did Buffalo get Allen? Where did GB get Rodgers? You get your QB from the top of the draft, as most everyone else has. Dallas misses on all the picks they don’t take.

Josh Allen was drafted 7th in the 2018 draft; Buffalo traded up from #12 (with TB) to select him; Dallas drafted #19 that season (LVE)

Patrick Mahomes was drafted 10th in the 2017 draft; KC traded up from #27 (with Buffalo) to select him; Dallas drafted #28 that season (Taco Charlton)

Aaron Rodgers was drafted 24th in the 2005 draft; Dallas drafted #11 that season (DeMarcus Ware)


So teams trade up when they see a QB they want and in the above 3 cases, 2 of the 3 teams traded up and as a result all 3 teams got QB's that took them to a Championship game or the Super Bowl.

Looking back at the Super Bowl winning QB's since the year 2000, here is a breakdown of what round the winning QB was drafted in (repeat winners such as Tom Brady count multiple times in the respective round selected):

1st round drafted: 11 (Dilfer, Roethlisberger, P. Manning, E. Manning, Rodgers, Flacco, Mahomes, Stafford)
2nd round drafted: 1 (Brees)
3rd round drafted: 2 (Wilson, Foles)
6th round drafted: 7 (Brady)
9th round drafted: 1 (Johnson)

So, of the last 22 Super Bowl winning QB's, 11 times (50%) have been by 1st round drafted QB's and 14 times (64%) by QB's selected in the first 3 rounds(Brady of course being the outlier with 7 victories as a 6th round draft pick).

While of course the likes of Brady and Johnson show it can be done, the fact of the matter is the odds of winning a Super Bowl with a QB not selected early dramatically lessens.

 

[Asklesko]

Yes, its true, but hey, we like our me-D-akrity.

 

[HowardC]

Dak leadership > Allen leadership

You forgot to use sarcasm font...

 

[USArmyVet]

Dak leadership > Allen leadership

"The task of the leader is to get his people from where they are to where they have not been." Henry Kissinger


The last time each QB's respective franchise had gone to a Conference Championship:

Dallas Cowboys 1996

Buffalo Bills 1993

Since being drafted (Dak in 2016 and Allen in 2018), the next time their respective team went to a Conference Championship:

Dallas Cowboys None

Buffalo Bills 2020

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Josh Allen was drafted 7th in the 2018 draft; Buffalo traded up from #12 (with TB) to select him; Dallas drafted #19 that season (LVE)

Patrick Mahomes was drafted 10th in the 2017 draft; KC traded up from #27 (with Buffalo) to select him; Dallas drafted #28 that season (Taco Charlton)

Aaron Rodgers was drafted 24th in the 2005 draft; Dallas drafted #11 that season (DeMarcus Ware)


So teams trade up when they see a QB they want and in the above 3 cases, 2 of the 3 teams traded up and as a result all 3 teams got QB's that took them to a Championship game or the Super Bowl.

Looking back at the Super Bowl winning QB's since the year 2000, here is a breakdown of what round the winning QB was drafted in (repeat winners such as Tom Brady count multiple times in the respective round selected):

1st round drafted: 11 (Dilfer, Roethlisberger, P. Manning, E. Manning, Rodgers, Flacco, Mahomes, Stafford)
2nd round drafted: 1 (Brees)
3rd round drafted: 2 (Wilson, Foles)
6th round drafted: 7 (Brady)
9th round drafted: 1 (Johnson)

So, of the last 22 Super Bowl winning QB's, 11 times (50%) have been by 1st round drafted QB's and 14 times (64%) by QB's selected in the first 3 rounds(Brady of course being the outlier with 7 victories as a 6th round draft pick).

While of course the likes of Brady and Johnson show it can be done, the fact of the matter is the odds of winning a Super Bowl with a QB not selected early dramatically lessens.

If you go back even further it’s more of the same. Even in a less pass-heavy league, Elway was first overall. Favre was a first rounder. Young was first overall. Aikman was first overall.

But to your point, Dallas did draft late in those drafts. where would Dallas have drafted if you hadn’t hitched your wagon to Romo; to Dak? Or a better question, where will Dallas draft if you traded Dak to a repugnant team? Seattle may give you the 4th overall pick, Houston the 2nd. Does Houston have the talent not to also give you a top 10 pick in 2024?

Additionally, Houston moved up for Watson. Chicago moved up for Trubisky. Chicago moved up for Fields. Eagles moved up for Wentz. Niners moved up for Lance. LA moved up for Goff. KC moved up for Mahomes. NYG moved up for Eli. Whether it succeeds or fails, teams are constantly trying to hit that pay dirt despite not having an ideal draft position to do so. You always have options.

 

[Whyjerry]

Won’t happen until the Jones family is gone.

 

[LittleD]

Won’t happen until the Jones family is gone.

Then sit back in your easy chair and fixate on the Comancheros. Either that or drink some of that Philthy lemonaide.

 

[LittleD]

Dak doesn't have the strong arm like Allen, nor is he as punishing a runner, but he could help this offense immensely if he would go back to using his legs.

He's got a surgically repaired ankle which will never hold up to his running like his first two years. Dak is now a marginal QB who can't seem to think his way out of trouble. Dak got paid like an all world QB but, just another miscalculation by Jerry and Stephen. 10 more years of mediocrity.

 

[JBond]

I do not believe that the Bills have better weapons than what Dak has had in the past but Allen has elevated the talent with his play. While in Dallas, I do believe we overrate our talent, I believe Amari Cooper, Lamb, Gallup, Schultz, Zeke are much better weapons than what Allen is working with.

It's simple: If you want to get paid the big boy bucks, you have to play like a big boy.

Dak will never reach Allen levels. Like Dak. Not Allen or Mahomes

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I do not believe that the Bills have better weapons than what Dak has had in the past but Allen has elevated the talent with his play. While in Dallas, I do believe we overrate our talent, I believe Amari Cooper, Lamb, Gallup, Schultz, Zeke are much better weapons than what Allen is working with.

It's simple: If you want to get paid the big boy bucks, you have to play like a big boy.

Allen is an Elite QB, top 10 drafted. of the 4 in the top of that Draft he is the only one that worked out.

and I believe every team wants their QB to be Josh Allen, lets not forget Allen struggled his first couple of years before it clicked for him.

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

They want a QB in year 7 to become what another QB is in year 5…


How about find a QB with more upside instead of wasting time with one that peaked as a rookie

Peaked as a rookie?

Dak threw for an average of 232 yards a game his rookie season? Is that what you call a peak?

 

[MWH1967]

That's a little unfair. let Dak be his best Dak.

 

[Dallasfann]

I don't hate Dak..not his biggest fan either but boy...if the Cowboys hope Dak becomes Josh Allen then I hope my bank account has 6 more 0's in it this morning......

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DAMN!