Josh Gordon is likely on his way out

[Risen Star]

Yes. I don't understand what people don't get. Any opportunity you have to take a low risk high reward move in the NFL...or in life...you...should.

Instead people are happy to label people they have never met as thugs and losers and poison and cancers. I always find that behavior a bit disgusting. But that's just me.

I don't care what they say, they'd all be excited if this went down.

Imagine Romo, Peterson, Dez and Gordon. Are you kidding me?

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I don't care what they say, they'd all be excited if this went down.

Imagine Romo, Peterson, Dez and Gordon. Are you kidding me?

With our offensive line?

Greatest show on turf.

 

[joseephuss]

Yes they are the same. Young talented players who you can acquire at a discount.

In fact...we made a larger investment in Dez coming out of school than we'd have to make in any hypothetical Gordon acquisition.

No, they are not the same. When has Dez Bryant missed a NFL game due to a suspension?

Yes. I don't understand what people don't get. Any opportunity you have to take a low risk high reward move in the NFL...or in life...you...should.

Instead people are happy to label people they have never met as thugs and losers and poison and cancers. I always find that behavior a bit disgusting. But that's just me.

The only label I give him is unreliable. When someone is unreliable, then they are not a low risk.

All of these same arguments were made last season for Dallas to go out and try to acquire him. What did he do? He went out and got suspended for the season. He then also got a DUI. There is nothing low risk about this guy and there will be no reward when he is missing games over and over and over.

 

[Plankton]

The only "thing" I have for Gordon is that he's a talented and young player. Those are the type of assets you acquire on the cheap and hope you can work with. In this case he is exactly like Dez and Ro for that matter.

No, he's not exactly like Dez.

Dez Bryant, for all of his troubles, has never been suspended by the NFL. He also hasn't entered the NFL substance abuse program, as far as we know, and hasn't blown off a practice the day prior to a game. Bryant also didn't get nailed for a DUI while awaiting a ruling from the league on another substance abuse related offense. Josh Gordon did all of these things.

For a player who, according to Cris Carter, has failed to complete his 28 day substance abuse program, and is one strike away from permanent banishment from the league, I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole. Dependability and accountability means something to me.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

No, he's not exactly like Dez.

Dez Bryant, for all of his troubles, has never been suspended by the NFL. He also hasn't entered the NFL substance abuse program, as far as we know, and hasn't blown off a practice the day prior to a game. Bryant also didn't get nailed for a DUI while awaiting a ruling from the league on another substance abuse related offense. Josh Gordon did all of these things.

For a player who, according to Cris Carter, has failed to complete his 28 day substance abuse program, and is one strike away from permanent banishment from the league, I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole. Dependability and accountability means something to me.

Say what you will about Jerry but he surrounded Dez day 1. Whose to say where Dez would be if he hadn't?

Whose to say that Jerry....the greatest salesman in the league....couldn't have done the same for Gordon? Or couldn't for that matter.

Stop looking at this from such a narrow and naive point of view.

 

[Plankton]

Say what you will about Jerry but he surrounded Dez day 1. Whose to say where Dez would be if he hadn't?

Whose to say that Jerry....the greatest salesman in the league....couldn't have done the same for Gordon? Or couldn't for that matter.

Stop looking at this from such a narrow and naive point of view.

Naive? How very arrogant and presumptuous of you.

It's not a narrow perspective at all. It's a team dynamic issue. Apparently, the players in Cleveland are fed up with Gordon over his lack of reliability. The Browns went 1-4 after he was activated, and the one game they won was due to Mike Smith not mastering the art of clock management after seven seasons as a head coach. The guy couldn't even show up for a practice the day before the final game of the season, and this is when he's one season from free agency, and coming off of a suspension. Does this sound like a guy who can be converted by Jerry Jones?

And, keep in mind, Jones did the same thing that was done for Dez Bryant with Pacman Jones, and that was a complete train wreck. Or, did you forget about that one?

 

[RS12]

As a FA, I wouldn't be opposed as you arent depending on him. Our offense without him is very good. With him it would unstoppable.

He is a guy if you add you do so knowing he is one foot out the door and do so accordingly

Could not have said it better.

 

[waving monkey]

per Rotoworld...

Just a hypothetical, if we re-signed Dez, lost Murray to FA, signed Adrian Peterson to a team friendly contract, and worked a deal to get Josh Gordon, just think about how terrifying that lineup would look.

Remember this is a hypothetical and I'm only looking at talent so save the child abuse jokes.

You'd have to account for 2 STUDS at WR. Along with AP behind the best O-line in the league.

Our draft would be heavy on the defensive side and we'd have a healthy Lee, McClain, and Spencer returning, and Lawrence would have a year of experience under his belt.

Go ahead and roast away but don't tell me the thought of that isn't exciting!

No to both

Even if we were spending on FA it should be on the defense

 

[Frozen700]

per Rotoworld...

Just a hypothetical, if we re-signed Dez, lost Murray to FA, signed Adrian Peterson to a team friendly contract, and worked a deal to get Josh Gordon, just think about how terrifying that lineup would look.

Remember this is a hypothetical and I'm only looking at talent so save the child abuse jokes.

You'd have to account for 2 STUDS at WR. Along with AP behind the best O-line in the league.

Our draft would be heavy on the defensive side and we'd have a healthy Lee, McClain, and Spencer returning, and Lawrence would have a year of experience under his belt.

Go ahead and roast away but don't tell me the thought of that isn't exciting!

We need a new Upgrade to T.Will and Gordon would be cheap.

Dez, Gordon, and Beasley working the slot. Killer!

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Naive? How very arrogant and presumptuous of you.

It's not a narrow perspective at all. It's a team dynamic issue. Apparently, the players in Cleveland are fed up with Gordon over his lack of reliability. The Browns went 1-4 after he was activated, and the one game they won was due to Mike Smith not mastering the art of clock management after seven seasons as a head coach. The guy couldn't even show up for a practice the day before the final game of the season, and this is when he's one season from free agency, and coming off of a suspension. Does this sound like a guy who can be converted by Jerry Jones?

And, keep in mind, Jones did the same thing that was done for Dez Bryant with Pacman Jones, and that was a complete train wreck. Or, did you forget about that one?

LOL at blaming 1-4 on Gordon. That's literally hilarious.

And no I didn't forget about Adam Jones. These are calculated risks. And just like Pacman didn't work out for Dallas. He worked out for the Bengals.

And Pacman isn't nearly as talented as Gordon. And he got 3 chances...with 3 teams. But you're not willing to give Gordon another chance? With his 2nd team? And he has the type of All Pro talent Pacman could only dream about?

How naive of you.

 

[ConstantReboot]

You homer you

BTW between josh Brent, AP, josh Gordon and Greg hardy we could have quite the Murderers row next year

North Dallas 40 Part II.

 

[Plankton]

LOL at blaming 1-4 on Gordon. That's literally hilarious.

And no I didn't forget about Adam Jones. These are calculated risks. And just like Pacman didn't work out for Dallas. He worked out for the Bengals.

And Pacman isn't nearly as talented as Gordon. And he got 3 chances...with 3 teams. But you're not willing to give Gordon another chance? With his 2nd team? And he has the type of All Pro talent Pacman could only dream about?

How naive of you.

Nope. Not with the Cowboys. If someone else wants the headache, complete lack of reliability and risk, be my guest.

It's funny. You know that someone doesn't have a point to make when they have to call another poster names. Post after post with you, that's what you do to others. It is possible for others to have an opposing point of view to yours without them being "naive", which is a curious word to use when making a personnel decision. Naive would be assuming that he would clean himself up upon arrival in Dallas when he has demonstrated no aptitude for doing so at Baylor, Utah or Cleveland.

You call it a calculated risk. I call it a waste of time that carries the real risk of damaging the team dynamic. Because, as many have said, past performance or behavior is the best predictor of future performance or behavior. If you are OK with bringing on a guy with Gordon's issues, that's your prerogative. I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole.

 

[joseephuss]

LOL at blaming 1-4 on Gordon. That's literally hilarious.

And no I didn't forget about Adam Jones. These are calculated risks. And just like Pacman didn't work out for Dallas. He worked out for the Bengals.

And Pacman isn't nearly as talented as Gordon. And he got 3 chances...with 3 teams. But you're not willing to give Gordon another chance? With his 2nd team? And he has the type of All Pro talent Pacman could only dream about?

How naive of you.

Gordon is on his 3rd team. He got multiple chances at Baylor and blew them. He got another chance at Utah and did nothing with it. He has now had a few chances in Cleveland and fails each time. A change of scenery isn't going to accomplish anything. It is going to require a change in the man and that isn't going to happen.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

if we can afford it. do it.

i want rings.

hardy, ap, gordon, suh...dont care. gimme rings.

 

[Redball Express]

per Rotoworld...

Just a hypothetical, if we re-signed Dez, lost Murray to FA, signed Adrian Peterson to a team friendly contract, and worked a deal to get Josh Gordon, just think about how terrifying that lineup would look.

Remember this is a hypothetical and I'm only looking at talent so save the child abuse jokes.

You'd have to account for 2 STUDS at WR. Along with AP behind the best O-line in the league.

Our draft would be heavy on the defensive side and we'd have a healthy Lee, McClain, and Spencer returning, and Lawrence would have a year of experience under his belt.

Go ahead and roast away but don't tell me the thought of that isn't exciting!

My God dude..

we are just coming out of cap hell and you want us to take in a bunch of cap busters to make us better than we already are?

Fantasy League has made you insane, dude.

And no way do we trade out Murray for an aging demoralized Peterson.

No way.

Jerrah the GM and Jerrah the owner and Stephen the owners son would all have to agree to your dream.

Ain't going to happen.

Do you recall how many #1and #2 draft picks have been wasted on RBs?

Murray is the greatest back since Emmitt Smith..

and he's young still and has greatness written all over him.

 

[egn22]

My God dude..

we are just coming out of cap hell and you want us to take in a bunch of cap busters to make us better than we already are?

Fantasy League has made you insane, dude.

And no way do we trade out Murray for an aging demoralized Peterson.

No way.

Jerrah the GM and Jerrah the owner and Stephen the owners son would all have to agree to your dream.

Ain't going to happen.

Do you recall how many #1and #2 draft picks have been wasted on RBs?

Murray is the greatest back since Emmitt Smith..

and he's young still and has greatness written all over him.

Cap hell? Who said anything about giving Gordon a big payday?

And I love Murray too, but you gotta understand his stock is at an all time high and he will most likely leave Dallas for a team that is willing to pay him what he's worth.

Unfortunately w Dez still needing to be worked out I don't see us offering Muray top dollar.

Did you miss where I mentioned the possibility of AP coming here on a cap friendly deal? What does any of this have to do w fantasy?

 

[Doomsday101]

per Rotoworld...

Just a hypothetical, if we re-signed Dez, lost Murray to FA, signed Adrian Peterson to a team friendly contract, and worked a deal to get Josh Gordon, just think about how terrifying that lineup would look.

Remember this is a hypothetical and I'm only looking at talent so save the child abuse jokes.

You'd have to account for 2 STUDS at WR. Along with AP behind the best O-line in the league.

Our draft would be heavy on the defensive side and we'd have a healthy Lee, McClain, and Spencer returning, and Lawrence would have a year of experience under his belt.

Go ahead and roast away but don't tell me the thought of that isn't exciting!

Peterson is not coming, Zimmer wants him in Minn and even if he does not stay he is not looking at giving anyone a discount based on comments from the other day.

 

[xwalker]

No, he's not exactly like Dez.

Dez Bryant, for all of his troubles, has never been suspended by the NFL. He also hasn't entered the NFL substance abuse program, as far as we know, and hasn't blown off a practice the day prior to a game. Bryant also didn't get nailed for a DUI while awaiting a ruling from the league on another substance abuse related offense. Josh Gordon did all of these things.

For a player who, according to Cris Carter, has failed to complete his 28 day substance abuse program, and is one strike away from permanent banishment from the league, I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole. Dependability and accountability means something to me.

Jerry has said in the past that he can work with players that have problems but he is least tolerant of substance abuse issues.

 

[Doomsday101]

I don't care what they say, they'd all be excited if this went down.

Imagine Romo, Peterson, Dez and Gordon. Are you kidding me?

I would pull for any player in a Cowboys uniform to do well and to help the team. Does not mean I would care for that player, felt the same with TO and pacman Jones great talent but a headcases who can hurt a team

 

[JoeBoBBY]

Its cool to think about. It really is. Putting those guys along with our guys and creating dream team offense.

But those teams rarely do anything? have you noticed that?

No, its the teams that draft well and develop guys who arent "superstars with gobs of talent" that win.... there are a few exceptions.... i can think of Patriots getting Moss to play with Brady.....that worked out!